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Somebody is telling the truth

JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
Obama said he "ordered the military" to do what they could to assist personnel in Benghazi. General Ham, AFRICOM, said he didn't get that order. Both can not be true. Now I have to decide whether to believe a former "Community Organizer" turned politician or a General (that's four stars) with thirty-six years commissioned service after an enlistment in the 82nd Airborne.

Somebody is lieing and I'm wondering WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?!

There are already internet rumors that General Ham has been or is being relieved because he didn't agree with Leon Panetta.
The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.

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  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought Obama said he didn't know anything about it
  • Sooeyman2035Sooeyman2035 Member Posts: 3,226
    edited November -1
    Gee, this is going to be a tough one to figure out.
  • xstuntmanxstuntman Member Posts: 678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hmmm...

    Should i believe a decorated military leader or a Chicago politician?

    Umm, lets asked old Uncle Leon if he got an order from Barry for military action that didn't amount to watch and observe.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Leon Panetta. Its a wonder more are not being relieved for not agreeing with him. Or are they waiting till after the election.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The search for a scape goat begins.
  • we_dig_itwe_dig_it Member Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not one life was lost during Watergate, but this............
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First the 'Grand Community Organizer' says he didn't 'know' anything 'bout it...
    Then the GCO says he '"ordered the military" to do what they could to assist personnel in Benghazi...'
    Then... Gen Ham (a man of obvious tremendous responsibility) is rumored to be relieved of duty...
    Jus'cause he didn't agree with a politician or two...

    Gub'ment bureaucracy at it's finest... [;)]
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Just Watch- It will all be the fault of a Lance Corporal in the message center who confused the message with Michelle's list of accessories for the next fund raiser. If he doesn't get the firing squad it'll be at least twenty years hard labor.
  • we_dig_itwe_dig_it Member Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard reports an F-18 was in place to assist, but wasnt asked to.

    Anyone else hear this?
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This could really get confusing if teh subject general was Colin Powell!
    What's next?
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by we_dig_it
    I heard reports an F-18 was in place to assist, but wasnt asked to.

    Anyone else hear this?


    Heard it was a drone.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Move along people....nothing to see here.

    Have you heard about the hurricane apocalypse? [;)]
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    This could really get confusing if teh subject general was Colin Powell!

    I thought it was spelled Colon?
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Two drones, one F-18.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if the reassignment of an Admiral, Commander of the USS Stennis Strike Group is part of this fall out/scapegoat.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/Stennis-admiral-reassigned-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-judgment-176099991.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Move along people....nothing to see here.

    Have you heard about the hurricane apocalypse? [;)]

    As a matter of fact I have. I told the wife FOX News said this will be the worst storm to ever hit the United States. She said she doesn't believe a word of it. It's just hype to help Obama. [:D]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534
    edited November -1
    Thinking that the truth, no matter how inconvenient, will see the light of day soon.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I wonder if the reassignment of an Admiral, Commander of the USS Stennis Strike Group is part of this fall out/scapegoat.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/Stennis-admiral-reassigned-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-judgment-176099991.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n

    I have no way of knowing but I wouldn't be surprised.

    I'm not a big believer in conspiracies, especially when I can't see where somebody would profit from it, but it certainly appears to me that somebody is trying to demoralize the State Department and Department of Defense.

    It almost appears the Ambassador was set up. He was in a place where he had reason to believe there would be an attack, he knew there had been threats against his life, he had been refused security personnel and lost most of the security he had. The people security was farmed out to were a subgroup of the group who attacked the embassy.

    I don't know what happened anymore than anyone else knows, but I do know something stinks to high heaven.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I wonder if the reassignment of an Admiral, Commander of the USS Stennis Strike Group is part of this fall out/scapegoat.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/Stennis-admiral-reassigned-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-judgment-176099991.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n

    I have no way of knowing but I wouldn't be surprised.

    I'm not a big believer in conspiracies, especially when I can't see where somebody would profit from it, but it certainly appears to me that somebody is trying to demoralize the State Department and Department of Defense.

    It almost appears the Ambassador was set up. He was in a place where he had reason to believe there would be an attack, he knew there had been threats against his life, he had been refused security personnel and lost most of the security he had. The people security was farmed out to were a subgroup of the group who attacked the embassy.

    I don't know what happened anymore than anyone else knows, but I do know something stinks to high heaven.
    +1000
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • MtnSpurMtnSpur Member Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We may never get the truth but this you can take to the bank:

    If it started in Chicago under the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine and floated east to Washington D.C. IT WILL SMELL up the joint and no amount of air freshener will hide the stench.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I wonder if the reassignment of an Admiral, Commander of the USS Stennis Strike Group is part of this fall out/scapegoat.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/Stennis-admiral-reassigned-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-judgment-176099991.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n

    I have no way of knowing but I wouldn't be surprised.

    I'm not a big believer in conspiracies, especially when I can't see where somebody would profit from it, but it certainly appears to me that somebody is trying to demoralize the State Department and Department of Defense.

    It almost appears the Ambassador was set up. He was in a place where he had reason to believe there would be an attack, he knew there had been threats against his life, he had been refused security personnel and lost most of the security he had. The people security was farmed out to were a subgroup of the group who attacked the embassy.

    I don't know what happened anymore than anyone else knows, but I do know something stinks to high heaven.
    +1000
    x10... Agreed...
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This will blow over like his entire Presidency.
  • pirate2501pirate2501 Member Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Commander in Chief will prevail - the General will be relieved (and take his retirement or lose it)
  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most of you guys believe he got Bin Laden just because he says so. No evidence and dumped the body in the ocean.

    Why not believe everything he tells you based only on his good word?
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    James, I think you and I both believe the same person![;)]
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sav99
    Most of you guys believe he got Bin Laden just because he says so. No evidence and dumped the body in the ocean.

    Why not believe everything he tells you based only on his good word?

    A month ago I would have told you, because I trust Senior Flag and General Officers. Several times I have seen them tell the truth when it wasn't in their own best interest to do so.

    After watching the retired General kiss * and eat poop tonight on Geraldo Rivera's Show I'm forced to say you have a point, and maybe that would bear checking out too.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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