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is there a trick to it?

scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
I have never had a 1911 colt with a one piece guide rod....it doesn't want to come apart as normal...is there some trick I can do?
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  • 7.62x397.62x39 Member Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cutting torch....[8D]
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    Fella I bought my 1911 from said he recommended putting the blue Loc-Tite on the one-piece to keep from having to tighten it every 30 rounds or so. Maybe yours has something stronger on it?
    I'm reaching here, but doesn't heat help break down that sort of glue? And if so, could a guy use a soldering iron and a lot of patience to try to get it loose? (apply the soldering iron to the tip of the rod.) Sorry if all I could offer is more questions, but maybe one of them is the right question....
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    frig it...Ill figure it out
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  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Drink another beer. I find that helps me out when fricking with guns.
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    Hey, man. Just tryin' to help.
    Let me know what you find out, though. Seriously.
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  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    cdnn_1898_30230930

    get on in plastic. or use the base of a magazine on the plug. Helps if you cock the hammer an put the safety on.
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  • PearywPearyw Member Posts: 3,699
    edited November -1
    Take the slide off the frame, press the plug to the rear with a bushing wrench, pull the rod down slightly at the rear, turn bushing out of the way, push the rod back up, removed the plug and spring from the front, and drop the rod from the rear. It takes a little practice.
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it's a "reverse recoil plug" then another recoil plug pushed through from the barrel end will help push the tight plug back (or just pull back on the recoil plug). Now you'll have to keep a "GOOD" grip on the recoil grouping or else you'll shoot your eye out. To put it back together you may have to "Load" the spring (as in push the plug down on to the spring and guide rod) then place it in the slide. I have one (Scoremaster) that has that quirk. Now if you have the "bushing" then the werench will be helpful (push down on the plug a little helps).
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  • MadmanMadman Member Posts: 601 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't screw with further, pull the slide release and remove the slide and go from there...and have another beer

    Harley
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  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The one piece - full length guide rod on my Kimber has a small hole in it about 1/2 way back. The idea is to pull the slide back and insert a pin (a large paper clip unfolded will work), release the slide (bushing will stop at the pin and slide will be back) and remove the slide stop pin and remove the barrel/slide

    These can be a real pain with an #18 spring!

    Of course, if you don't have a hole in the guide rod, this post is useless

    ICE
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Madman
    Don't screw with further, pull the slide release and remove the slide and go from there...and have another beer

    Harley

    This is my shortcut I normally use....the slide moves forward but then seems stuck to the spring when I do it to this gun. I could just pull it apart (maybe) but im sure the spring would be overstretched in the process.
    My partner wants to take it apart but he makes me nervous anytime he handles a 1911 Im just sure he will break something (or leave a takedown mark)...he is 76 yeas old and while he certainly knows much more than I about guns his hands are not very strong these days.

    no hole in the guide rod but I bet it is a heavy spring
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So Scott is it "Reverse Recoil Cap"?

    If it's the "RRC" then what you need to do is to push the cap and spring back enough so it slips out of the slide. Then the guide rod has enough room to pivot enough to slip out of the slide.

    By the way does the 1911 have a "Bull Barrel"? (thought about this on my walk about) I ask this because when I slapped a Bar-Sto Bull Barrel on the Reverse Recoil Cap would rub on the barrel as it moved forward. Then at a certain point it would just bind and goes no further. The "Original" Bull Barrel the Scoremaster came with had the bottom of the barrel ground flat for clearence. However the Bar-Sto barrel did not so the original "RRC" needed to have the collar ground down a bit. Cheaper to sacrafice if I messed up[:D].

    So, if you have a round bottom Bull Barrel it might be dragging on "RRC".
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