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Shipping Ammo

jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
edited November 2017 in General Discussion
Excuse my ignorance on the subject but could someone give me the "nutshell" version of shipping ammo? Are there different rules for different states? Does it need to be shipped a certain way by certain carriers? Thanks!
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How much of a hassle is it to ship a box of ammo from one individual to another? Is UPS the one to use and about how much?
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are the rules to shipping ammo?
    I could look on GB to read the rules but would like to ask here cuz there might be details that aren't included in GB's explanation plus yaall can show off your infinite knowledge and experience. Thanks.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi. I'm new to this site and new to selling ammo. I learned a few things recently by selling a full box of vintage ammo on here. I thought five bucks to send it priority mail would be no problem. Well, before actually mailing it, I researched and see as most of you know I'm sure, I should not do that. So I thought, no problem, I see I can just send it UPS. When I did, they wanted $15 to do so. How do you guys handle shipping ammo? Is it customary to charge $15-$20 for shipping it? Will people bidding on here expect to be paying that much in shipping charges? Thanks for any advise you can give me.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sold a box of obsolete ammo on auction the other day ( the first in a while )and cannot believe the hassle. Of course the postal service is out.I boxed it up following UPS guiedlines and took it to their store.I was told I would have to take it to their main office
    about forty miles away. They did not bother to mention that they opened at 4:30 P.M.,go figure. Close by is a FedEx terminal so I stopped in and was told bluntly that they did not ship ammo,period.
    I checked their website and found instructions on shipping small arms ammunition. I know people who ship ammo by not mentioning what is in the box,but I was trying to do it the right way. This was a lower 48 ground shipment,20 rounds,not a nuke.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Robert Cole's response to an earlier thread indicated that you can ship ammo via UPS. That reminded me of something I've been wanting to ask you all. What does ORM-D mean?

    Every time I get a bulk shipment of ammo from Midway or Cabelas it has a sticker on it that says ORM-D (and one that says HEAVY!).

    Thanks,
    G36



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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey quick question,,, do i need a FFL to ship ammo? or sell it on gunbroker? who can i ship ammo thew? usps,ups,fedex,dhl?

    thx
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi every body just checking Small arms ammunition is classified as
    ORM-D for shipping purposes isn't it?
    Just toss your 2 cents in and thanks for the help.

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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 2 boxes of Original Norma .44 Automag ammo and want to list them and want to know how to ship. I know they have to go ground but what company ships ammo.

    PJ

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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to ship about 500 rnds of ammo and I live in a small little town. will ups or fedex do a pick up on this. I tried to ship though the closest store but was told i had to go to a hub, same as shipping a pistol. I have never shipped ammo before. The guy i traded a gun for wanted this ammo and i'v been trying to get it to him for about month now but haven't had to make a trip anywere close to a hub. And with being laid off i dont want to go 80 miles out of my way just to ship ammo.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it legal to ship ammo directly without using an FFL?
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What laws are there to ship ammo? Who will take it I never shipped ammo befor

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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Which carrier is the best to use for shipping ammo? Is there extra charges for hazardous item? Thanks.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had wanted to do a give away of a couple of boxes of original Winchester Black Talons ammo for my 100th post but looking into the shipping it looks like it might be more trouble than its worth. I understand USPS is out of the question. Anyone ever shipped ammo? What's the procedure? Thanks.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The UPS instructions baffle me. In simple language, how do I prepare a box for shipping ammo? Is the ORM-D label needed or not? Can I download it?

    Thanks
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sure this question has been asked before, i didn't see it.

    As a private party, how do i ship ammo to someone out of state, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex? What's the process?

    Thank you for your help,
    Gary aka Mango Tango
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought some 460 weatherby ammo from GB (at a very good price)and the fella just outside New Orleans is getting nowhere trying to ship to me. Is there any one in the New Orleans area that would be willing to take this ammo from him and ship to me? I would pay all expenses and a bonus. Just contact me soon as I'm running out of options. Thanks.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've never shipped ammo before, what is a good carrier, i need to ship about 60 pounds?

    Any info would be helpful,
    Thanks!
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How does one go about shipping loaded ammo around? I to it to a Mail Boxes Etc. and they were outraged that I would attemp to ship it!! ~OK~ I will stay away from there! I have ordered ammo and UPS ships it, I looked on there website and could not find anything. Thanks for any help in advance,
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am going to use UPS ground with ORM-D lables but I need to know of any restrictions from one individual in Louisiana to another in Illinois. Is a copy of their FOID card all I need?
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, I am still alive (I think).

    Anyways, I was hoping to educate myself here a bit. What's my most cost-effective way to ship ammo? It's a small package, but big-bore rounds, so even though it's smaller than a shoe box, it weighs 15#, and UPS/FedEx want between $25 and $30 for ground. Are there any cheaper alternatives?

