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Have at it......... Police dog dies in hot car
riflemike
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K-9 dies in hot police car after being trapped for 10 hours
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INEXCUSABLE!!! That dog was HIS "PARTNER"!! Just like another OFFICER in his truck/car would have been. FRY THAT A-HOLE!![:(!]
Is this story dated? I just read a story last month or so about a dog left to die by a cop...
INEXCUSABLE!!! That dog was HIS "PARTNER"!! Just like another OFFICER in his truck/car would have been. FRY THAT A-HOLE!![:(!]
This is a new one. Just happened yesterday I think.
A Little Rock K9 died yesterday after chasing a burglary suspect. Dogs don't take heat as well as humans do. People using dogs must learn that they will suffer health problems faster than will a man in the heat.
Too old to live...too young to die...
I don't understand how this happened. Was the dog intentionally left in the vehicle or was he forgotten?
A Little Rock K9 died yesterday after chasing a burglary suspect. Dogs don't take heat as well as humans do. People using dogs must learn that they will suffer health problems faster than will a man in the heat.
belgian malinois do, not locked in a car heat but much better than a German shepherd or other breeds
I don't understand how this happened.
Me either, how does a parent accidentally leave their kid in a car? Shameful carelessness and negligence. Prosecute him like anyone else would be prosecuted.
"We are mourning the loss of our own," Police Chief Gene Wilson said. Hopefully the Chief will hold the person responsible who caused the death. Another question. Would you want an officer this careless and negligent on the street?
A K-9 Officer who kills his dog is too stupid to be a meter maid, let alone a cop.
This is an untrue statement, no matter how often repeated.
quote:So, what's the penalty for torture and murder of a cop? If a CITIZEN injures or kills a police dog, he gets prosecuted like he hurt a human.
This is an untrue statement, no matter how often repeated.
What part? I do know a guy that got charged with assault on a police officer because punched the K-9 that was sick'ed on him.[B)]
quote:Originally posted by Doc
I don't understand how this happened.
Me either, how does a parent accidentally leave their kid in a car? Shameful carelessness and negligence. Prosecute him like anyone else would be prosecuted.
Yup. Agree 100%, But it won't happen. He will get a few days off with pay and a reprimand in his jacket.
quote:So, what's the penalty for torture and murder of a cop? If a CITIZEN injures or kills a police dog, he gets prosecuted like he hurt a human.
This is an untrue statement, no matter how often repeated.
in my state its not
but, a K9 is not just a dog. it's a cop.
if a citizen punches a K9 he is charged with assault on a police officer.
if a citizen kills a K9, undoubtedly he would be charged with murder.
if a citizen, somehow, accidentally left a K9 in a car and it died, he would be charged with negligent homicide, wouldn't he?
but a cop accidentally leaves a K9 in a car and it dies, nothing happens.
I think the complaint here is that it's a double standard. the police protect their dogs from crime by promoting them to the status of police. but that is forgotten when a cop is the perpetrator.
the complaint is that it's not fair.
You say life isnt fair, no way!!!!
I'm shocked!!!
Life has always went my way with aces, i mean all sunshine and bunnies even.
Say it aint so!!!!
if a citizen punches a K9 he is charged with assault on a police officer.
if a citizen kills a K9, undoubtedly he would be charged with murder.
if a citizen, somehow, accidentally left a K9 in a car and it died, he would be charged with negligent homicide, wouldn't he?
but a cop accidentally leaves a K9 in a car and it dies, nothing happens.
Multiple times, I have copied and pasted material straight from the Texas Penal Code to repudiate remarks similar to those above. It hasn't done any good, so I won't bother today.
There are laws in place to protect police service animals. The laws are specific to animals, and penalties ARE NOT equivalent to those for crimes against humans.
Dogs are not humans, and do not enjoy the same level of protection under the law, no matter what state you're in. When have you ever heard of someone sentenced to death, or even life without parole, for killing a dog?
That's just nutty.
Dogs aren't people, and people aren't dogs.
One of the basic requirements for being a peace officer is to be a human being, at least 21 years old. Dogs don't qualify.
In order to be a victim of assault or murder, one must also be a human being. There are laws in place prohibiting cruelty, abuse, and the killing of certain animals, and again, animals are not people.
One must also be a human to be charged with a crime.
