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Gun ? Not legal in Illinois
Captplaid
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Why is this not legal in Illinois?
I did not know Illinois to be restrictive for particular styles. Sure, Chicago makes anything illegal, but I never new of the remainder of the state to declare a gun restricted.
Why is this not legal in Illinois?
I did not know Illinois to be restrictive for particular styles. Sure, Chicago makes anything illegal, but I never new of the remainder of the state to declare a gun restricted.
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"INTERDYNAMIC 9mm luger model kg-99 comes with a front pistol grip(note not legal in Illinois)"
He's just saying the front pistol grip is not legal in Illinois. I think that is illegal anywhere in the US according to the fed without an AOW tax stamp.
Anyway, the pistol is legal in Illinois, and with a stamp it would be legal in Illinois with the front pistol grip installed.
bhale ive never been able to get a aow, sbr, or dd in Illinois , nfa weapons are a no no, unless you have a class3 license that was grandfathered in
SBS, SBR, Full auto, and Silencers are no-go in Illinois, but there is nothing in Illinois law preventing the ownerwhip of a pistol with an additional forward pistol grip. It's the only tax stamp restricted item I know of that is legal in Illinois for regular joes.
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
bhale ive never been able to get a aow, sbr, or dd in Illinois , nfa weapons are a no no, unless you have a class3 license that was grandfathered in
SBS, SBR, Full auto, and Silencers are no-go in Illinois, but there is nothing in Illinois law preventing the ownership of a pistol with an additional forward pistol grip. It's the only tax stamp restricted item I know of that is legal in Illinois for regular joes.
i will admit i did not know this until now about aow, i knew the rest was definitely a no no, further reading i have read there is a list of aow's still not allowed as an aow, i cannot find the list, also i have read that some short barreled shotguns are aow's, but cannot find a definition, and of course its hoops to jump through
would love to put a knights key on one of my ar's , if you have a list or definition, please share
Best thing he did for us was moving us to Texas. No thanks Chicago.
There is no Illinois list persay of what is or is not legal in Illinois, there is only the statute describing what is illegal. In reference to firearms the only thing it lists as illegal are machine guns, shotguns with barrel under 18, rifles with barrel under 16, and shotgun or rifle with total length under 26"
Here's a link to the Illinois 'Unlawful Use of Weapons" aka "Deadly Weapons" statute.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt.+24&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=62900000&SeqEnd=65800000
Relevant excerpt from the very long statute, there's alot more to the law, but this is the only section refering to possession of firearms that would fall under NFA.
(7) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or
carries:
(i) a machine gun, which shall be defined for the
purposes of this subsection as any weapon, which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manually reloading by a single function of the trigger, including the frame or receiver of any such weapon, or sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses, or carries any combination of parts designed or intended for use in converting any weapon into a machine gun, or any combination or parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
(ii) any rifle having one or more barrels less
than 16 inches in length or a shotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle or shotgun, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches; or
EDIT: Looks like alot of DDs would also be legal
http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/041006-openletter-nfa-adding-vertical-fore-grip.html
Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a Handgun
"Handgun" is defined under Federal law to mean, in part, a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand.. Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. ? 921(a)(29).
Under an implementing regulation of the National Firearms Act (NFA), 27 C.F.R. ? 479.11, "pistol" is defined as:
. a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).
The NFA further defines the term "any other weapon" (AOW) as:
. any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. 26 U.S.C. ? 5845(e).
ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are "making" a firearm requiring registration with ATF's NFA Branch. Making an unregistered "AOW" is punishable by a fine and 10 years' imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered "AOW" is also punishable by fine and 10 years' imprisonment.
To lawfully add a vertical fore grip to a handgun, a person must make an appropriate application on ATF Form 1, "Application to Make and Register a Firearm." The applicant must submit the completed form, along with a fingerprint card bearing the applicant's fingerprints; a photograph; and $200.00. The application will be reviewed by the NFA Branch. If the applicant is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under Federal, State, or local law, and possession of an "AOW" is not prohibited in the applicant's State of residence, the form will be approved. Only then may the person add a vertical fore grip to the designated handgun.
A person may also send the handgun to a person licensed to manufacture NFA weapons. The manufacturer will install the fore grip on the firearm and register the firearm on an ATF Form 2. The manufacturer can then transfer the firearm back to the individual on an ATF Form 4, which results in a $5.00 transfer tax. If the manufacturer is out of State, the NFA Branch will need a clarification letter submitted with the ATF Form 4 so that the NFA Branch Examiner will know the circumstances of the transfer. Questions can be directed to the NFA Branch or the Firearms Technology Branch.