    Thanks, all.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guys, our sticky on the experts forum is 7+ years old and I'm wondering if there have been new restrictions placed in these years. I have a couple of boxes of old Colt .32 long that I want to put on the auction side. I don't want to go to jail for this little amount of money.

    Thanks,
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    UPS allows ammunition to be shipped via ground. You need to mark the box "ORD-M". Mail Boxes Etc. uses UPS as their main carrier. Go back in and speak with the manager. MBE's are franchises, so you'll be dealing directly with the owner of that branch and not a corporation. If they still deny you, it's because of an anti-gun bias and not any imaginary law or policy.By the way, I live in southern Washington state and my MBE has no problem with me mailing any firearms related items.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jason, Evil has it right on UPS procedure, although I know nothing of MBE's operations. You can also ship FedEx Ground. Both common carriers seem to give their terminal managers a lot of discretion on what they will accept. In some parts of the country, one operation is no prob & the other a PITA, in others, the opposite holds true. And of course in some places both are good or bad. Regardless, it *is* legal & if you have trouble, a call to the home office will help. You also asked in your other post what the cost will be. Depends entirely on weight and distance. Figure a minimum of $8 and a likely max of $20.
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  • jrb22250jrb22250 Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for your help. I think I will check with fedex, I never thought of them.
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    UPS makes it fairly plain on their websight that guns and ammo can be shipped, but only from a UPS service counter; this does NOT include affiliates like MBE. You are supposed to take it to a regular uPS center. MBE shipments are at the discretion of the manager.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • Ms. BeastMs. Beast Member Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had to take it to a gun shop to ship, our UPS said it was hazardous material and wouldn't ship it! The guy at the gun shop sent it out......UPS!!!
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  • YankeeClipperYankeeClipper Member Posts: 669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It also seems that alot of it goes through the Post Office also. It seems if you just box it so it doesn't rattle and mail it and don't make a big to-do over it, no problem.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While I have received numerous shipments of ammo by mail, I do tell the folks sending it that it *is* absolutely illegal to do so - see Pub. 52, Section 341.21c (Postal Regs manual). I guess some folks would rather take a chance on spending an extended vacation in an enclosed space with large hairy gentlemen of limited intellectual capacity than spring for the extra effort of shipping by common carrier . . . .
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    Iconoclast-If I's send Jr. some bullits in the mail, you mean ta tell me that them thar mean ole Feds is gonna send lil' ole me to tha' POKEY? AND make me spend time with Bubba?Dang, I'd wish that boy would speak sumthin' other than the Queen's English......although I do like cypherin' out them big fancy words.
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!![This message has been edited by Matt45 (edited 12-13-2001).]
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Matt, actually I kinda prefer the King's English when I'm not speaking American . . . .
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    Ah, but good sir, I fear I must claim ignorance to be a limiting factor on my behalf.King's?Queen's?What's the difference? Dialectic as is the version spoke here on our own soveriegn soil?
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!![This message has been edited by Matt45 (edited 12-14-2001).]
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  • mbrookmbrook Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I tried to ship ammo by Fed Exp. ground and they would not take it. I spoke to the security manager at the drop off site and I called their 800 number, both said that they only ship guns and ammo FFL to FFL. I took it to UPS and had no problems.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As I noted in my original post, the policy seems to change from given the political orientation of the person with whom you speak, especially the terminal mgr. I've shipped hundreds of boxes of ammo via FedEx Ground in the last two years. I have no FFL and less than 5% of the recipients have them.
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it labeled ORM-D or is it ORD-M? Got an email from a ammo manufactor that says "ORM-D". Just wondering...
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    ORM-D, Is the acronym used by the USPS for "Other Regulated Material-Domestic" As far as I understand this covers items that are flammable, have a low flashpoint or are corrosive in nature.
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fedex shipping policy is determined only by their Dangerous Goods section, not terminal managers, not Fedex Office store managers.

    Fedex only ships ammo by scheduled pickup, or by contractual arrangement.

    Neal
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by YankeeClipper
    It also seems that alot of it goes through the Post Office also. It seems if you just box it so it doesn't rattle and mail it and don't make a big to-do over it, no problem.<P>
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  • badchrisbadchris Member Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check out this link for shipping help. Find a UPS service center and take it there.
    http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=432303

    You can print off these and tape them to your box.
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=orm-d cartridges small arms&amp;qs=AS&amp;form=QBIR&amp;sp=2&amp;pq=orm-d cart&amp;sk=SC1&amp;sc=3-10&amp;cvid=1C405FC367254162B405B77DFD01F887
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  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,271 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You fellas might want to take a look at the dates on this thread...
    Still good info, I reckon, just not a new thread.
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  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like Mail Boxes Etc, most UPS Stores and FedEx Stores are franchisees. Both the UPS and FedEx tariff state that you have to drop off at a company owned store or the terminal. Franchise locations may or may not accept firearms and/or ammo.
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