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A Message to Police and Military

GotteskriegerGotteskrieger Member Posts: 3,170 ✭✭
edited January 2012 in General Discussion

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  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.
  • jwb267jwb267 Member Posts: 19,664 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    some will stand up, most will not
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Seen it before and there is much truth and good advice contained therein.

    My sig-line and my consistent advocacy clearly state where I stand in this battle.
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    Some people equate the Nazi flag with Fascism, IMO a legitimate symbol.
    I've been thinking some on it lately, some of my conclusions tend to support my instincts and reaffirm my conclusions from many years ago.
    Fascism, look up the definition. It isn't all that complicated, we are slowly replacing God, community and family with government. We are slowly replacing the basic rules that got us this far, The Ten Commandments, the Constitution and a few others, with neo law (government). The neo law is so complex, complicated and convoluted it takes a specialist class to even to begin to understand it. Common sense is replaced with litigation. The rules are designed to benefit the few and not the many.
    The list goes on and no matter how convoluted the process, it all seems to end at the same place, Fascism.
    Some people say communism, if you think of the far right and the far left as a circle and you get far enough one direction or the other, the philosophies seem to meet again in the middle. Really not much difference in the end results, mostly definition and different wording for the same outcome.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like it might be a message from the occupiers.
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MudderChuck
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    Some people equate the Nazi flag with Fascism, IMO a legitimate symbol.
    I've been thinking some on it lately, some of my conclusions tend to support my instincts and reaffirm my conclusions from many years ago.
    Fascism, look up the definition. It isn't all that complicated, we are slowly replacing God, community and family with government. We are slowly replacing the basic rules that got us this far, The Ten Commandments, the Constitution and a few others, with neo law (government). The neo law is so complex, complicated and convoluted it takes a specialist class to even to begin to understand it. Common sense is replaced with litigation. The rules are designed to benefit the few and not the many.
    The list goes on and no matter how convoluted the process, it all seems to end at the same place, Fascism.
    Some people say communism, if you think of the far right and the far left as a circle and you get far enough one direction or the other, the philosophies seem to meet again in the middle. Really not much difference in the end results, mostly definition and different wording for the same outcome.

    I'm with you on that, just saying that there seems to be an immediate disconect with many people as soon as you accuse anyone or anything of resembling Nazis you automaticly become disregarded as an alarmist or having an overly emotion response.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    You're right to some extent, however, the rapid movement this country has taken toward police state type activities cannot be shut out by an intelligent thinking person. I will be surprised if this video goes viral, but if it does things might begin to change for the better...emphasis on might.
    What's next?
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    quote:Originally posted by MudderChuck
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    Some people equate the Nazi flag with Fascism, IMO a legitimate symbol.
    I've been thinking some on it lately, some of my conclusions tend to support my instincts and reaffirm my conclusions from many years ago.
    Fascism, look up the definition. It isn't all that complicated, we are slowly replacing God, community and family with government. We are slowly replacing the basic rules that got us this far, The Ten Commandments, the Constitution and a few others, with neo law (government). The neo law is so complex, complicated and convoluted it takes a specialist class to even to begin to understand it. Common sense is replaced with litigation. The rules are designed to benefit the few and not the many.
    The list goes on and no matter how convoluted the process, it all seems to end at the same place, Fascism.
    Some people say communism, if you think of the far right and the far left as a circle and you get far enough one direction or the other, the philosophies seem to meet again in the middle. Really not much difference in the end results, mostly definition and different wording for the same outcome.

    I'm with you on that, just saying that there seems to be an immediate disconect with many people as soon as you accuse anyone or anything of resembling Nazis you automaticly become disregarded as an alarmist or having an overly emotion response.


    Just an opinion, being labeled an alarmist or whatever for pointing out the parallels between Nazism (Fascism) and some of the progressive (progressive can be both left and right) agendas, is IMO a fabrication propagated by the the same people who support the government as God (not literally,figuratively) process. Some of the people who support the process are very bright, articulate and consummate debaters. The outcome seems to be, today anybody labeled a Fascist (Nazi) who seems to purport, some, if not all of the same values that are often labeled Fascist, have put a great deal of effort into marginalizing the tag Nazi. Why? Because it "fits" in all to many instances, is a little too apt and the only solution the other side has come up with, is to marginalize the people who use it and discredit it as a label. When is a parallel not a parallel when somebody convinces another that it isn't, you can call it equidistant non intersecting lines or whatever you want to, it is still a parallel. You can even argue a parallel isn't a parallel and if you are good enough, actually convince somebody. More likely you can use the public forum to decry anybody who uses the word parallel (or Nazi or Fascist) and convince the natural followers you are right. You may convince them parallel lines do intersect or diverge, I'm not buying it.[:D]
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    quote:Originally posted by MudderChuck
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    Some people equate the Nazi flag with Fascism, IMO a legitimate symbol.
    I've been thinking some on it lately, some of my conclusions tend to support my instincts and reaffirm my conclusions from many years ago.
    Fascism, look up the definition. It isn't all that complicated, we are slowly replacing God, community and family with government. We are slowly replacing the basic rules that got us this far, The Ten Commandments, the Constitution and a few others, with neo law (government). The neo law is so complex, complicated and convoluted it takes a specialist class to even to begin to understand it. Common sense is replaced with litigation. The rules are designed to benefit the few and not the many.
    The list goes on and no matter how convoluted the process, it all seems to end at the same place, Fascism.
    Some people say communism, if you think of the far right and the far left as a circle and you get far enough one direction or the other, the philosophies seem to meet again in the middle. Really not much difference in the end results, mostly definition and different wording for the same outcome.

