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did you fire a LAW in training?

scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
edited January 2012 in General Discussion
We got to see one fired...LOL.
If I had ever had to fire one in combat conditions I would have been SOL.
We got to play with the empty. Back then they were about a grand, now they cost 4k a piece!!!
Why doesn't our military adopt a cheap rpg like the Russian design?
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  • CSI21CSI21 Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I fired a Law practice round thingy in basic, lots of LAWs in real training, along with the AT4, and 5 TOW missle shots, not counting mortars and heavy machine guns. Forgot about the 203 rounds, hundreds of them.
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  • CSI21CSI21 Member Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Scott, the russians actually copied the LAW and use that, the RPG is still made and is the weapon of choice for most foriegn countries, the LAW replica is not normally shipped outside of the Russian zone.
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  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was in the Air Force i played with a few missiles. OK all i did was pull the safety pins and put them in when the planes came back. Does that count. LOL
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  • proappproapp Member Posts: 3,264
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dav1965
    I was in the Air Force i played with a few missiles. OK all i did was pull the safety pins and put them in when the planes came back. Does that count. LOL


    bb stacker.....
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  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Watched them fired during demo in AIT at Ft. Lewis. We had some in Vietnam, but I never used them.
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got to fire one real one in training at a tank hull. I missed. [:D] They were good for other uses than armored vehicles. They could do a pretty good job on a bunker or an ammo depot. I always thought of them as a one-shot artillery piece. The biggest disadvantage I saw in a one-shot system was that you had no opportunity to adjust fire, like you had with mortars or FA.
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  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw Dirty Harry fire one in a movie once.
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  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,210 ******
    edited November -1
    yep,in basic training '77 Ft.Leonard Wood,Mo.
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CSI21
    Scott, the russians actually copied the LAW and use that, the RPG is still made and is the weapon of choice for most foriegn countries, the LAW replica is not normally shipped outside of the Russian zone.

    did they copy the old one?
    Do we have a reloadable RPG? in our arsenal?
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Didn't screw around with that small caliber stuff. It was 155MM or nothing.
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  • JasonVJasonV Member Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We each got to fire one in 1985 in Basic Training.
    formerly known as warpig883
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  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never fired a law...the only "ordnance" type weapon I have ever got to fire was the grenade laucher attached to the bottom of an M-16...that was cool...I hit the old dummy tank with it.[:)]
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, that'll stop a tank. [:p][:p]
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  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    l worked at Training Aids for the Army @ Ft Gordon Ga

    They had a Mod to a spent LAWS tube that was used to fire an empty

    COKE can using a 209 primer. The can would go for about 50 ft.

    Great place to work. Getting paid to make toys [^]
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  • jev1969jev1969 Member Posts: 2,691
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    We got to see one fired...LOL.
    If I had ever had to fire one in combat conditions I would have been SOL.
    We got to play with the empty. Back then they were about a grand, now they cost 4k a piece!!!
    Why doesn't our military adopt a cheap rpg like the Russian design?


    4K? I gotta dig through some old stuff. [:p]


    Buy it now for $379.00
    You got me all excited for a minute there. [V]
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jev1969
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    We got to see one fired...LOL.
    If I had ever had to fire one in combat conditions I would have been SOL.
    We got to play with the empty. Back then they were about a grand, now they cost 4k a piece!!!
    Why doesn't our military adopt a cheap rpg like the Russian design?


    4K? I gotta dig through some old stuff. [:p]


    Buy it now for $379.00
    You got me all excited for a minute there. [V]

