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Armed Robber killed by another criminal

shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
Tee hee, I find this ironic.

http://controversialtimes.com/news/armed-robber-killed-by-armed-citizen-now-the-robbers-family-is-protesting-calling-for-justice-video/





Tamon Stapleton. age 18, from Knoxville, Tennessee was in the process of committing an armed robbery earlier this year when he was shot and killed by an armed citizen.

Stapleton was shot and killed by Isaac Scruggs. Scruggs is a convicted felon, however authorities decided not to charge him for possession of a firearm since he acted in defense of the store clerk. Stapleton was holding a loaded gun to the clerk's head.

Now, his mother, Joy Stapleton, other family members, and members of the community are calling for "justice" and asking that the good Samaritan who shot him be charged with murder. The group held a candlelight vigil and a protest calling for justice outside of the store where he was killed.

"Of course it hurts my heart. My son is dead when easily 911 could have been called and he could possibly be in jail right now. I'm hurt. I'm hurt," she said to WATE.


I particularly enjoyed this quote. I reckon it should be illegal to defend yourself, you should have to call 911. Maybe if Mom had raised her child right he wouldn't have gotten smoked sticking up a Stop and Rob.

Comments

  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    Always amusing that 911 is one digit short of 1911,,,,,,,[:D][:o)]
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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've long advocated for the full restoration of rights for ex-offenders once incarceration and parole are satisfied.

    It is good to hear that there was not an illegal possession charge here.

    Frankly it took a lot of guts for Scruggs to step in. He did not have to do so. He knew full well he could be charged, convicted and jailed for just having the pistol.

    Yet this evil ex-offender took a greater risk than any of us, and dispatched the bad guy.

    Bravo Zulu to Isaac Scruggs.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Normally I want felons jailed for posession of a gun, less they have had their rights restored by a court.

    Sounds like this felon has gone a long way in proving himself worthy of having all rights restored. Saved a life and cleansed the gene pool a bit at the same time. Better than a letter of reference from the prison warden!
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How did I know..............[:0]
    RLTW

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    Interesting,,,,,,,,if a civil suit is filed how/what does the defense argue.


    The defense's challenge will be about as difficult as the challenge faced by the plaintiff.

    'If it please the court, my client was in the process of armed robbery and had a pistol to the head of a merchant when victimized by the defendant.....'

    I'm thinking a jury is not going to be very sympathetic.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I've long advocated for the full restoration of rights for ex-offenders once incarceration and parole are satisfied.

    It is good to hear that there was not an illegal possession charge here.

    Frankly it took a lot of guts for Scruggs to step in. He did not have to do so. He knew full well he could be charged, convicted and jailed for just having the pistol.

    Yet this evil ex-offender took a greater risk than any of us, and dispatched the bad guy.

    Bravo Zulu to Isaac Scruggs.


    Either that or he was pissed because he was about to rob the place and this jack hole beat him to it. [;)]
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good for Mr. Scruggs!
    I bet Al is gashing his teeth that Scruggs wasn't White.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I've long advocated for the full restoration of rights for ex-offenders once incarceration and parole are satisfied.

    It is good to hear that there was not an illegal possession charge here.

    Frankly it took a lot of guts for Scruggs to step in. He did not have to do so. He knew full well he could be charged, convicted and jailed for just having the pistol.

    Yet this evil ex-offender took a greater risk than any of us, and dispatched the bad guy.

    Bravo Zulu to Isaac Scruggs.


    I fully agree.

    If you are too dangerous to carry a gun, you are too dangerous to be release from your incarceration.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any good Samaritan is no criminal..
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is a win win situation. Bad guy dead, felon goes back. He has no money since he has been in prison.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,272 ******
    edited November -1
    "... members of the community are calling for "justice"
    Justice was served. Case closed.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Damn American Indians at it again. I say burn their damn tee pees.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If Scruggs had done this in NJ instead of Tennessee they would have already tried him and given him 3 life sentences.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    This is a win win situation. Bad guy dead, felon goes back. He has no money since he has been in prison.


    A felon that has done his time.

    I am curious what his felony conviction was for though.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't believe Felons are allowed to possess firearms. Since he had a firearm and shot and killed the crook, that would be manslaughter or murder. So sad so bad. Do not pass go.. straight back to Prison. Maybe the locals let him pass but I highly doubt the Feds will. Good luck with that.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I don't believe Felons are allowed to possess firearms. Since he had a firearm and shot and killed the crook, that would be manslaughter or murder. So sad so bad. Do not pass go.. straight back to Prison. Maybe the locals let him pass but I highly doubt the Feds will. Good luck with that.


    It's in Tennessee where people still have some common sense.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kquote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I don't believe Felons are allowed to possess firearms. Since he had a firearm and shot and killed the crook, that would be manslaughter or murder. So sad so bad. Do not pass go.. straight back to Prison. Maybe the locals let him pass but I highly doubt the Feds will. Good luck with that.


    It's in Tennessee where people still have some common sense.





    Debt paid. Rights reinstated. That is the correct way to do it.

    Seems like common sense to me.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    I don't believe Felons are allowed to possess firearms. Since he had a firearm and shot and killed the crook, that would be manslaughter or murder. So sad so bad. Do not pass go.. straight back to Prison. Maybe the locals let him pass but I highly doubt the Feds will. Good luck with that.


    Knoxville should just declare itself a Sanctuary City. The Feds are powerless there.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    I can sympathize somewhat with the idea that having served your time you should be 100% free and clear as anyone else. Problem is that punishment is not reform and recidivism is all too common.

    Except in event of parole our system does not assess trustworthiness. When we let someone out after serving their time, we are not saying that we trust them. In fact we are saying we do not trust them but cannot hold them any longer.

    Until we come up with a better system we should stick with the restrictions on ex-felons. With the provision of being always able to petition a court for restoration.

    One thing we could do is for those who win parole, completing the parole period successfully should be an automatic restoration of rights. That one makes immediate sense. Prisoner demonstrated enough trustworthiness to be released early, lived up to limits set down for him to prove himself. Heck yeah, all rights should be restored in such a case.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I feel her pain. Tamon was such a nice boy and was molested as a youngster. Maybe she will get $1M for wrongful death and Isaac will get 20 years for saving a life. This is one f****d up country.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mah boy dindu nuffin!
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