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Might be time to "lock-and-load."
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I have a bad, bad feeling about this election... and maybe every election from here on. Neither side will take the results as accurate-- both will claim they were cheated if they lose. And they are both stirring up dissention and hate in advance, in the event they lose. Might be time to "lock-and-load."
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Dave
How different the world would be if we could consult the veteran instead of the politician. - Henry Miller
Don
"Anybody but Kerry"
Welcome to America...Now speak English.
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
Many Republican campaign offices have been looted and vandelized...the groundwork for violence is being laid.
Sensible people are ALWAYS ready...[:D][^]
"I would not mind being the last man on earth just to see if all those girls were telling me the truth"
I wont go down without a fight.. (even though I sold all my guns).
www.awbansunset.com
"I will no longer debate a liberal because I feel they are beneath contempt. Just communicating with one contaminates a person." - whiteclouder
"If the existing assault weapons ban expires, I personally do not believe it will make one whit of difference one way or another . . . So if it doesn't pass, it doesn't pass." Tom Diaz, Senior Policy Analyst, Violence Policy Center (VPC)
Mudge the pleasant
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!<BR>
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I'm seriously starting to wonder if the British parliament isn't a better model for government than our own.
In our system, a person can be president without achieving the popular majority. That person then can choose to govern from the middle, or to govern as if they had a mandate, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
In the British system, multiple parties are possible (which in my mind is a huge advantage over the two-party system), and the leader usually becomes Prime Minister with less than the popular majority. But to make the legislature work, the Prime Minister is forced to form a coalition with parties other than his/her own. And once the ruling coalition loses a vote, it is understood that power has shifted and a new election takes place.
What I really like about the british system is that it is friendly to multiple parties.
What I really don't like about the US system is that it allows people with less than a popular mandate to pull the country in f***ed up directions.
An election system in this country that was based on the popular (rather than the electoral) vote might help....but I don't think so.
I'm a geek, and I'm proud of it!
John Edwards wife made a statement the other day.
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2004/10/25/20041025_162404_dncee.htm
And Al Gore
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041024/D85U1M280.html
I have not herd any statements like this from any republicans.
Don
"Anybody but Kerry"
Welcome to America...Now speak English.
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
rldowns3 -> X-ring!
"There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain) ". . . And liberals." (me)
This is the first time I have ever heard crap about "riots" over the results.
Don
Don--Mrs Edwards told us that there wouldn't be riots if they won. She sounded like she knew. Almost as if riots were planned and organized if Kerry/Edwards lost.
That is way I read it.
Don
"Anybody but Kerry"
Welcome to America...Now speak English.
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
All you guys that say "I won't go down without a fight" implieing that you will use your guns to protect your property, family, what is yours, etc....etc.... if you do this be prepared.
Not many people will support you, because we sheeple can seem to organize on a large scale anything (i.e taxes are out of control, everyone complains, no one does anything).
The cops will simply arrest you after a standoff.....you will be arrested, sent to prison and you will be painted as a disturbed person, a militia crazy, etc....
The groundwork has already been laid regaring this thinking. Just think about it, militias are painted as all bad, a bunch of eccentric right wingers.... a guy who owns alot of guns is a gun nut that is paranoid...
I'm afraid its to late to really stand up for yourself. Government built itself way to big with to many checks to make sure IT IS IN CONTROL.....Just think about that! Just think about why we have two classes when people talk, the Government and the people. I thought we were all supposed to be the people....yet we are seperated.
I'll say it again, the US thinks its mighty and can never go away, but Rome thought the same thing, just as alot of other government systems that have failed.
The US in relation is still a infant.
I give our country 50 years max before it is taken over by another country or our system as we know it changes 100%.
Jon
Geeeez, guys (and gals), get real!! Some of the people here are sounding a bit "Koreshish." Will wind up just like him if "Granny gets her gun."
Sheesh!![V]
The sky is falling. You just don't know it yet.
had his arm broken while holding back Democrats raiding a local Republican headquarters.
" It Ain't Over till its Over"
This one as more appropriate:
God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and some people with enough wisdom to pull their heads out of the sand.
Seen plenty of elections where the looser congratulates the winner and all is forgiven. All of the presidential elections went this way until Al Gore refused to admit that his dreams of empire were not to be and went to court over the election and still never congratulated Bush and buried the hatchet. Now they want to go by popular vote so the cities can elect the president because most of the city folk vote democrat. In a way it is good to have neither party at an advantage. Now they must realize that they must find an exceptional man to run if they wish to win by a convincing majority of the popular and electoral vote.Or a third party independant of the two majors will have a good shot next go round.
I think that's not right.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/transcripts/121300/t651213.html
Remember, nobody disagrees that Gore won the popular vote. Its understandable, therefore, why people might have been upset by the ultimate outcome of the election.
All either side needs to do to avoid all this nonsense is simply win convincingly.
Would you be kind enough to point out to me the "dissension and hate" that Bush's campaign is "stirring up"?
Mudge the pleasant
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!<BR>
noooo the Bush campaign is not stirring up hate......I've always hated Democrats more than Republicans.
If the Bush campaign wanted to create hate towards Kerry they would play the Kerry speech from the Mtv 'rock the vote' interview where Kerry admitted to smoking weed. Maybe they would take the Kerry early 70's congressional speech and make it mandatory our military hear Kerry saying the entire U.S. military are criminals reminiscent of Genghis Khan..
your comments say to me that you have exactly bought into the propaganda idea that the government pushes...ie. David Koresh is a bad militia type and so is everyone else that is in a militia.
Your post says to me that you are one of the sheep I am speaking about.
Classic,
Thank you, you are seeing exactly what I am seeing, 50 years more for the US is about all.
Jon
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
spergemaster, WHAT ? England is gunless
" It Ain't Over till its Over"
I'm a geek, and I'm proud of it!