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full autos near work today

bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
edited October 2004 in General Discussion
Pulling a well and replacing the submersible pump for a fella who lives just outside of town in the horse country area. Long about 6pm I hear brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbp....brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrp really fast cycling small caliber like a 9mm Mac. Minute or two later tatatatatatatatata...tatatatatatatatatatat definitely an AK. Little bit after it stopped papapapapapapapapapapapap.....papapapapapap an M16 then back to the AK for a couple more 30 rounders and another fifty or so rounds of M16. Then KABOOMOOMOOMOOM a single 50 caliber shot about a minute later...KABOOMOOMOOMOOM another and another and another.
The lady of the house said that it was rude or something like that and that she worried for her safety cause he's shooting like that all the time. I told her that since we were only a mile from the town limits that I could guarantee that every police man from the town and county had been to see the guy and made damn sure he had a class 3 license and that his shooting range was adequate to stop anything he was shooting from leaving his property. As far as it being rude he was just pursuing his own brand of happiness and was well within the law. I informed her that it being still a somewhat free country she had nothing to keep her from moving well away from him. I also told her if she asked politely he may shoot at times more suitable to her schedule, like when she is at work. Or if she is having guests over for dinner on the deck she could call and see if he'd stick to 22's that day. Stuff like that. I hold off until after church lets out on Sundays since the minister asked so nice.

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  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    Are you doing work in my neighborhood now?
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    Don't go blaming the beer. Hank Hill

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  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
    edited November -1
    Sure sounded like it.

    040103cowboy_shooting_one_gun_md_clr_prv.gifBig Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
    TOOLS

    General TOOLS RRG

    Don't go blaming the beer. Hank Hill

    So much Ice, So much Beer. So little time. Shooter4

    I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill

    When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am grown, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Those sounds are music to my ears. [:D] [:D]


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  • MuffinmanMuffinman Member Posts: 418 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just cause you here FA don't mean it's a Machine Gun. I can Flip a AR or AK just like FA.
  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
    edited November -1
    No you can't.

    040103cowboy_shooting_one_gun_md_clr_prv.gifBig Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
  • rediceredice Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
    No you can't.

    040103cowboy_shooting_one_gun_md_clr_prv.gifBig Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems


    agreed bump doesnt sound anything like full auto.
  • MattyTibbsMattyTibbs Member Posts: 148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BUT... Bump firing is very fun indeed I may add. You don't need a FA permit to bumb fire [:D]

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  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
    edited November -1
    Yeah, but you ain't bump firing at full auto rate or with the same cadence.

    040103cowboy_shooting_one_gun_md_clr_prv.gifBig Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
  • MuffinmanMuffinman Member Posts: 418 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
    No you can't.

    040103cowboy_shooting_one_gun_md_clr_prv.gifBig Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems



    I beat I can shot both and you can't tell! Done it so many times even I can't tell when I switch from Class III AK to My Semi AK.
  • IAMACLONE_2IAMACLONE_2 Member Posts: 4,725
    edited November -1
    Bump fire a M2HB 50bmg, ok, herunia city..[:D]
  • skbskeetskbskeet Member Posts: 81 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    muffin - how about posting link to a video clip, or email me one. Never seen anyone bump fire anything close to FA rate.

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  • skbskeetskbskeet Member Posts: 81 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    muffin - how about posting link to a video clip, or email me one. Never seen anyone bump fire anything close to FA rate.

    "Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA-- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." Heinrich Himmler.
  • Doc FeelgoodDoc Feelgood Member Posts: 542 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree that it would be very interesting to see a video clip of bump firing that I could not distinguish from full auto. It may can be done but for myself I have never been able to nor have any of my friends who do quite a bit of it.
  • CHGOTHNDERCHGOTHNDER Member Posts: 8,936 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not having real time sound effects on the forum sux, but I close my eyes and imagine I'm at the range and hearing them.

    PJ

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  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    What I used to do in Greenland with the semi's there - was not what you know as Bump-Fire.

    Bump-Fire seems to be the technique of holding the gun in your weak hand and use your strong hand as a "hook" to catch the trigger and pull the weapon forward by your weak hand and the weapon is by your hip.


    What I do is find the "Sweet spot" as I call it.

    Fire the rifle from shouldered and aimed position, just fire a few rounds or magazines to get to know the trigger and exactly where it breaks.

    Then "cramp up" my forearm/hand (let the elbow stay fairly loose) just enough as to let the recoil on my shoulder do the walking of the trigger.
    It can with some experience reach what sounds like small bursts of FullAuto - and in many cases at least half of FA-rate.

    BUT this allows you to shoot aimed shots instead.


    I think PaBooger heard it when I let his Camp-9 rip through his 30shotmag. The whole mag lasted about 4-5 seconds I guess, we didn't time it - and oh yeah.. I let 5-8 shots go before I emptied the rest.
    His kids seemed happy about it too.

    Now that wasn't even close to what I've come at max firing rate, it can quite possibly go a lot faster than that.

    I've seen measurements by shootingtimers showing readouts at 340-480 shots per minute on FNFAL, AR15 and Mini-14 on this kind of shooting.
    Those shots were a full-clip too, 20-30 shots.


    I've done something like 290 shots per minute on a civilian version of HK G3A3 7.62Nato in Greenland using this method.
    That is about half of it's original FA-rate, but this was aimed shots that all hit a dumped and empty gas-canister at 80 yards.
    The gun didn't climb into the air like a normal G3 would at full auto, it stayed on target.

    In order to develop a more precise weapon, FullAuto weapon that is - the manufacturers lowers the cadence/rate-of-fire so it is easier to handle - it also saves ammo.
    It's not because it can't go any faster on FA - it can.. you just can't control it then.


    So I guess it's not just empty talk, that you can fire close to or as fast as FA-rate by developing your own trigger-technique.

    Been there... done that.. only got close to half the rate.. but that was close enough while still maintaining relative accuracy.

    I guess I could go 50% faster than my max.. if all I wanted was to burn off some cartridges and empty some magazines.
    But where's the fun in that.?

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    Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.
  • MuffinmanMuffinman Member Posts: 418 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got a VCR tape of obout 2 hours worth. If I can convert it to MPEG I'll post it. You tell me which ones are FA and which are Semi. I will tell you the truth which was which. There are about 20 of us down there, Even a Calico 9mm 100 rd drum that was dumped in 4 second. I never would have thought a Calico 9 could do that?
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