    I'm with you on that, just saying that there seems to be an immediate disconect with many people as soon as you accuse anyone or anything of resembling Nazis you automaticly become disregarded as an alarmist or having an overly emotion response.


    That is in large part due to the progressives who run our government at all levels, (the warmonger types), and their media, who remind us of the holocaust and Israel 24/7. It's the exact same kind of tactics that agenda oriented beltway types, elites, and racist minority organizations have used against southerners since the War Between The States. The more the public complains about police state type activities, the more we hear about the Nazis, the holocaust, and bombing Iran, or invading some other country due to their human rights violations. And, if you do speak up in public about the real state of the union instead of embracing their version of it, you are labeled an extremist, an Israeli hater...someone who hates God, their country, a racist, and/or someone who should be avoided - and nothing could be further from the truth, but it is what it is. May God help us all come to our senses, clean the warmongers out of government, and replace them with honest, clear thinking citizens of the highest caliber.
    What's next?
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    quote:Originally posted by MudderChuck
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    Some people equate the Nazi flag with Fascism, IMO a legitimate symbol.
    I've been thinking some on it lately, some of my conclusions tend to support my instincts and reaffirm my conclusions from many years ago.
    Fascism, look up the definition. It isn't all that complicated, we are slowly replacing God, community and family with government. We are slowly replacing the basic rules that got us this far, The Ten Commandments, the Constitution and a few others, with neo law (government). The neo law is so complex, complicated and convoluted it takes a specialist class to even to begin to understand it. Common sense is replaced with litigation. The rules are designed to benefit the few and not the many.
    The list goes on and no matter how convoluted the process, it all seems to end at the same place, Fascism.
    Some people say communism, if you think of the far right and the far left as a circle and you get far enough one direction or the other, the philosophies seem to meet again in the middle. Really not much difference in the end results, mostly definition and different wording for the same outcome.

    I'm with you on that, just saying that there seems to be an immediate disconect with many people as soon as you accuse anyone or anything of resembling Nazis you automaticly become disregarded as an alarmist or having an overly emotion response.


    That is in large part due to the progressives who run our government at all levels, (the warmonger types), and their media, who remind us of the holocaust and Israel 24/7. It's the exact same kind of tactics that agenda oriented beltway types, elites, and racist minority organizations have used against southerners since the War Between The States. The more the public complains about police state type activities, the more we hear about the Nazis, the holocaust, and bombing Iran, or invading some other country due to their human rights violations. And, if you do speak up in public about the real state of the union instead of embracing their version of it, you are labeled an extremist, an Israeli hater...someone who hates God, their country, a racist, and/or someone who should be avoided - and nothing could be further from the truth, but it is what it is. May God help us all come to our senses, clean the warmongers out of government, and replace them with honest, clear thinking citizens of the highest caliber.

    The Jews and other undesirables were actually a pretty small part of the Nazi, Fascist agenda. And no matter how people try to skew the program, it did have some legitimacy. The basis for the whole program were that the Jews manipulated, but didn't produce. The excesses, the methods and the outcome are repugnant. The use of the tactic of blaming most, if not all, of the social ills of a society on a small portion of a society worked like a charm, hate units. Purging the problem instead of solving the problem, is another tactic that works.

    The sad part of the whole process is 70-80 years later, that the Germans are now the Jews, they manage and manipulate. And imported labor, Poles, Romanians, Turks, whomever, do most of the actual producing.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bhale187
    Good message, I think the use of the Nazi flags and storm troopers in front of the White House takes away from the message and makes it easier for folks to write it off as a nut extremist's views though.


    A friend of mine's daughter won some kind of science competition and ended up competing in Washington DC. The whole family went with her as they wanted to see the sights of our capital. The thing he commented on when he returned was the militarized police presence in the city. He said it was everywhere he looked and he said it didn't feel like it was his capital at all. Sadly it is not coming, it is here.
  • jev1969jev1969 Member Posts: 2,691
    edited November -1
    [/quote]
    The Jews and other undesirables were actually a pretty small part of the Nazi, Fascist agenda. And no matter how people try to skew the program, it did have some legitimacy. The basis for the whole program were that the Jews manipulated, but didn't produce. The excesses, the methods and the outcome are repugnant. The use of the tactic of blaming most, if not all, of the social ills of a society on a small portion of a society worked like a charm, hate units. Purging the problem instead of solving the problem, is another tactic that works.

    The sad part of the whole process is 70-80 years later, that the Germans are now the Jews, they manage and manipulate. And imported labor, Poles, Romanians, Turks, whomever, do most of the actual producing.
    [/quote]

    That's a pretty broad brush to be painting with in red above. [B)]
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    interesting video....even with the sound off...the nazi image is over the top....maybe a Mussolini comparison would be more appropriate.
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jev1969

    The Jews and other undesirables were actually a pretty small part of the Nazi, Fascist agenda. And no matter how people try to skew the program, it did have some legitimacy. The basis for the whole program were that the Jews manipulated, but didn't produce. The excesses, the methods and the outcome are repugnant. The use of the tactic of blaming most, if not all, of the social ills of a society on a small portion of a society worked like a charm, hate units. Purging the problem instead of solving the problem, is another tactic that works.

    The sad part of the whole process is 70-80 years later, that the Germans are now the Jews, they manage and manipulate. And imported labor, Poles, Romanians, Turks, whomever, do most of the actual producing.
    [/quote]

    That's a pretty broad brush to be painting with in red above. [B)]
    [/quote]

    The red should be in quotation marks and was standard dogma of the that time and place. I've talked with enough old timers who were there and lived it, on the German side. I like to think I have a bit of insight into the mood of the time.
    My grammar, punctuation and spelling does need some work.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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