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my thoughts on trump
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no I don't think he should be president
but however I think he needs our support, he needs the support to keep running his mouth and bringing up topics and concerns that others don't have the nads to say, and I believe by doing this he will bring these issues to the forefront in the final debates, and if his issues get the proper support maybe just maybe others wont be so pc during the final presidential debates
love him or hate him you have to admit no other politician in decades has been so outspoken on issues we here mostly agree on
but however I think he needs our support, he needs the support to keep running his mouth and bringing up topics and concerns that others don't have the nads to say, and I believe by doing this he will bring these issues to the forefront in the final debates, and if his issues get the proper support maybe just maybe others wont be so pc during the final presidential debates
love him or hate him you have to admit no other politician in decades has been so outspoken on issues we here mostly agree on
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2. He is extremely smart and uses the laws to his favor when it benefits him. There is nothing wrong with that. Rich people always uses loopholes.
3. They say he is a workaholic. That he usually works 12 hours a day.
4. They say that he has a knack at putting the right person in the right job.
5. Now if he puts the right people in the right jobs AND listens to them he should do great.
6. With a huge ego you know he is not wanting to be a bad president. Not with his pride.
7. Now we will have to see what happens but i do think he will work his butt of for the country.
no I don't think he should be president
but however I think he needs our support, he needs the support to keep running his mouth and bringing up topics and concerns that others don't have the nads to say, and I believe by doing this he will bring these issues to the forefront in the final debates, and if his issues get the proper support maybe just maybe others wont be so pc during the final presidential debates
love him or hate him you have to admit no other politician in decades has been so outspoken on issues we here mostly agree on
I have no doubt he said it,I just wonder why,while trying to get the GOP nomination,he's totally changed his mind on both subjects?
Sounds like just another pol saying what WE want to hear,only to turn coat after elected.
I know what it takes to become a billionaire.I'm just not willing to cheat,lie and ruin/step on thousands of good people to get there!!
W.D.
If he does, the Republicans will lose due to the split vote, and America is finished.
I don't mind him running and expressing opinions that the majority of Americans agree with, but when it comes time to realize someone like Walker or Rubio are going to get the nomination, I pray that he will drop out and throw his full support to the winner.
Don't be fooled by main stream media into thinking Hillary is slipping in the polls and the media is turning against her. The highs and lows are diversionary tactics used to generate funds for her campaign and consolidate her base. Hillary has absolute control over Main Stream Media.
Not much is absolute in politics, except when the socialist party selects their nominee, everyone will band together and offer 100% total support and vote for their nominee. A major difference between the republicans and the socialists.
He is speaking the truth others avoid.
That said, I think he is willing to say things that politicians who rely on other people's money are not willing to discuss.
On the other hand he is just one of many problems the Republicans seem unwilling or unable to address.
My fear would be that the failure to address issues with voters will push the election into the hands of the other party.
Republicans who talk of cutting Social Security/medicare and reducing taxes on the wealthiest earners. People who contributed throughout their lifetime, they have lost the vote of these Seniors. My mother keeps saying that he she hears "Entitlement" one more time....
A very large voting block.
Republican's have alienated a large portion of young females.
Republican's have alienated the Rainbow coalition.
Republicans have not done well with minority voters, Black and Latino.
Republican's despite the protest of the hardest core right leaning tea party folks or "Constitutional Conservatives" will need to talk to voters about how this time trickle down will work, how they will repeal ACA BUT make something work, how Seniors who have already reached or are approaching retirement age will be addressed.
Simply saying that a Brick layer is going to have to work until he is 70 but reducing taxes for the wealthiest Americans is not going to work.
My .02 cents
And so would it be a bad thing to have three parties?
As I stated: quote:If he does, the Republicans will lose due to the split vote, and America is finished.
He's not going to take votes from the Social'rats, he will take them from the Republicans.
If you want to see Hilly in the Presidency in 2017, vote for Trump, or Ron Paul, or Bo Gritz.
He is not speaking from conviction, as his stated views are different than what he has stated in the past.
If speaking from conviction, where was it when he support Reid, Pelosi and Hilary in the past?
I hesitate the say it because he seems to have some support on this forum, but he is merely playing to the low information, knee-jerk reaction crowd, and is succeeding.
Brad Steele
He is saying what people want to hear, nothing more.
He is not speaking from conviction, as his stated views are different than what he has stated in the past.
