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A case of rape...
scottm21166
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26 years ago a 17 year old freshman female was raped at a frat rush party. she went to campus authorities and was basically brushed off when she attempted to report the rape. SO she went on with life. struggled with the damage the rape had caused her and the mental anguish brought on by this brutal act...she now ownes her own event planning business and has a family. when she receives a letter in the mail. Its from her attacker apologizing after all these years for what he had done to her..( I believe he was doing his amends for AA 12 step group)the letter lead to many more emails letters and phone calls between the two then she did what surprized me...she reported the rape and filed charges...there is no statute of limitation for the crime of forcible rape so the district attorney filed the case and arrested the man who awaits trial?
What do you think of this?
I don't know what if any continued criminal behavior the man had
What do you think of this?
I don't know what if any continued criminal behavior the man had
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I don't blame her one bit for pressing charges.
Ben
p.s. you got mail
finally "my name is earl" paid its debt to society
good thought ...I like that show
finally "my name is earl" paid its debt to society
love that show and yes, it seems to have had a payoff.
Now, the guy deserves jail time.
It took some guts for the guy to admit to it.
Now, the guy deserves jail time.
how much? I always wonder when a parson commited a crime long ago. may have changed their ways led a good life since then...what is the motivation for sending them to prison? I understand the damage they caused may be ongoing. could that be it? or is it just payback?
I personally thrive on it.
"You do the crime, you do the time" is the way I've heard it stated here on more than one occasion.
[^]barto[^]
Lucky that I don't know the lady....would have taken care of this problem for her.
You teach a dog by punishing it when it does bad, and rewarding it when it does good.
I think the justice system should work the same way with criminals/people.
Its hard to justify punishing someone when they do the right thing.
But doing one right thing does not excuse all the wrong things one has done.
This provides no incentive for others to come forward and attempt to make ammends, thus you reward those who keep quiet with continued freedom, and punish those that attempt to make ammends.
Likewise you dont want to let them off, because then it sets the example of "oh I can rape someone if I apologize afterwards and claim to be truly sorry"
So the question is what kind of example do you want to set to discourage rape, but not discourage attempting to make ammends.
Punishments arent just for the criminal, they should also serve as a warning to other would be criminals.
By punishing this guy, you'll make 100 others stay silent forever, by not punishing him, you will make 10 others decide it may be worth it to go out and rape someone.
I argue when handing out justice, its not just about what they deserve to get, but what you want other would be criminals to know.
I would give him the minimum sentance possible as a compromise between the two
How many of you committed acts as a young adult that should be punished?
If you're now saying hang him, go turn yourself in too or forever know thy name is coward.
I remember this one girl in the back of my parent's '62 Rambler, she said, "Don't. Stop." I thought she said "Don't stop". And she didn't act like she wanted to stop, either.
Has anyone here had a sexual encounter with a person of the opposite sex he regrets because it may now be interpreted as rape?
I remember this one girl in the back of my parent's '62 Rambler, she said, "Don't. Stop." I thought she said "Don't stop". And she didn't act like she wanted to stop, either.
same thing happened to me but the sheriff didnt buy it. girls are very confused beings. they have a regret syndrome that often translates regret into rape. i know like 15 girls who say they were date raped and i also know the guys. the guys all say the girl never said no. the girls only make the rape claims when their friends or mom and dad find out.
As for the idiot who raped a girl long, long ago...and NOW...not at the time, but NOW is sorry...he can say how sorry he is to the judge if he truly feels any regret for what he did.
Regardless of the time difference between the incident date and the date of his 'confession,' he needs to spend some time in PRISON!
The story reminds me of something that happened here about 20 years ago. Our Capt. was always yelling at us to get out of the CID office because:
No one ever just walks in here and 'fesses up to a crime!
Well, lo and behold, one day about 9 in the morning, this guy walks in, crying and carrying a Bible, asking to talk to an Investigator.
I took him to an interview room, and he started confessing to a rape that he'd committed a couple of years back. He gave all the details, even aluding to the fact the victim shot at him as he was leaving the scene!
But I think there should be some reward for coming forward, kinda like a guilty plea almost always gets you a lighter sentance(plea bargaining).
