444 Marlin Recoil

mackcrane

I shot an H&R Handi Rifle in 444 Marlin & was surprised that the recoil didn't Do Me In. I used a Limbsaver Shoulder Pad with Hornady Lever Evolution 265 gr. FTX ammo. Only shot it 3 times but it seemed to be more "Push" than "Kick". How's it compare to a 45-70 in the same rifle? Thanks.

grumpygy

Try it in the Marlin Lever action. Same thing.

guntech59

I have fired them both in Marlin lever actions. To me the 444 is a sharper recoil than the 45-70. But.....the 444 I fired was straight stocked and the 45-70 was not. That may have made more difference than the cartridge.

savage170

Normal 45-70 loads I can't tell much difference between the 2 get into the heavy loads like some of the Buffalo Bore loads then the 45-70 wins the recoil contest hands down

yoshmyster

I got a guy trying to tell me different "style" of stocks makes the felt recoil harder. He says the straight stocked like the Marlin 1895GS punches harder than a pistol stock like GBL.

gunnut505

Yoshisan, the impulse from recoil flows like a wave; a straight stock is in line with the center of the wave. A stock that drops or twists redirects that wave above or beside it. That steals a little energy from the wave.
Like a pistol grip on a shotgun, there are the common ones, which dump it in the web & wrist, and the "sawed off" looking ones that you grip like a shovel.
Big difference.

gruntled

quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
I got a guy trying to tell me different "style" of stocks makes the felt recoil harder. He says the straight stocked like the Marlin 1895GS punches harder than a pistol stock like GBL.


The same loads in my Ruger #3 HURT much more than in my Marlin 95.
I think most of the problem is the curved steel buttplate.

bearman49709

quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
I got a guy trying to tell me different "style" of stocks makes the felt recoil harder. He says the straight stocked like the Marlin 1895GS punches harder than a pistol stock like GBL.


He's correct,the style of stock can make a big difference.

spasmcreek

my rechambered #3 ruger kicks butt in 444 marlin...my martini style target rifle sits there..of course it is 11# of iron and wood

select-fire

Weight and balance of firearm makes a huge difference.

use enough gun

If you can try a old Winchester Hi wall with the thin stock with the big drop, cresent steel buttplate. If you are recoil sensitive you will NOT like it at all.
I've got one chambered n 45/120, 9-1/4 lb. Rifle. With the 605 grn pp bullet and the top loads I've shot in it, it generated 120 ftlbs of recoil. A step or two back, one leg at a 45 degree angle upwards and turned at an angle.

grumpygy

This is the style of 444 I have.

It not that bad on recoil. 30-06 I have flat hurt just to give you an Idea.

pricklypear

I used the 444 with the pistol grip stock back in the 80s. Under recoil with the factory Remington 265 grain the muzzle rise made it hard to get back on a running deer. Of course if the deer was hit no follow up shots were needed. Fire a box or two at the range and... well I eventually sold it.

I also have a model 95 that was new in 1973, it has a straight stock and curved steel but plate. With a 405 grain hard cast at about 1600 fps the recoil is mild. Step up to a 350 grain jacketed factory load and it is a real bruiser.

yoshmyster

gunnut505 bearman49709 - No... He can't be right. I suppose even a retarded squirrel will find a nut every now and again. I reckon someone told him.

To me 45-70 is 45-70 but I ain't gonna pop off a whole box in one sitting [:D].