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Why do you think silver and gold have

onepopperonepopper Member Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
fallen like lead balloons? Can't be Greece.

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  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So have most all things,,most guns are down in value, antiques have fell off the map, metals no diff. Boats, campers, jet skies ect. are for sale by the dozens around here... Guess Barrys economy is not as robust as he states...FACT, cash is king right now,,
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Fallen like lead balloons" is a relative term.

    The stupid high peak spot prices cannot be considered as indicative of the average value of metal.

    More like a slow return to normal.

    I bought a 1910-D Eagle today. Spot seems to have leveled out for awhile.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Both are still well above historic averages and as MG1890 noted, we seem to be in a slow return to normal, though we do not know what that new normal will be.

    There is no reason that $ 1,000.00 gold and $ 10.00 silver is the new normal, though from most reports, silver at $ 15.00 is below the cost of production for most mines/mints.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • hunter86004hunter86004 Member Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From the Silver Institute:

    "Primary silver mine cash costs dropped 16 percent to US$7.74 an ounce, while the producer silver hedge book grew by 15.8 Moz in 2014."
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All things must crash...
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hunter86004
    From the Silver Institute:

    "Primary silver mine cash costs dropped 16 percent to US$7.74 an ounce, while the producer silver hedge book grew by 15.8 Moz in 2014."


    Never understood the concept of 'cash costs' regarding gold and silver, though it is a metric that has been used forever. As it does not even include overhead, when selling at 'cash cost' there is negative cash flow.

    Sustainable costs range from $ 13.00 on up, with, as reported in the following link, an industry average in 2013 of greater than $ 20.00 with it lowering to an expected 'low to mid' teens this year.

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/2882886-gold-and-silver-headwinds-lower-mining-costs

    Obviously the link is only one man's research and opinion.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Because right now, everyone is investing in stars and bars[;)][;)][;)]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    a drive around the little towns in your area will show how crappy the economy is...withering and junky
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good time to buy ....
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,522 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Good time to buy ....


    Not Yet.. be patient.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,159 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can guarantee that small town wages don't allow any room for "investments". Gold and silver?? With the cost of groceries, gas, insurance, and utilities, folks around here are barely keeping ahead of the collection agencies.
  • GemJediGemJedi Member Posts: 120 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You smell that? Coming out of Greece and Puerto Rico? That is the smell of money burning, money as defined as financial assets, that is deflation. The money supply has grown through asset inflation and now we are seeing that a lot of it is not payable. In reality very little is payable but now we have reached the limit of the ability to roll bad financial assets over. During inflation gold loses value as financial assets gain. Now with deflation the remaining assets, including cash and gold, are more valuable even if the price stays the same. So congrats if you own gold because it is secure in a a sea of burning financial assets
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by GemJedi
    You smell that? Coming out of Greece and Puerto Rico? That is the smell of money burning, money as defined as financial assets, that is deflation. The money supply has grown through asset inflation and now we are seeing that a lot of it is not payable. In reality very little is payable but now we have reached the limit of the ability to roll bad financial assets over. During inflation gold loses value as financial assets gain. Now with deflation the remaining assets, including cash and gold, are more valuable even if the price stays the same. So congrats if you own gold because it is secure in a a sea of burning financial assets
    That is very good for your 10th post, Welcome aboard.

    Do I sense a pattern?
  • GemJediGemJedi Member Posts: 120 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by GemJedi
    You smell that? Coming out of Greece and Puerto Rico? That is the smell of money burning, money as defined as financial assets, that is deflation. The money supply has grown through asset inflation and now we are seeing that a lot of it is not payable. In reality very little is payable but now we have reached the limit of the ability to roll bad financial assets over. During inflation gold loses value as financial assets gain. Now with deflation the remaining assets, including cash and gold, are more valuable even if the price stays the same. So congrats if you own gold because it is secure in a a sea of burning financial assets
    That is very good for your 10th post, Welcome aboard.

    Do I sense a pattern?


    The pattern is new posters rule!
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by GemJedi
    quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
    quote:Originally posted by GemJedi
    You smell that? Coming out of Greece and Puerto Rico? That is the smell of money burning, money as defined as financial assets, that is deflation. The money supply has grown through asset inflation and now we are seeing that a lot of it is not payable. In reality very little is payable but now we have reached the limit of the ability to roll bad financial assets over. During inflation gold loses value as financial assets gain. Now with deflation the remaining assets, including cash and gold, are more valuable even if the price stays the same. So congrats if you own gold because it is secure in a a sea of burning financial assets
    That is very good for your 10th post, Welcome aboard.

    Do I sense a pattern?


    The pattern is new posters rule!
    In a very strange way, I like it.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,159 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Precious metals aren't worth much if you can't protect them or if you can't find anything to buy with them. Simply having the stuff won't keep you alive. In fact, depending on who knows you have precious metals may make you a target quicker than anything else.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought folks are just buying .22LRs instead of gold or silver.
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