Give him the minimum sentance possible.
Id have to agree alot of girls consent but then feel ashamed the next day and cry rape.
they got drunk and made a stupid decision, probability is the guy was drunk too, but some how hes at fault.
"Dont, stop". vs "dont stop", and then doesnt act like she wants you to stop?
How about a girl shows up to a party(she drove there, so was sober to start with), is there for about and hour or two(has a few drinks, but not much)
things lead to things, shes on top. this occurs around 11:30.
Sleep occurs next. 5:30 am, after not having had a drink in 6 hours, she is once again on top again. 6am, she drives home.
sounds like a pretty much typical one night stand.
next day after her friend(s) find out, the story is, that its a stupid rumor and she just went to the room and went to sleep.
later on, when asked about what happened some more by the guy, it changes to, "i was drunk, i dont remember what happened"
When the guy says theres no way she can go from too drunk to remember to ok to drive a car home in the space of 20 minutes, it becomes "as far as i remember I was drunk and went to sleep and dont remember anything else..... if anything DID happen, it would be rape....."
the subject was quickly dropped.... story told to friends: nothing happened.
Fact: she was sober when she showed up (driving) just before 10pm,
Fact: she was never given a drink by the person she had relations with.
Fact: she was on top during the ~11:30 session
Fact: she had not had a drink for at least 6 hours when 5:30 came around.
Fact: she was also on top during the 5am-5:40am session.
Fact: she drove home at 6am sober.
However...... the mere hint of a rape accusation is all she needed to get the guy and his friends to shut up about it and act like nothing happened.
Given personal experiences... plus what you hear on the news (lacrosse team black girl rape etc), and on the internet (boe boe- "dont stop"/"dont, stop"), Id have to put alot of doubt into any rape claim without evidence.
But thats sorta off topic... the guy should still be punished to a lesser degree.
What the....rape...and some here seem to be nearly fine with almost commiting this crime???? I hope we come up with some sort of enzime to put into the water so these people turn a BRIGHT GREEN from head to toe....that way I (at least) get a better idea of who to keep as far away from me and my family...for their own safety.
As for the idiot who raped a girl long, long ago...and NOW...not at the time, but NOW is sorry...he can say how sorry he is to the judge if he truly feels any regret for what he did.
here we go again...
you have two modes it seems..... reaction and over-reation
no one here condons rape or wants to minimize the effect it had on this lady. I saw her on the news she is a very reasonable person and had her reasons for reporting the crime. The man was obviously making amends for all his past wrong doings it is a nessasary step in AA or other 12 step programs. Im sure the desicion wasn't made lightly he went to great lengths to track her down...spoke with her by letter, email and phone over the course of several months and my guess would be he is also willing to accept the consequences of his actions...he did this strictly on his own. there was no impending indictment or even an investigation. he had to make things right with himself his god and his victim. His forceible rape crime is notheing like what the guys here have shared from their experience which amounts to coersion at worst and qualified as seduction in most circles during that time...good girls did not say yes in that era it was almost a game (from what I heard)
but the question remains...how much time is fair for him to spend in jail
[:p]oops...I turned brite green
Just my $.02
Further proof no good deed goes unpunished.
How many of you committed acts as a young adult that should be punished?
If you're now saying hang him, go turn yourself in too or forever know thy name is coward.
Good point! I am always impressed with the number of saints we have here. Never in real life have I met even one totally clean soul, but there are dozens on here. It is really quite remarkable.
I also agree that I would need to hear the whole story. especially about the mans current life because this case would fall outside norman sentancing guidelines in my opinion. CA sucks said it best.
there was a story similar to this a few years back involving a woman who was part of a bank robbery that resulted in a police officer being killed during the getaway....the woman dissapeared, adopted a new identity married had children and lived a productive life for like 15 years before guilt caused her to turn herself in. she received a modest jail term if I recall. While it was shown that she did not shoot the officer herself she was still culpable
Lock him up. Getting away with a crime is not the same as being innocent. No matter how much good he has done with his life in the past 20 years, the guy is still an admitted Rapist. I wonder if it was your Wife, or your Daughter that he raped 20 years ago, if you guys would be so forgiving.
As I stated earlier, I would not be forgiving.