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grumpygy
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Navy weighs contradictory possibility of atheist chaplain
6 hrs ago
Atheist chaplain: contradiction in terms? Jason Heap doesn't think so. The 38-year-old religious scholar says he wants to be the Navy's first humanist chaplain - and that religious faith isn't a prerequisite to work in the chaplaincy. Heap's application is nearly simultaneous with a Congressional effort to prevent the Pentagon from hiring chaplains who are nonbelievers: "The notion of an atheist chaplain is nonsensical," says the amendment's sponsor, Rep. John Fleming of Louisiana. But Heap says his goal is only to "serve others who share similar values and perspectives."
Navy weighs contradictory possibility of atheist chaplain
6 hrs ago
Atheist chaplain: contradiction in terms? Jason Heap doesn't think so. The 38-year-old religious scholar says he wants to be the Navy's first humanist chaplain - and that religious faith isn't a prerequisite to work in the chaplaincy. Heap's application is nearly simultaneous with a Congressional effort to prevent the Pentagon from hiring chaplains who are nonbelievers: "The notion of an atheist chaplain is nonsensical," says the amendment's sponsor, Rep. John Fleming of Louisiana. But Heap says his goal is only to "serve others who share similar values and perspectives."
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I've always felt Atheism was a form of religion, I've never run across anybody as fervent as a proclaimed Atheist pushing their beliefs and then belittling others of theirs if they disagree
I agree with you. I think people are missing a chance to kneecap the Atheists with this. If they can be chaplains, then theirs' is a belief set concerning religion. No one's belief set should trump someone else's.
If in the future they claim that something cannot be displayed because it would violate their beliefs, you tell that that all the things that are not displayed, are done so to honor the Atheists beliefs.
Display the 10 commandments on the left side of the courthouse wall, and when they *, you point to the right side of the wall where nothing are displayed, and say "There are your beliefs".
Fair for everyone. And then enjoy watching them try to argue against the display of nothing. [:0]
I am not a highly educated fella but if I am a atheist in the military all I have to do is not go see a man of any faith, why would I go visit another atheist, whats the point?
When they (the atheist soldier & atheist chaplain) are in a foxhole and the preparatory mortars are falling and an enemy charge is imminent I suppose they could light a candle and have a truth seeking vigil.
This is the most insane thing I have heard in the last 15 hrs! This is crazier than Shelia Jakson Lee being the new Big Sis.
Is not the Chaplain there to also Administer Last Rights.
Doesn't that take a Catholic priest since the last rights are part of that particular beliefs tenants?
quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
Is not the Chaplain there to also Administer Last Rights.
Doesn't that take a Catholic priest since the last rights are part of that particular beliefs tenants?
In the Absence of a Catholic Chaplain any chaplain can Administer Last Right they have all been trained in it. But one key Item must be there they must be men of faith. Not so sure I would like having a friend given last rights by an Atheist.
Am I in Bizarro world?
This is the most insane thing I have heard in the last 15 hrs! This is crazier than Shelia Jakson Lee being the new Big Sis.Not sure if it is crazier but sure is close.
http://www.fastcodesign.com/1672968/how-thors-hammer-made-its-way-onto-soldiers-headstones
Good read! I wonder if non-orthadox Jews can have $ instead of a star of David? [:p]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Just a minor point, it is not "last rights", it is "last rites". quite a bit of difference in the meaning. [:)]
I even did a web search cause it seemed wrong to me and each one of those came up with rights.
But.... not really in the eyes of the liberals currently in power. It should be no surprise to anyone liberals want to replace God with government.
A Chaplain can council a Jew, Christian or Muslim.
And I think there are a million subsets of each.
Or Baha'i or Hindi or a bunch of others.
It doesn't mean that a Chaplain has to believe all religions.
It means they have to be able to understand and support each serviceman's beliefs.
Regardless of their own beliefs or convictions.
I have no trouble with it.
I'm assuming that no one is proselytizing.
Just my 2 cents.
Woody
I've always felt Atheism was a form of religion, I've never run across anybody as fervent as a proclaimed Atheist pushing their beliefs and then belittling others of theirs if they disagree
I agree with you on this. Atheists claim they aren't a religion because they don't have a deity. I believe they have several deities to choose from, any or all of them. In any case they qualify in all other ways as a religion.
There are several reasons the armed forces shouldn't have atheist Chaplains. Very few military units have both a Christian and Jewish Chaplain. No military unit has a representative of all faiths. It's hard enough for Chaplains to fill in for one another for all the troops. The one thing the Jewish, Catholic and Protestant religions have in common is a faith in the same God. It would be impossible for most to accept an atheist as the Chaplain.
If a Chaplain is trying to comfort me at my time of death and I find out said Chaplain is an atheist or Satanist, I hate to think the final entry in my record would be "With his last dyeing breath he killed the Chaplain."