    I'm talking about a loaded tube, unfired.
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    We fired a lot of em when I was in Vietnam,, Then we used the empties to carry beer in...Black Label, Nasty beer, but about all we could get cause the good stuff dissapeared in port..
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  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some guys had all the fun and no I didn't even see one.We only had one with full auto capability M 14. The Capt got to shoot it one time to demonstrate it to us Peons
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The price on the M72 was MUCH lower than that- right about $1,000. Yes, we fired live rounds in training. There is also a subcaliber adapter (M190)used to fire a 35 mm training rocket. Cheaper, reuse the launcher, fewer problems with UXO laying downrange.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We were only demonstrated it, 1 guy got to shoot a live on at a tank hull....they were simple, I doubt it would have been a problem to use..
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • J 1357J 1357 Member Posts: 283 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fired laws at Fort Benning Georgia. Also ran an M60 machine gun range at Leonard Wood.
    Safety officer on 155 sp's, fired 105 recoiless. M79 grenade launcher, full auto M14, 80 mm mortars and the ma deuce 50 cal machine gun...
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  • drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496 ✭
    edited November -1
    Infantry AIT at Fort Polk in 1969 they selected one man per platoon (thats 4 or 5) in our company to fire live. Was lucky enough to be one of them. Never fired another. Remember the the cut fingers on those that didn't pay attention from extending the tubes with a finger in the wrong place.[:0]
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  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, but I OICd a few AT-4 ranges.


    I did blow up many tons of explosives (or RSO/OICd the ranges). It's pretty neat what you can do with a claymore.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cce1302
    No, but I OICd a few AT-4 ranges.


    I did blow up many tons of explosives (or RSO/OICd the ranges). It's pretty neat what you can do with a claymore.

    I used to like cratering charges [:D] them cans of chicken poop would make it rain dirt...[:D]
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • sgm hagsgm hag Member Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    I saw Dirty Harry fire one in a movie once.

    Rambo fired one out of his downed helo...but, with a 25meter kill range behind the weapon from backblast, a real LAW would have empied the aircraft. So much for movies.
    I liked the thing. You could hump three going out on patrol and take on anything you encountered. Then throw down the empty and run away. Whereas with a RPG, you had to carry it back too.
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  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fired a LAW in basic training. I think they were duds tho for all it did when you hit a tank was make a puff of white smoke.

    Best one was when we got to set off a Claymore during Phase testing. A few got a NoGo for not carrying the "clacker" with them down range when they set the mine up.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
    Fired a LAW in basic training. I think they were duds tho for all it did when you hit a tank was make a puff of white smoke.

    Best one was when we got to set off a Claymore during Phase testing. A few got a NoGo for not carrying the "clacker" with them down range when they set the mine up.

    I got to give a butter bar LT a heap of poop for the same thing, he figured since the tester was plugged into it, it was safe to leave it on the wire.....
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • arraflipperarraflipper Member Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Didn't have any LAW around but got to fire the 3.5 mm the old Bazooka. Got to fire three rounds to qualify. There were a couple other people that were supposed to fire it, to qualify. It was a hot day they didn't want to so I qualified for all three of us. Once you found the range they were pretty accurate. They had old tanks mostly what was left of the tanks, not hard to hit them at all. One of the better days in the service.
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  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    I got to give a butter bar LT a heap of poop for the same thing, he figured since the tester was plugged into it, it was safe to leave it on the wire.....
    Don


    We were told to carry it at all times due to a few "accidents" during the Vietnam war.
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by arraflipper
    Didn't have any LAW around but got to fire the 3.5 mm the old Bazooka. Got to fire three rounds to qualify. There were a couple other people that were supposed to fire it, to qualify. It was a hot day they didn't want to so I qualified for all three of us. Once you found the range they were pretty accurate. They had old tanks mostly what was left of the tanks, not hard to hit them at all. One of the better days in the service.

    3.5 mm? Now that's a teeeennny tiny bazooka. [:D][:D] You could use that to take out toy tanks. [;)]
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    I got to give a butter bar LT a heap of poop for the same thing, he figured since the tester was plugged into it, it was safe to leave it on the wire.....
    Don


    We were told to carry it at all times due to a few "accidents" during the Vietnam war.

    It is a 1 cap blasting machine, (a squad demo kit had 10 cap machines) you never leave a blasting machine on the wire while you set charges........when they said we were going to learn demo, I started reading the TM's [;)]
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We had AT-4s at SOI....one guy in the class got to fire it at a tank hull (he missed, if I remember correctly)


    They had several rigged up to fire 9mm tracer rnds, which is what the rest of us fired......pretty lame
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