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EPA, Federal government, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

T J McGillT J McGill Member Posts: 99 ✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Cant believe I just watched a story on FOX about the EPA going to try to restrict back yard BBQ. The are actually planning on a new type grill to save the cook from the dangerous smoke and toxins coming from your grill! WHAT!!!!!
I think its TIME people! WE need to stand up and tell government to get the HELL out of our lives. I for one didn't sign the line to protect and defend my nation from all enemies foreign and domestic to turn around and give these ASSCLOWNS the power to tell me of what I can and can't do in my every day life. I mean, what was the sense in sacrificing several years of my life? This isn't a rant just over BBQ, this is all that has been building for years, we are no longer "LAND OF THE FREE HOME OF THE BRAVE" we have morphed into land of the free as long as you do as we say!
I had hope just before the mid term elections, I felt somewhat relieved with the outcome but still had my doubts, months later, these ASSCLOWNS are still giving obama what he wants. Maybe its time to fight back and save what's left of OUR Nation. A march on Washington and all major cities, use their tactics against them. Shut down commerce for a few days to take the tax dollars out of their pockets. Have conservative judges set up a escrow account for our everyday tax's, pay it but the government doesn't get it until they turn our Nation back to the right path.
I don't know the answer! I do know that time is not on our side any more! I do know way too many have paid the ultimate sacrifice from the birth of our Nation to present day to have it all turn into just another two bit social state!
I've lived fifty some years, I've lived a pretty good life, I can guarantee the day that I die I will still be a Patriotic American. The young will suffer though! I wasn't fortunate to have children of my own, to tell you the truth today, it almost seems a blessing. I wont have to worry about what my own will face in the future. If YOU have never thought about it, you need to start NOW! Do YOU want your children to live a life of Free Choice or do you want them to be enslaved to the government!
Call me crazy, an idiot, I don't care! I made the mistake of watching the news this morning and just in a disgusted mood! I know this has been going on for decades, but I sit here and think back to 2007, hope and change! I questioned what he wanted to change back then, I'm just little old no body, got no response! All I know is, we have gone full throttle to becoming a socialist state since he took office!!!!! Rant over.

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  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look at Australia for the example they want. All GAS BBQs, very few real grills!


    Screw that!


    Merc
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought this sounded ridiculous, so I looked up the story on Fox's website.

    The EPA awarded a grant for someone to develop a better grease pan. That's it....that's what you are freaking out over.

    The smoke that comes off of burnt grease is hazardous (and will ruin the flavor of your food). That's why we use grease pans in the first place.


    If you want to say that the EPA shouldn't be giving out grants for this type of product, that's fine.....but no one is trying to take away your grill (at least not yet)
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    here they started to let you burn paper only on saturdays.but you could bbq any day, a lot of use take a hotdog on a stick out and burn the paper, they don,t like it but we are follwing the ordanance. eastbank.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Had to go find this one:

    http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/index.cfm/fuseaction/display.abstractDetail/abstract/10266/report/0

    So it's a small grant to some university students to develop a filtering widget for propane BBQ's in Southern California's high population density cities.

    Here in Arizona we have long had "No Burn Days". Maricopa County will fine you up to $250 per citation.


    PS: Has ZERO to do with "full throttle to a Socialist state". It's not a socialism thing, it's a smelly Southern California thing.
  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    PS: Has ZERO to do with "full throttle to a Socialist state". It's not a socialism thing, it's a smelly Southern California thing.


    HAS EVERYTHING to do with California..

    Whay do you have all of the BS smog crap on car engines, Why did the two stroke motorcycle engine get banished?? Cant hardly pick up a roll of toilet paper without seeing "Known to cause cancer in the state of California"...

    What gets banned or restricted to the point of becoming useless in CA soon becomes "Law" for the rest of us.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No surprise here, Obama has filled key leadership positions in the EPA, with socialist partisan hacks.

    Same with the ATF. Partisan hacks in the ATF have the power to act without oversight.

    If you have a problem with EPA in your own back yard, try imagining what the EPA has done to manufacturing and other businesses. It should be no secret most of our manufacturing is outsourced.

    These unelected bureaucrats need to be stopped.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    No surprise here, Obama has filled key leadership positions in the EPA, with socialist partisan hacks.

    Same with the ATF. Partisan hacks in the ATF have the power to act without oversight.

