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S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban By JIM DAVENPORT, Associated Press Writer
30 minutes ago
LATTA, S.C. - A 15-year-old girl led a small protest march Monday over her high school's ban on Confederate flag clothing, which she is also challenging in court.
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Candice Hardwick walked with about a dozen people, about half of them family members and some wearing Confederate T-shirts, a few blocks to Latta High School. Hardwick wore a Confederate belt buckle and button and had the Confederate flag on her cell phone cover. She removed those items before entering the school, where she is a sophomore.
Hardwick says she wants to wear the emblem to pay tribute to ancestors who fought on the Confederate side of the Civil War. She said she has been forced to change clothes or turn her shirt inside-out, and has been suspended twice and threatened with being kicked off the track team.
John Kirby, school superintendent, said Monday that officials "have clothing issues every year ... and we've handled it consistently every time."
Among those marching with Candice was a black man, H.K. Edgerton, past chairman of the Southern Legal Resource Center's advisory board. The group filed a federal lawsuit in March on her behalf.
"She's made a stand for her Southland," said Edgerton. A former local NAACP leader in North Carolina, he is known for dressing up in Confederate gear to emphasize what he describes as the role blacks played in voluntarily supporting the South in the Civil War.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that the First Amendment protects students' political expressions during school hours so long as they don't substantially disrupt the education process.
The high court has not ruled specifically on whether a student may wear Confederate symbols. Three years ago, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta upheld a lower court ruling allowing a school to ban the Confederate flag.
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S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban By JIM DAVENPORT, Associated Press Writer
30 minutes ago
LATTA, S.C. - A 15-year-old girl led a small protest march Monday over her high school's ban on Confederate flag clothing, which she is also challenging in court.
ADVERTISEMENT
Candice Hardwick walked with about a dozen people, about half of them family members and some wearing Confederate T-shirts, a few blocks to Latta High School. Hardwick wore a Confederate belt buckle and button and had the Confederate flag on her cell phone cover. She removed those items before entering the school, where she is a sophomore.
Hardwick says she wants to wear the emblem to pay tribute to ancestors who fought on the Confederate side of the Civil War. She said she has been forced to change clothes or turn her shirt inside-out, and has been suspended twice and threatened with being kicked off the track team.
John Kirby, school superintendent, said Monday that officials "have clothing issues every year ... and we've handled it consistently every time."
Among those marching with Candice was a black man, H.K. Edgerton, past chairman of the Southern Legal Resource Center's advisory board. The group filed a federal lawsuit in March on her behalf.
"She's made a stand for her Southland," said Edgerton. A former local NAACP leader in North Carolina, he is known for dressing up in Confederate gear to emphasize what he describes as the role blacks played in voluntarily supporting the South in the Civil War.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that the First Amendment protects students' political expressions during school hours so long as they don't substantially disrupt the education process.
The high court has not ruled specifically on whether a student may wear Confederate symbols. Three years ago, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta upheld a lower court ruling allowing a school to ban the Confederate flag.
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IMO, both the Nazis and the confederates are just old beaten social systems and today the people flaunting their insignia are just misfits in polite society. [;)]
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And people complain when the Nazis wear their insignia, golly gee gosh.
IMO, both the Nazis and the confederates are just old beaten social systems and today the people flaunting their insignia are just misfits in polite society. [;)]
And you probly believe the civil war was over slavery too.
Hairy, some times you make a few good coments ( I said a FEW) but most of the time I wonder if you have any idea what you are even saying.
And people complain when the Nazis wear their insignia, golly gee gosh.
IMO, both the Nazis and the confederates are just old beaten social systems and today the people flaunting their insignia are just misfits in polite society. [;)]
Where's this "polite society"? I want to go there. [:D]
Nazi, confederate, whatever. I see no offense in any of it. I may not agree, but who cares?
In the near future, people will be saying the same thing about people wearing symbols of the defunct USA.
She can't wear a flag on her T-shirt but I bet the school will give her a box of condoms and teach her how to put one on a bannana.
Unfortunately, that is probably the truest thing posted so far. [:(][:(]
IMO,
Yep, thats all it is. Don
*_r_done did you borrow my flag pic?
Yea I hope you don't mind. I thought it fit here.
I don't like it when the Nazis march; they do have a right to do it. I also have a right to shout them down. I also have a right to call "BS" when I see it, and this girl is wading in it.
Is it becuase sometimes we put pearls before swine? Do you really think that this is about her first amendment rights? No, this is provocation, as is the whole confederate flag BS. Don't get me wrong- I don't believe in restrictions on free speech. However, I also don't think she's a. a hero, b. doing this to make a point about free speech. or c. she's saying anything of real value.
I don't like it when the Nazis march; they do have a right to do it. I also have a right to shout them down. I also have a right to call "BS" when I see it, and this girl is wading in it.