Animals and people. Not the same. Treated similarly, but not identically, under the law. Under DIFFERENT laws.
quote:but, a K9 is not just a dog. it's a cop.
if a citizen punches a K9 he is charged with assault on a police officer.
if a citizen kills a K9, undoubtedly he would be charged with murder.
if a citizen, somehow, accidentally left a K9 in a car and it died, he would be charged with negligent homicide, wouldn't he?
but a cop accidentally leaves a K9 in a car and it dies, nothing happens.
Multiple times, I have copied and pasted material straight from the Texas Penal Code to repudiate remarks similar to those above. It hasn't done any good, so I won't bother today.
There are laws in place to protect police service animals. The laws are specific to animals, and penalties ARE NOT equivalent to those for crimes against humans.
Dogs are not humans, and do not enjoy the same level of protection under the law, no matter what state you're in. When have you ever heard of someone sentenced to death, or even life without parole, for killing a dog?
That's just nutty.
Dogs aren't people, and people aren't dogs.
One of the basic requirements for being a peace officer is to be a human being, at least 21 years old. Dogs don't qualify.
In order to be a victim of assault or murder, one must also be a human being. There are laws in place prohibiting cruelty, abuse, and the killing of certain animals, and again, animals are not people.
One must also be a human to be charged with a crime.
Animals and people. Not the same. Treated similarly, but not identically, under the law. Under DIFFERENT laws.
Since this incident did not happen in Texas, you point is moot.
I am curious to know what the Georgia law says about it.
if you hit a police dog, you are charged with "assaulting an officer" exactly the same as if it were a human officer.
that TX law you posted refers to regular dogs. police dogs are different.
quote:Originally posted by nunn
quote:but, a K9 is not just a dog. it's a cop.
if a citizen punches a K9 he is charged with assault on a police officer.
if a citizen kills a K9, undoubtedly he would be charged with murder.
if a citizen, somehow, accidentally left a K9 in a car and it died, he would be charged with negligent homicide, wouldn't he?
but a cop accidentally leaves a K9 in a car and it dies, nothing happens.
Multiple times, I have copied and pasted material straight from the Texas Penal Code to repudiate remarks similar to those above. It hasn't done any good, so I won't bother today.
There are laws in place to protect police service animals. The laws are specific to animals, and penalties ARE NOT equivalent to those for crimes against humans.
Dogs are not humans, and do not enjoy the same level of protection under the law, no matter what state you're in. When have you ever heard of someone sentenced to death, or even life without parole, for killing a dog?
That's just nutty.
Dogs aren't people, and people aren't dogs.
One of the basic requirements for being a peace officer is to be a human being, at least 21 years old. Dogs don't qualify.
In order to be a victim of assault or murder, one must also be a human being. There are laws in place prohibiting cruelty, abuse, and the killing of certain animals, and again, animals are not people.
One must also be a human to be charged with a crime.
Animals and people. Not the same. Treated similarly, but not identically, under the law. Under DIFFERENT laws.
Since this incident did not happen in Texas, you point is moot.
I am curious to know what the Georgia law says about it.
* Intentionally causing physical harm to a law enforcement animal is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, a fine of up to $5,000, or both.
* Using a deadly weapon or other object or body part to physically injure a law enforcement animal is punishable by six to 12 months in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both.
* Intentionally shooting a law enforcement animal with a firearm or causing debilitating physical injury to the animal is punishable by one to five years in prison, a fine of up to $15,000, or both.
* Intentionally killing a law enforcement animal is punishable by 18 months to five years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both.
Source: Georgia Senate Press Office
No kidding.
quote:if you hit a police dog, you are charged with "assaulting an officer" exactly the same as if it were a human officer.
Not so, not in any state in the union. But it SOUNDS good and reasonable, so the uninformed believe it.
Kill a police officer acting in the line of duty and that is a CAPITAL FELONY, under section 19.03.
Kill a police dog and it is a SECOND DEGREE FELONY under section 38.151.
quote:that TX law you posted refers to regular dogs. police dogs are different.
You're right. Police dogs are different, and protected under the aforementioned statute, P.C. 38.151.
Ordinary dogs are protected under section 42.092.
I'll leave it to you to look them up. Most states have similar statutes on the books, with similar penalties.
I challenge you, or anyone else, to show me where someone was prosecuted for CAPITAL MURDER, and was executed, or is sitting on death row waiting to be executed, or is doing life without possibility of parole, for killing a police dog.
quote:nunn- we aren't talking about dogs, we are talking about police dogs.
