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Good Lesson For Gun Dealers
Bruzilla
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I went to have my favorite dealer transfer a firearm I bought off GunBroker to me today, and he informed that as of Oct 2, he will no longer be doing transfers. He's done about 10 for me, and a lot for my friends, so I asked why he was quitting and he said he had three amateur dealers send firearms to the mailing address on his FFL instead of the premises address over the past two weeks and he was "tired of dealing with this crap".
Apparently some sellers think you're supposed to ship a firearm to the mailing address on the FFL, but that address is to inform the BATFE where to send correspondence to, not where firearms are supposed to go. The premises address is the dealer's place of business, which is where they are supposed to go. Sometimes they are the same, but when they are different you should ship to the premises address unless a dealer specifically states to use the mailing address.
So what happens when you don't do this? In my guy's case, he would come home and get a notice from the shipper that a package couldn't be delivered, and he would have to make arrangements to pick it up. This guy opened his store at 9:00 and ran it until 7:00, which means he would have to close up, drive 34 miles to his house, wait for the delivery guy, then drive 34 miles back... all in Jacksonville traffic I could understand why he was so pissed about going through all that just because some seller didn't know which address to use.
So please, for the sake of all of us buyers, make sure you ship to the premises address and NOT the mailing address!
Apparently some sellers think you're supposed to ship a firearm to the mailing address on the FFL, but that address is to inform the BATFE where to send correspondence to, not where firearms are supposed to go. The premises address is the dealer's place of business, which is where they are supposed to go. Sometimes they are the same, but when they are different you should ship to the premises address unless a dealer specifically states to use the mailing address.
So what happens when you don't do this? In my guy's case, he would come home and get a notice from the shipper that a package couldn't be delivered, and he would have to make arrangements to pick it up. This guy opened his store at 9:00 and ran it until 7:00, which means he would have to close up, drive 34 miles to his house, wait for the delivery guy, then drive 34 miles back... all in Jacksonville traffic I could understand why he was so pissed about going through all that just because some seller didn't know which address to use.
So please, for the sake of all of us buyers, make sure you ship to the premises address and NOT the mailing address!
Comments
You would be better off finding another FFL.
I would only send to the name and address on the FFL. If the dealer wanted me to send to a different address than on FFL, I would not do business with him. He needs to do an address change with the ATF now.
You would be better off finding another FFL.
An FFL has 2 separate addresses. One is the premise address, where business is done, and the other is the mailing address. Most of the times they are the same, but they can be different. All guns need to be shipped to the premise address.
Sounds like your dealer needs to change his address to where he actually does business. Not much sympathy here.
Yep... Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have mail delivered for his gun shop delivered to his house. Or whatever his mailing address is. He needs to list just gun shop as his mailing address for FFL related parcels and letters
Your FFL should just let the transfers that go to the wrong address be returned. Problem solved.
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I can understand for whatever reason a mailing address versus a Business premise address could have some reason to be different.
And if it isn't allowed or possible to have UPS/FedEX change delivery to the business address may be it is a hassle to have to go pick up item or force return Etc.
But as noted it is already solved he obviously doesn't want or need the transfer business.
See FFL Newsletter, September 2013.
Sounds to me like Bruzilla's FFL has a problem communicating with customers.
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I called the shop owner at home on a Sunday evening to let him know a handgun would be sitting on his porch on Monday morning. He was more upset about being called at home on Sunday than the gun being left on his porch.
I've been out of the loop(business) for a decade but was under the impression that the address on the FFL was the ONLY address that numbered items could be shipped to.
You can actually ship the firearm to any address that is listed on the license.....so, it is the dealer's fault for not crossing out or circling the address to use when sending over his FFL to use for the transfer. He only has himself to blame if he has had problems. When the first gun went to the wrong place he should have known he needed to make changes. It sounds like he is just using that as an excuse and just doesn't want to do transfers.
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She is totally correct and the OP's dealer needs to step into the 21st Century and communicate with his customers properly. Put a SHIP HERE----> on the FFL they send to the seller and /or mark out the other one if you do not want it shipped there.