If speaking from conviction, where was it when he support Reid, Pelosi and Hilary in the past?
I hesitate the say it because he seems to have some support on this forum, but he is merely playing to the low information, knee-jerk reaction crowd, and is succeeding.
Agreed.
My concern is a straightforward one. The claim is often made, with the numbers to back it up, that the fastest growing portion of the voting age population are Latino / Hispanic Citizens. If the GOP is to win and have the support to do anything, insulting those people is reckless and likely suicidal. In terms of votes on Election Day that is.
There are angles to approach the Border issues from which would win the support of this group. That is support in favor of Security, not against it.
Such discussions are commonly shouted down, because they require detailed thought and planning. The typical GOP candidate has no time for such, nor does he or she believe their voting base has the interest or intellect to follow along either.
This makes Trump dangerous to success in the next Presidential for any right wing candidate.
Trump is a comforting figure to left wingers everywhere.
if that's the case, he wouldn't be taking away Republican votes, he IS the republican votes.
he only takes Republican votes if he doesn't get the nomination and runs anyway as a 3d party.
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My only fear is that, if/when he loses the primary, he will start a third party campaign out of pure arrogance and ego.
If he does, the Republicans will lose due to the split vote, and America is finished.
I don't mind him running and expressing opinions that the majority of Americans agree with, but when it comes time to realize someone like Walker or Rubio are going to get the nomination, I pray that he will drop out and throw his full support to the winner.
And so would it be a bad thing to have three parties?
Where is it written in stone there can only be a democrat and republican party? Neither of those have the interests of America at heart anymore IMO.
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he's trying for the Republican nomination. if he wins that, that shuts out Cruz and Rubio as contenders. it would be clear cut: Trump vs Hillary.
if that's the case, he wouldn't be taking away Republican votes, he IS the republican votes.
he only takes Republican votes if he doesn't get the nomination and runs anyway as a 3d party.
In which case the Democrats win.
1. Republicans do not have enough votes on their side to win the election.
2. Democrats don't either.
3. The winner must pull votes from undecideds, moderates, independent voters.
4. The fastest growing block of new voters who need to pick a side are exactly the demographic Trump is currently insulting.
5. Trump loses the general election, Hillary wins, GB'ers panic like lemmings with credit cards and crash the GB Auction side servers.
That's about it.
I don't believe that telling the truth (that many crimes against Americans are now committed by criminal illegals) is necessarily insulting to Hispanics. But agree that he needs to be careful in how he states his opinions.
I think the simplest way for the Reps to show the nation that they are not anti-Hispanic racists is to choose Rubio or Cruz for either the Presidential or VP nominee. I prefer Rubio as either the Presidential nominee or VP to Walker.
The Social'rats would absolutely HATE having Rubio selected, because they then couldn't scream "Racist!" every five seconds.
Which obscures the larger issue, makes it seem smaller and less important. Especially so as the Open Borders side of it can produce endless sympathetic images of hard working immigrants. That advantage negates a hell of a lot of anti-illegals chatter and the need for Border and Port Security that has become tied to it.
Organized crime makes multiple billions of dollars off that Border and the poor security at Ports. Among the many criminal enterprises is the smuggling of illegal aliens, but again that is only one element. The value of the drugs, guns, government corruption, infiltration of legal businesses, trade in sex slaves, kidnapping and extortion all make the illegal alien problem look puny by comparison.
Deaths in the USA to illegal drugs are more numerous than automobiles or what the left likes to call "Gun Violence". (there is no gun violence, only people are violent). That alone is a larger problem than illegal aliens, and we do not make use of it other than as a secondary issue to illegals.
All that money flowing south has fueled a civil war between the nation of Mexico and organized crime. The scale is enormous, makes America's troubles with 1930's gangsters or mafia or other gangs look like a joke.
What Trump or any candidate should be doing is putting his team to work defining all these many problems. Use that to build an argument for a massive increase in Border and Port Security. Starve the Mexican, Central American and South American organized crime families of the cash that fuels their warfare with governments and kills Americans in the north.
MY guess is about 100,000 US troops are needed to patrol the border, build guard and operate massive inspection facilities for cargo. Quite a lot of naval activity will be needed in coastal waters, far more than any we have previously tried.
Coincidentally, do all that, and the illegal alien problem solves itself. All while saving a heck of a lot of Latino / Hispanic lives.
Something a "LEADER", if we ever again manage to elect one, would rightfully crow about come election season.
didn't work with obomo