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what would you have done
Cyclonus
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so there is this local gunshop down here in new kensington and despite how much i hate the damn place i still go there as they do have reloading supplies. while i am there in walks a kid looking to sell a handgun i walk over to see what he has and to my surprise its a nazi marked luger in beautiful shape some alarms are going off in my head as this has to be stolen this pistol had obviously been ln a safe for the past 60 years. the store offers him 300$ for it claiming they already have 3 of them i have seen there 3 which are not only in bad shape but are obviously chinese copies as well and are way overpriced as such 1400$ for a rusted chinese copy seems a bit much , so i told the kid to have it expertly appraised and not to sell it. the store was furious with me and threw me out what im thinking i should have done was beat the snot out of that kid and returned the luger back to his grandad who survived who knows what kind of hell to bring it back with him
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No matter how much they might rip people off its their business and a serious breach of etiquette to have interupted the sale. On the up side you broke no laws and could have done so to get the deal for yourself but then your never welcome back.
If I wanted to keep visiting the store I'd keep my mouth shut but if I wanted the pistol I'd have made a quick counter offer and told the kid I'd wait outside and then leave.
No matter how much they might rip people off its their business and a serious breach of etiquette to have interrupted the sale. On the up side you broke no laws and could have done so to get the deal for yourself but then your never welcome back.
When I ended my 39 year business career, I always did a fair deal. A fair deal is one that is FAIR to both parties involved. That transaction smelled like a dead carp on both ends.
I don't want to be an * but
I know if the situation was reversed, your story would have a different slant.
I am glad to hear you didn't follow your first instinct, a felony assault conviction would have kept you from going to any gun store.
By the way, where do you get Chinese made copies of Nazi marked Lugers?
He came out as we were exchanging $$ and was mad as hell. Told us all to never come back.
1.the gun was stolen
2.the owner it was stolen from
3.how the original owner aquired it
4.he has a 60 year old safe
But they are responsible for what they buy also, as to if it were a stolen forearms.
On the other note. I've been on the other end of the value question. There was a supposed reputable dealer I went to, just to see what he would suggest for a Colt Pocket .380 I had. He started off telling me it had been reblued, (it had not) and gave me a low value on it. let me know he was not someone I wanted to deal with. But, that said, there is a lot of it that goes on. I laugh myself.
Let's assume that instead of you thinking that the thing was hot, that the gun was left to him by his granddad, who got it the hard way.
How about if it was an elderly widow who found this in the sock drawer, and needs some money to keep the heat on?
This person takes it to these people, who don't treat him squarely. Do you butt in? I think in this situation, yes. The kid is certainly free to ignore you.
Do I fault the gun store for trying to get a deal? No, that's the risk everyone takes when selling without knowledge. No one has the right to expect to be educated by anyone, only be told the truth.
Let's change the facts. What if the kid came in with a "rare, one of a kind, etc." that was clearly a chinese knock off, or otherwise not what the kid thought or said it was. Would you say to the guy at the store "This is a phoney"? Fair is fair....
As far as them kicking you out, well, their loss.
If the shoe was on the other foot I'm sure YOU would have been pissed.
I have been in that same position which you found yourself and kept my mouth shut. The plain fact of the matter is the the gun shop attracted that customer into their store with advertising,reputation, and a brick and mortar establishment. It costs money to have these things and that is the gamble the store owner takes. There is nothing which prevents you from relating your story to as many people as you want outside the store but to do it so it sours the deal in progress is the same as stealing. How would you feel about the store owner coming into your home and spicing your dinner to his taste?
No pun intended but, that sale was none of your business.
well here is how i look at it would you want to do business with a store that is that shifty and underhanded i know i wouldnt
quote: despite how much i hate the damn place i still go there
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I am all for supporting your local stores, and all for reducing the proliferation of swindlers.
While I was at my local gun store a guy walked up to the counter and asked what he could get for his handgun. The guy behind the counter flopped down a book of gun values and said "We will look up the model and condition of your gun in this book and give you 50% of the listed value. If you bought the gun here we will pay 60%." That's an example of a store I don't like but will keep going back to for the RIGHT reasons.
Ida come at 'em like a spider monkey!
With a watch...
Don
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
When you are in a man's place of business, you keep your nose and actions out of his business. If you think he's a crook, don't go back.
It always annoyed me at gun shows to be in the middle of a deal with a customer, and have some yahoo who didn't pay for 7 tables, and who didn't bring $40K worth of stuff and $10K cash to the show, walk up and tell the customer that my gun is a fake, or try to offer him $10 more for his gun than I just offered.
If he walks away, he is yours. While we are negotiating, he is mine.
When you are in a man's place of business, you keep your nose and actions out of his business. If you think he's a crook, don't go back.
+1!!!
if you knew the gun was stolen, why the concern of the amount the dealer was willing to pay???
if it where stolen you should have left the deal alone, the dealer would have got the proper information and prosecution would have been a snap
i was in a store, a guy came in with a 629, sweet gun, sold it for 300 bucks right in front of me, he left i offered 350 right there on the spot, they took it, it was worth keeping my nose out of their deal, extra 50 bucks was worth having a receipt and documentation