    If you have a problem with EPA in your own back yard, try imagining what the EPA has done to manufacturing and other businesses. It should be no secret most of our manufacturing is outsourced.

    These unelected bureaucrats need to be stopped.




    And I'm certain that where ever the manufacturing has moved to has the most stringent pollution controls. So much like what we have seen with electric vehicles, instead of solving a problem as they advertise why we need to comply they have simply moved the problem from one place to another.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My answer is simple; less Federal government is the goal, and that ain't-ah-gonna-happen.

    So my solution, I refuse to comply with government BS to the best of my ability.

    Makes life a lot easier, for me at least.

    Screw em'.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    No surprise here, Obama has filled key leadership positions in the EPA, with socialist partisan hacks.

    Same with the ATF. Partisan hacks in the ATF have the power to act without oversight.

    If you have a problem with EPA in your own back yard, try imagining what the EPA has done to manufacturing and other businesses. It should be no secret most of our manufacturing is outsourced.

    These unelected bureaucrats need to be stopped.




    And I'm certain that where ever the manufacturing has moved to has the most stringent pollution controls. So much like what we have seen with electric vehicles, instead of solving a problem as they advertise why we need to comply they have simply moved the problem from one place to another.


    The same analogy applies to almost everything government meddles in.

    Our high corporate taxes is another cause of mass manufacturing exodus. At the micro level, the state of CO and NY have made magazines of greater than 5 rounds legal have caused companies like Magpul to leave. Berretta left MD due to odious laws passed by government.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mercury
    Look at Australia for the example they want. All GAS BBQs, very few real grills!


    Screw that!


    Merc


    [?] thats a new one to me...but if it is true then good luck to them trying to enforce it [:D]
  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FRACK the EPA...[}:)]

    Trinity +++
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    I read an interesting article, and now I forgot where, that the U.S. doesn't have three divisions of government, as originally chartered, but four. The fourth is the Bureaucracy, which the other three divisions are unwilling or unable to rein in.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by machine gun moran
    I read an interesting article, and now I forgot where, that the U.S. doesn't have three divisions of government, as originally chartered, but four. The fourth is the Bureaucracy, which the other three divisions are unwilling or unable to rein in.


    ^^^___ Truth Right There ___^^^
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seems some are over looking the Muslims in his inter circle and that scares me more
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reading some post on here really F...'s up my blood pressure [:D]. I'm close enough to the end that somethings won't/don't matter to me but I feel extremely sad for the future of my kids and grandkids, they don't know what real freedom is like we do and what they've lost, they just can't visualize it when I explain the difference in "then" & "now" [:(].

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • T J McGillT J McGill Member Posts: 99 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
    Reading some post on here really F...'s up my blood pressure [:D]. I'm close enough to the end that somethings won't/don't matter to me but I feel extremely sad for the future of my kids and grandkids, they don't know what real freedom is like we do and what they've lost, they just can't visualize it when I explain the difference in "then" & "now" [:(].

    That's the whole reason for my post, some here, I guess go through life with blinders on, think my rant is about a bbq grill. It is up to us to straighten this crap out for the future generations! I do have nieces and nephews that have babies of their own, if this keeps up I hate to imagine what the future holds for them!
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't find where anybody other than Congress has the authority to make law. Call it rules and regulations if you wish, but it has the weight and force of law. It is law.

    I can't find where Congress has the authority to delegate its authority to make law.

    If the Judiciary branch knew its job and would grow a set and do that job, we would instantly be rid of most of the laws (i.e. rules and regulations) on the books today. To quote bpost, ain't-ah-gonna-happen.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • mango tangomango tango Member Posts: 3,833 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If every country in the world was held to the same standards, then it would have some meaning, but when you have countries like China and India, with 4 Billion people polluting the air with all their factories, and have no laws against it, then take your BBQ laws and stick them where the sun don't shine!

    At what point is a Govt considered a Tyrannical Govt?
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    I can't find where anybody other than Congress has the authority to make law. Call it rules and regulations if you wish, but it has the weight and force of law. It is law.

    I can't find where Congress has the authority to delegate its authority to make law.


    The Executive Branch is empowered to enforce the laws which are written by Congress. To enforce the law requires certain rules/regulations put in place. Anyone who feels that the Executive Branch has overstepped the scope of the law can challenge the regulation (or the law itself) in court.
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