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Do Animals Have Fun ? ?
AlbertLum
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do they get sad ? can they have feelings of pride ? do they feel pain ? do they enjoy themselves and seek out things that make themselves feel happy ?
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do they get sad ? can they have feelings of pride ? do they feel pain ? do they enjoy themselves and seek out things that make themselves feel happy ?
Makes me wonder if you've ever had a dog.lol Any dog I ever had displayed happiness, sadness, pouted, etc., seemingly capable of having all the emotions we do.
can imagine - especially when we are not around
and watching!
... every once in a while one slips up and we get a
peek into the more intimate aspects of their day
to day lives.[:D]
I think(?) that animals have a lot more fun than we
can imagine - especially when we are not around
and watching!
... every once in a while one slips up and we get a
peek into the more intimate aspects of their day
to day lives.[:D]
that dog is saying....not tonight "deer"
I would say most animals have fun...especially the young ones
And that is, without a doubt, the biggest, most absurd line of crap I have ever read...
They get mad too. My last dog that I had left at my parents when I went to school would try to ignore me when I came home, out of spite. A couple of times he even would even go in my bedroom when I came home, and pee on my pillow. I loved that dog more than I can ever express. He would give me lectures that included growling and yodeling when we made up. It was really quite funny. After we made up, he wouldn't leave my side while I was home. Damn...just past the 5 year date since his death. There will never be another Mowgli. He's the one dog that I'm sure will be waiting on me when I die. I bet he'll pee on my heavenly pillow when I show up.
Ben
Of course they do.
do they get sad ? can they have feelings of pride ? do they feel pain ? do they enjoy themselves and seek out things that make themselves feel happy ?
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Yes to all of these things.
You've never had a (mammal) pet, have you?
That said, I flat out love dogs. I currently have my first German Shorthair, and have owned many many hunting dogs. I am apesheet about dogs, but I don't suppose they have ANY human characteristics.
Fire away!
if an animal gets sad, what do they get sad about ? if they feel pride, what are the proud about ?
most of you have answered yes but basically provide no proof of how you KNOW they experience all of those things. the question about pride is an interesting one because every skrink will tell you that with human beings pride is a feeling and thought that is gleened from certain social norms or standards of acheivement. does an animals strive to acheive things and take pride in them ? based on the answers you guys gave i think animals would then be on par with humans and thus deserves the same rights and protections as humans.
if an animal gets sad, what do they get sad about ? if they feel pride, what are the proud about ?
Well, I dont know about pride, but animals sure do exhibit a sense of ego, and also embarrassment when they do something stupid. Like when a cat misses a jump and tumbles onto the floor - you can see as they pick themselves up that they kind of skulk away and pretend it didn't just happen. Its hilarious really.
people people listen to me. We chose to domesticate dogs 3 trillion years ago for thier benefit in hunting and protection. Then we started recognizing traits in them that we like have around. They SEEM to be happy when we come in, they SEEM to smile and act glad. This is exactly the same behavior that wild dogs exhibit in packs. We TRANSFER all these emotions onto dogs to support the man's best friend thing.
That said, I flat out love dogs. I currently have my first German Shorthair, and have owned many many hunting dogs. I am apesheet about dogs, but I don't suppose they have ANY human characteristics.
Fire away!
In that case, maybe humans' emotions aren't real either, but just a natural evolutionary response to our environment that helps us to live longer.
Ben
people people listen to me. We chose to domesticate dogs 3 trillion years ago for thier benefit in hunting and protection. Then we started recognizing traits in them that we like have around. They SEEM to be happy when we come in, they SEEM to smile and act glad. This is exactly the same behavior that wild dogs exhibit in packs. We TRANSFER all these emotions onto dogs to support the man's best friend thing.
That said, I flat out love dogs. I currently have my first German Shorthair, and have owned many many hunting dogs. I am apesheet about dogs, but I don't suppose they have ANY human characteristics.
Fire away!
Why are you assuming that the characteristics have to only be a function of being human? I don't know about pride, but I would think that most of the rest of the list Ben provided could be demonstrated just by watching dogs interact. Pain would be obvious and would not even be in question. I really don't care if it is with a pack or with other mammals, they do show enjoyment and will look for the opportunity to have it. My Golden will even play with the cats (so many ways to go with that one) if no one else will play with him at the moment. The whimpering sound made when certain family members depart would certainly be some form of a demonstraion of sadness, or at least a sense of loss.
Jeff
Of course, she's a French Brittainy...
All scientologists are not clear, only those without brains, which is, I admit, most of them. I offer Tom Cruise as evidence.
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if animals do and feel all of the things that were just mentioned, then wouldnt it be immoral to kill them ?
Isn't it?
if animals do and feel all of the things that were just mentioned, then wouldnt it be immoral to kill them ?
Only if you do not eat them. Don
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Danceswithsheep certainly has fun.
All scientologists are not clear, only those without brains, which is, I admit, most of them. I offer Tom Cruise as evidence.
LMAO... Look Matt.. You don't know anything, I'm the expert...
My dogs have more personality than some people I've met and are a hell of a lot more honest.
A while back there was a special on called "Why dogs smile and chimpanzes (sp) cry". It showed a most extraordinary range of emotions and behavior by a group of animals. Love, fear, compassion, memory, tradition, family affection, anxiety, dread. Every emotion that humans possess, the animals also possess in varying degrees. There was even a chimp that resorted to trickary to get what he wanted. How human is that?
My dogs have more personality than some people I've met and are a hell of a lot more honest.
And they are just as glad to see you come home even if you do it ten times a day.
Every emotion that humans possess, the animals also possess in varying degrees.
possess or exhibit?
From my personal experience, it will get even by biting your leg--as if to say, "Don't ever laugh at me."
So, IMHO, animals have pride. [}:)]
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Every emotion that humans possess, the animals also possess in varying degrees.
possess or exhibit?
Both. You must possess it to exhibit it. A person doesn't exhibit kindness unless they possess it.