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Can I ask few dumb Questions

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
#1 How can China Drill for oil 60 miles off the FLA coast line and we (THE U.S.) can't?

#2 Cuba is along side of them drilling. If a major spill happens, who cleans it up if it hit the FLA coast? China is a polluter, Cuba doesn't have financial resources being almost as poor as Haiti. just who will pick up the tab?

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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, you are a Mod. Don
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    1) china isnt bound by green peace legislation.

    2) we will have to clean it up, costing millions and millions of dollars.
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,244 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    What KEVD18 said.
  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My .02

    #1 China stays in international waters so they cannot be accused of violating anything. We will never drill again as long as you have Dems and Enviros running the show. They want to pursue alternative energy which is all good and well, but it will not be viable for another decade or so...we need oil during that time.

    #2. If a spill hits our soil...we...as in taxpayers...will pay for it. Our govt will not go after any other country to pay for their accident.

    On a side note, I caught a segment on the news this afternoon where some Dem leaders are talking about having the feds take over the refineries to control them. Yeah...lets have the feds take over and really screw things up.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Well, you are a Mod. Don


    Help me here, don Why are we not drilling?

    quote: 1) china isnt bound by green peace legislation.

    I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    #1 How can China Drill for oil 60 miles off the FLA coast line and we (THE U.S.) can't?

    Ask the democrats.

    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    #2 Cuba is along side of them drilling. If a major spill happens, who cleans it up if it hit the FLA coast? China is a polluter, Cuba doesn't have financial resources being almost as poor as Haiti. just who will pick up the tab?


    Take a big guess.
  • zr700zr700 Member Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another good reason we need to pump our oil from Alaska. I know these rigs can drill at an angle and aroud corners, till we get around to drilling in Alaska Russia will have pumped it all out!
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Well, you are a Mod. Don


    Help me here, don Why are we not drilling?


    We are too concerned about possible pollution and almost endangered worthless creatures. Also, the oil companies are enjoying outrageous profits now so why put more money in exploration and stand the chance of the price going down? I know of no company that wants to make less money. Don
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    are there any Gearings still in mothballs?

    if a "pirate" blew up their little rigs they can't blame the US, can they? *hint hint*

    I'd volunteer to do a little pirating [;)]
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Florida GOP, until recently, hasn't exactly been friendly to drilling interests....the usual NIMBY routine
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    The Florida GOP, until recently, hasn't exactly been friendly to drilling interests....the usual NIMBY routine


    Same along the west coast. But yet you can't see an oil rig 60-70 miles away (easily) and that seems to be one of the beefs here.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF

    Same along the west coast. But yet you can't see an oil rig 60-70 miles away (easily) and that seems to be one of the beefs here.


    The Chinese are drilling 60 miles off the Florida coast.......but from what I understand, thats within Cuban waters.

    We could drill 30 miles off our coast but, until recently, that was unexceptable to most of the power-brokers in Florida....Dem and GOP alike
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    The squeeky wheel gets the grease and unfortunately the liberal eco-idiots cry louder than we do.[xx(][V][:(!]
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    1) china isnt bound by bullschit green peace legislation.

    2) we will have to clean it up, costing millions and millions of dollars.

    DITTO......
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...

    i didnt say a bloody thing about protesters, i was talking about legislation. our citizenship, as a whole and by way of the electoral process, is limiting or prohibiting exploitation of our own resources. apparently 5 dollar gasoline doesnt hurt them enough. maybe 10 dollar gas will...
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...
    I think the Chinese would use those little rubber boats for target practice
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...
    I think the Chinese would use those little rubber boats for target practice


    good!
    technically they're still US citizens (greenpeace guys that is), that would give us an excuse to torpedo the asiatic bahsturds!!!
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...

    i didnt say a bloody thing about protesters, i was talking about legislation. our citizenship, as a whole and by way of the electoral process, is limiting or prohibiting exploitation of our own resources. apparently 5 dollar gasoline doesnt hurt them enough. maybe 10 dollar gas will...


    Here is what I am getting at
    quote: 1) china isnt bound by bullschit green peace legislation.

    If the US were to do the same, "In the same waters" "green peace" and all the other radical environmental wackos would be all over it.

    I am not fighting you KEVD18.[:)] Just the idea oil prices are high, the US gets guff and grief for exploring and looking in our own back yard- Yet other countries get to explore and tap resources under our nose with no environmental responsibly that You and Will pay for.
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I seem to remember in the not too distant past that we had a Republican President and a Republican majority in the House and Senate; and we still couldn't drill. And, to compound the problem, it seemed that the majority of the Joe and Jane Six-packs out there couldn't have cared less, but now that the cost at the pump is cutting into their beer money they seem to have awakened; much to the consternation of the Democrats!

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dheffley
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    #1 How can China Drill for oil 60 miles off the FLA coast line and we (THE U.S.) can't?

    Ask the democrats.

    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    #2 Cuba is along side of them drilling. If a major spill happens, who cleans it up if it hit the FLA coast? China is a polluter, Cuba doesn't have financial resources being almost as poor as Haiti. just who will pick up the tab?


    Take a big guess.


    They better learn to care if they like their sweet cushy jobs. Nancy Pelosi better tighten her jock strap aqnd get a clue real fast. IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID. I love O'bama's response "OH it's too hard. We won't see any oil for at least 7 years." Well it's sure is a good thing this moron wasn't President during WWII. He'd be saying "OH defeating Hitler is too hard. It's going to take a real long time. Can't we just get a long"

    We're the United States of America. We do what other nations say s "too hard" We are the third largest oil producer in the world. We can produce more.

    Drill here. Drill now.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's Obama's fault.
  • mr_floppymr_floppy Member Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's stopping oil corporations from drilling outside territorial waters ?


    Or is that a stupid question also?
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by medic07
    My .02

    #1 China stays in international waters so they cannot be accused of violating anything. We will never drill again as long as you have Dems and Enviros running the show. They want to pursue alternative energy which is all good and well, but it will not be viable for another decade or so...we need oil during that time.#2. If a spill hits our soil...we...as in taxpayers...will pay for it. Our govt will not go after any other country to pay for their accident.

    On a side note, I caught a segment on the news this afternoon where some Dem leaders are talking about having the feds take over the refineries to control them. Yeah...lets have the feds take over and really screw things up.


    From what I understand, even if we start drilling now in Anwar and other places, it will be at least ten years until that oil hits the market.
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1

    Originally posted by FrancF

    I haven't seen green peace bugging the Chinese oil drillers in little rubber boats...
    The Chinese will shoot missiles at the green peace activists if they get in the way of the drilling!
  • Da-TankDa-Tank Member Posts: 3,718 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    " The oil won't hit the market for 10 years" a quote to make you wait. If we'd started 6 years ago we'd only be 4 years from haveing it. But people who think like today, not 10 years from now will have us wait 10 more years to start drilling, there for making it 20 years.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Can I ask few dumb Questions

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  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mr_floppy
    What's stopping oil corporations from drilling outside territorial waters ?


    Or is that a stupid question also?


    I'm sure some are doing it already.....somewhere like the North Sea perhaps.

    I assume the problem is once you get so many miles offshore that water just gets too deep.
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