Is this the same speech you made when shadow83's son wore the T-shirt with the picture of George W. Bush with the caption "International Terrorist"? The ACLU went to court and won his right to wear it to school. I suppose he was (a) a hero, (b) doing it to make a point about free speech and (c) he was saying something of real value. I also have a right to call "BS" when I see it, and you are wading in it.
She can't wear a flag on her T-shirt but I bet the school will give her a box of condoms and teach her how to put one on a bannana.
So True...[:(]
The Civil War most certainly WAS over slavery. All that "states' rights" they wanted protected was their right to own slaves. Slavery tore this nation apart for decades leading up to the election of Lincoln, the first Republican president elected and the Republican Party was formed as an abolisionist party dedicated to ending slavery. As soon as Lincoln was elected the slave states started voting to leave the Union because they knew that abolishing slavery would be high on his agenda. Note that in the states with low rates of slave ownership, like Missouri and Arkansas, the sentiment for seccession was nowhere near as fervent as in the states with deeper traditions of slavery. The argument in AR against joining the Confederacy was that AR had few slaves so abolishing the practice would have little effect on this state. In the end AR joinded the Confederacy but reading the accounts of the debate it's clear THEY believed the war was over slavery. There were other social, political and economic factors at work causing complaints from Southern states, but it was slavery that was the bottom line in the debate over succession.
Too old to live...too young to die...
I guess I'd be in trouble. I have 2 confederate flags tattoo'd on me. The NAACP would probly want me locked up!
It is sad that most folks do not understand what the civil war was really about. I have a Confederate flag tattoo'ed over my heart...flying next to the American flag. It's actually a skull wearing a red beret with a paratrooper banner hanging underneath it.
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
And people complain when the Nazis wear their insignia, golly gee gosh.
IMO, both the Nazis and the confederates are just old beaten social systems and today the people flaunting their insignia are just misfits in polite society. [;)]
And you probly believe the civil war was over slavery too.
Hairy, some times you make a few good coments ( I said a FEW) but most of the time I wonder if you have any idea what you are even saying.
I'm with Hairy. I am completely against dress codes in public schools. I am therefore against the banning of the rebel flag clothing. At the same time, I would not allow my kid to wear one. I went to high school in Conyers, GA. The kids wearing the rebel flag clothing were not doing so to honor some heritage, but rather to show hatred for others. The ones wearing the shirts were the ones yelling and spray painting racial slurs around school and starting racial fights. Unless of course the heritage they were trying to honor was one of ignorance and bigotry.
Yeah, and swastika can also be considered a Tibetan symbol of "good luck", that doesn't mean we should let our kids go to school brandishing them, for numerous reasons.
Interesting fact. Learn something new every day.
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quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
And people complain when the Nazis wear their insignia, golly gee gosh.
IMO, both the Nazis and the confederates are just old beaten social systems and today the people flaunting their insignia are just misfits in polite society. [;)]
And you probly believe the civil war was over slavery too.
Hairy, some times you make a few good coments ( I said a FEW) but most of the time I wonder if you have any idea what you are even saying.
I'm with Hairy. I am completely against dress codes in public schools. I am therefore against the banning of the rebel flag clothing. At the same time, I would not allow my kid to wear one. I went to high school in Conyers, GA. The kids wearing the rebel flag clothing were not doing so to honor some heritage, but rather to show hatred for others. The ones wearing the shirts were the ones yelling and spray painting racial slurs around school and starting racial fights. Unless of course the heritage they were trying to honor was one of ignorance and bigotry.
I was refering to tht comment by hairy of the people being misfits. The confederate flag for many IS A SYMBAL OF HERITAGE. Personaly I am glad to see people take pride in their heritage without resorting to the gang style tactics (MS-13 is a good example of that). And for the people from the south the confederate flag is a symbal of heritage!
Hairy I'll give you five bucks to say that standing in front of a confederate war memorial located in the town squares of about three hundred small towns in Ga, NC, and SC. That's fifteen hundred bucks if you make it to all of them. My guess is I'd be out about a buck fifty before your free speech rights were violated.
Intolerant bigots are everywhere, eh? I'll take your word on it.
It is sad that most folks do not understand what the civil war was really about. I have a Confederate flag tattoo'ed over my heart...flying next to the American flag. It's actually a skull wearing a red beret with a paratrooper banner hanging underneath it.
I'll be looking for you...
Friend.
http://www.dixieoutfitters.com/heritage/hindex.shtml
By the way, I have my own Confederate Flag.
I don't. I'm a little nervous about meeting my (exclusively)
PA Yankee ancestors in the afterlife ... and having to explain
to them why I owned a Confederate flag (of all things)!
... but I DO have a few Nazi & Jap flags ... go figure![:D]
I don't. I'm a little nervous about meeting my (exclusively)
PA Yankee ancestors in the afterlife ... and having to explain
to them why I owned a Confederate flag (of all things)!
... but I DO have a few Nazi & Jap flags ... go figure![:D]