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DOD vehicle registration and ID cards

JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
edited June 2017 in General Discussion
For a bunch of years you had to have your vehicle registered with DOD to drive on a military installation. Your registration (windshield sticker) and ID card were checked at the gate and you were waved through. A minor pain in the butt, but no big deal.

About a year ago I was told all vehicles had to be reregistered under the new system, so I went to the Pass Office to get it over with. They wanted my windshield sticker back and put all my paperwork into the computer. Quick and easy.

I asked the little old lady in tennis shoes when this registration would expire. She said she had no way of knowing and as far as she knew it was good forever.

A couple of weeks ago I stopped by the Pass Office to register the Silverado. This time the little old lady told me the registration was good until May of 2022. She told me they don't actually check registration anymore. You go through the gate based on your ID card only. You can be driving any vehicle, registered or not.

I told her that sounded to me like there is no reason to register now. She gave me a short speech in doubletalk about why it is absolutely necessary to register. I told her I didn't understand so she gave me the same speech again in the same doubletalk and I dropped the subject.

Then as an oh by the way she told me my ID Card would be useless soon because it has my socialist security number on it. I called the Personnel Office and asked if I needed an appointment to get an ID Card. The young lady on the phone said they do take walk-ins but it is much better to have an appointment. By the time I got there it was by appointment only.

Does anybody out there know what the real deal is?
The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.

Comments

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On FT Bragg they don't do the windshield sticker pass thing anymore. That ended around 2007.

    Now it is show your ID and they scan it at the gate. If you are not Active, retired, NG/RES I am not sure what the do. I have taken my Dad on Bragg and I just show my ID and his Driver Lic.
    RLTW

  • TombstonejimTombstonejim Member Posts: 190
    edited November -1
    You do not need the windshield sticker any more. Unless you live or work on the installation and the installation commander requires it.

    Most gave it up as too expensive.

    As far as ID card. If you have an indef retired card getting a new one is optional.

    http://www.cac.mil/docs/SSNReductionTrifold_201409.pdf
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have to register my car on the base where I live, but I have it registered on WNY where I work sometimes. Not a sticker, but a placard you put on your dash. They had to do it that way because pentagon employees were taking advantage of the free parking there and taking the metro to the pentagon.
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know at my base you don't register your vehicle anymore, no more sticker either. Id card only, and a valid Id for those old enough to have one
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tombstonejim
    You do not need the windshield sticker any more. Unless you live or work on the installation and the installation commander requires it.

    Most gave it up as too expensive.

    As far as ID card. If you have an indef retired card getting a new one is optional.

    http://www.cac.mil/docs/SSNReductionTrifold_201409.pdf

    That's about the way I thought it should be. I'm a little surprised DOD doesn't have a uniform standard for all of DOD.

    The way I read it I have until 2022 to get a new I. D. Card, but since I already have an appointment I'll go ahead and do it now.

    Thanks for the replies.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    On FT Bragg they don't do the windshield sticker pass thing anymore. That ended around 2007.

    Now it is show your ID and they scan it at the gate. If you are not Active, retired, NG/RES I am not sure what the do. I have taken my Dad on Bragg and I just show my ID and his Driver Lic.




    Yep, and as of late, many of the bases have established a trust the driver policy meaning only the driver must show ID.

    Wow, Bragg and Fayetteville. Thank God my time there was short.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got my new I.D. card at the Army National Guard Headquarters at Raleigh, NC. They have a pretty nice place there. They have more parking spaces for General Officers than I thought there were General Officers in the National Guard. I didn't count them but there was a bunch and then some. If you aren't a General or handicapped, figure on doing some walking.

    Back in the old days they put your thumb print on your I.D. card. They stopped doing that. I don't know why. Now they don't put it on the card but they take a print of your right trigger finger. I don't have fingerprints so the only bottleneck in the process was finding somebody with authority to override the system and issue a card without the print.

    My picture made me look like a bent over old man. I told the little girl I wanted a do over. I don't mind so much being a bent over old man but I don't want to look like one.

    She explained I.D. cards are a one shot deal. No do overs without a real reason. [:D]

    Overall I'll rate the NCNGHQ as a four star outfit. It looks to me like being in the military today would be interesting. Different, but interesting.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    just tell the gate you are a beginning muslim and they will roll out the red carpet not to offend
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO fingerprints James?

    What did you do work with Sulfuric Acid without the rubber gloves?
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    NO fingerprints James?

    What did you do work with Sulfuric Acid without the rubber gloves?

    The FBI says it's a common thing with old people, but mine have always been "unclassifiable". It always took forever and a day to get security clearance renewals.

    By the time I figured out I should have been a professional criminal they had DNA. Some of us just can't win. [:D]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    NO fingerprints James?

    What did you do work with Sulfuric Acid without the rubber gloves?


    They couldn't get readable prints from me when I got my CCP. They finally just gave up and issued. Even my computer says I have no prints.

    I did work for years in a lab with a lot of sulfuric acid.[:)]
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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    I got my new I.D. card at the Army National Guard Headquarters at Raleigh, NC. They have a pretty nice place there. They have more parking spaces for General Officers than I thought there were General Officers in the National Guard. I didn't count them but there was a bunch and then some. If you aren't a General or handicapped, figure on doing some walking.

    Back in the old days they put your thumb print on your I.D. card. They stopped doing that. I don't know why. Now they don't put it on the card but they take a print of your right trigger finger. I don't have fingerprints so the only bottleneck in the process was finding somebody with authority to override the system and issue a card without the print.

    My picture made me look like a bent over old man. I told the little girl I wanted a do over. I don't mind so much being a bent over old man but I don't want to look like one.

    She explained I.D. cards are a one shot deal. No do overs without a real reason. [:D]

    Overall I'll rate the NCNGHQ as a four star outfit. It looks to me like being in the military today would be interesting. Different, but interesting.



    James that is a nice facility. That is where my wife and I get our ID Cards. Mine as a retiree is Indef but she has to renew it every 6 years.
    RLTW

  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The same revised policies are at NAS Fallon, in Nevada. No more car stickers and just use your military ID to get into the base. They stopped putting SSAN on the cards a few years back to help protect people from identity theft. My indef retiree card does have two other unique numbers; a 10-digit DoD ID Number and an 11-digit Benefits Number. In the olden days, a sticker on your windshield was all you needed to drive onto the base. But, after security was enhanced, they started checking ID's. I guess they finally realized the cost waste of registering vehicles if they were already checking the identity of the occupants. About all the pass&ID shack at the front gate does now is process authorized visitors and commercial vehicles.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I joined the Navy I was given a seven digit Service Number. I was told to have it memorized before I got to the gate at NTC Great Lakes, IL. A while later they ran out of the seven digit numbers and my Navy didn't want to add a digit so they did the logical thing and substituted the letter "B" for the first digit. When they ran out of "B" numbers they used the rest of the alphabet. When the alphabet ran out they did the next logical thing. They started using Socialist Security numbers as Service Numbers. Now they have finally realized what a Charlie Foxtrot that was so they changed to a ten digit DOD ID NUMBER and an eleven digit BENEFITS NUMBER. Twenty-one digits.

    I sure am glad they avoided the administrative burden of adding a digit to the Service Numbers in the 1960s. At the time I thought it was an ill-advised or dim-witted move and now, fifty-some years later I still think the same thing.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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