No kidding.
quote:if you hit a police dog, you are charged with "assaulting an officer" exactly the same as if it were a human officer.
Not so, not in any state in the union. But it SOUNDS good and reasonable, so the uninformed believe it.
Kill a police officer acting in the line of duty and that is a CAPITAL FELONY, under section 19.03.
Kill a police dog and it is a SECOND DEGREE FELONY under section 38.151.
quote:that TX law you posted refers to regular dogs. police dogs are different.
You're right. Police dogs are different, and protected under the aforementioned statute, P.C. 38.151.
Ordinary dogs are protected under section 42.092.
I'll leave it to you to look them up. Most states have similar statutes on the books, with similar penalties.
I challenge you, or anyone else, to show me where someone was prosecuted for CAPITAL MURDER, and was executed, or is sitting on death row waiting to be executed, or is doing life without possibility of parole, for killing a police dog.
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That's why it's called HOMIcide as in same sapian and NOT
CANNIcide as in canine.
THE REAL CRIME IS THIS STUPID AUTO CENSOR- H=O=M=O IS NOT A BAD WORD!!
That said, no matter how useful, well trained, loyal, intelligent, and loved an animal is, it's still an animal. Someone shoots one of my pets, they deserve to get an *-whooping or, from a legal side of things, pay a stiff fine.
A dog is not a cop. A dog is a dog. It is a trained tool. That's all. Letting any living creature suffer and die like this is inexcusable, but no way the cop deserves the death penalty.
Just lock HIM in a hot car in the sun with no water for about 10 hours, and let nature decide if he makes it. I'd be ok with that.
but equal punishment for a leo vs if a civilian killed the dog, nothing more nothing less
it not like he had to use deadly force against a human, cop vs civilian scenario ether, im sorry but he should suffer the same fate even if a second degree felony cost him his job, {and not his pension}
well, that punishment for a civilian accidentally leaving a dog to die in a car is nothing. unfortunately.
well after all its open season on civilian dogs [:D]
I don't think anyone meant it was capitol murder on killing the dog vs a human, that's stretching it to prove a point
but equal punishment for a leo vs if a civilian killed the dog, nothing more nothing less
it not like he had to use deadly force against a human, cop vs civilian scenario ether, im sorry but he should suffer the same fate even if a second degree felony cost him his job, {and not his pension}
U nailed it 1911!!
In my OP I didn't mean "FRY HIM" as in the "CHAIR" I meant "try him according to what he's done",like anyone else.TURN UP THE HEAT on this POS!!
quote:Wilson announced Friday during a press conference that the department will look into a device that is used in daycare vans in order to keep their K-9s safe.
"It's like a kill switch for the vehicle," Lucas said. "A person will have to physically go to the rear of the vehicle and see the dog before turning off the ignition."
Wilson also mention in the conference that he believed Zane's death was an accident.
Williams' car did have a device known as a "Hot-N-Pop," which is an alarm that would alert the officer of the car's temperature and roll the windows down for the canine. But the device was not activated because the ignition was turned off.
I'm sure this happens a lot more often than makes the news, but we shouldn't fall into the same trap as the anti-gun ninnies and think something happens everywhere all the time just because it makes it into the news once in a while. there are 320,000,000 people in this country.
however I do agree this sort of tragedy should prompt other PD's to take precautions. most of them probably care enough about their dogs to do that as long as they can get the funding. I hope they are paying attention to this.
Irresponsible, negligent, How the hell does he forget his dog is in the car, Hes a freaking canine cop, dog is with him 24/7 prolly
He doesnt need to be a cop or to own a dog,
bet he feels terrible
I took the words as written. People have stated before that killing a police dog is the same as killing a police officer, and I have pointed out the error of such a statement, but they keep posting erroneously, even in the face of statutes to the contrary.
The victim of a murder has to be a human.
To murder a police officer is a capital crime in Texas, and probably in most other states. Penalty is either death or life without parole.
To kill a police dog is a felony, with a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and $10,000 fine.
I also have tried to point out the various culpable mental states required to successfully prosecute, again straight out of the Penal Code, to no avail. People still don't see any difference between "intentionally," and "recklessly." And when you throw, "negligently," in to the mix, things really get confused.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
_ Benjamin Franklin
well, that punishment for a civilian accidentally leaving a dog to die in a car is nothing. unfortunately.
Not here, it's not.