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dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
edited January 2016 in General Discussion
I saw the video of the guy getting shot. Everyone assumes he was told to raise his hands. Supposed they asked him to throw the gun on the ground and then when he put his hands in his coat they shot him.

There is no way to know what went on at all.
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    MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He also could have been standing on a rock or downed branch, then dropped his hands to get balance. The gun behind him was not in danger, shot him in the back, no way he saw what his hand was doing.
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,372 ******
    edited November -1
    Look more closely and you will see that his reactions are to being shot. He's not putting hands in pockets or reaching for something... he's getting shot and his hands are naturally going to cover the wounds.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This will be interesting how fast the FBI can manufacture evidence. This could blowup in a hurry.

    Actions have consequences. If the FBI can't manufacture evidence quick enough, this will get ugly. If Greg Bretzing thought releasing a video from a mile high will justify a homicide, he might be wrong.
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    TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,560 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Government at work
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    woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 25,785
    edited November -1
    Exactly[:(!]quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Look more closely and you will see that his reactions are to being shot. He's not putting hands in pockets or reaching for something... he's getting shot and his hands are naturally going to cover the wounds.
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    move along citizen...nothing here to see....COMPLY OR DIE....isn't there an additional MEDAL for shooting in the back....when you cannot see the whites of their eyes ???
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    discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,421 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    that is my main question.. was he shot from the front FIRST by the officer directly to the rear of the van....quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Look more closely and you will see that his reactions are to being shot. He's not putting hands in pockets or reaching for something... he's getting shot and his hands are naturally going to cover the wounds.
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    discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,421 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the shooting done by the officer to the rear was completely justified, as the victim had turned to face him, all the while opening his coat and reaching across his body. his arms had changed position from a "pain" movement-holding his side- to one of an offensive movement facing the officer to his rear. that officer delivered the fatal shot.
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    This will be interesting how fast the FBI can manufacture evidence. This could blowup in a hurry.

    Actions have consequences. If the FBI can't manufacture evidence quick enough, this will get ugly. If Greg Bretzing thought releasing a video from a mile high will justify a homicide, he might be wrong.


    The FBI will have to wait and see what the POTUS and the AG tell them to say.
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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NWO order agenda by The United Nations,wake up your country is not for we the people it's for the oligarchic hierarchy that make new laws daily to control you freedoms and rights to their liking.

    Soon local gun laws to infringe on your second amendment and it will be sanction by The Supreme Court just like Abortion righst where instill by them! Wake up!

    serf
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    woodhogwoodhog Member Posts: 13,115 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    serf, tell the truth. Are you really that Cornelius West character?
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    JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's possible for everybody to be wrong at the same time. It looks like this is one of those times.

    The FBI gets paid to be professional. This didn't look like a professional operation to me. Finicum had been in the sovereign citizen Business long enough to know he was risking his life getting out of his truck and running, adding to the risk when he made questionable moves.

    I am dumbfounded, flabbergasted, that in a high profile case they had to know could be nationwide headlines, the FBI put the only camera in Oregon in an aircraft.

    For the question of it being a 'good shoot', when all the evidence is in, if a reasonable person in the same circumstances would think his or other's life is in danger, it's a good shoot.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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