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Stupid Tracing Cell Phone Calls Question

CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
edited January 2017 in General Discussion
I realize AT&T has a log of cell phone calls that can be handed over to law enforcement upon a search warrant. What if cell phone calls are made by something like Facebook Messenger over data plan? How traceable is a call over Messager?
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    MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    *Everything* you do with a cell phone is traceable. Even if you use a burner phone that you paid cash for, there is going to be a picture of you buying it. There is zero privacy any more.

    Merc
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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    I realize AT&T has a log of cell phone calls that can be handed over to law enforcement upon a search warrant. What if cell phone calls are made by something like Facebook Messenger over data plan? How traceable is a call over Messager?


    Depends on how bad "they" want to find you. It is doable, but each data provider charges per record. I've had subpoenas where I told them OK, but it is going to cost you over $50,000 to perform that search.
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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,054 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Data? What is the difference between a voice (which is changed into digital) and transmitted back and forth, and data.

    The MEID and tower ID, and the source ID are all stored and length of call (connection) and which device terminated the call.

    All saved info.
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What illegal activity are you planning on doing? That has you worried about being traced![:D]
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    accordin to recent events, voting for trump seems a crime to many
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I admit to having little knowledge of Facebook, but my understanding is that FB Messenger uses VOIP (the Internet) for phone calls, not cell towers. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Zuckerberg has no need to maintain the content of voice messages, but it's certainly possible that the fellas with the bulges in the cheap suits could find a way to incentivize him to do so.

    Neal
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    woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 25,785
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    I realize AT&T has a log of cell phone calls that can be handed over to law enforcement upon a search warrant. What if cell phone calls are made by something like Facebook Messenger over data plan? How traceable is a call over Messager?


    Depends on how bad "they" want to find you. It is doable, but each data provider charges per record. I've had subpoenas where I told them OK, but it is going to cost you over $50,000 to perform that search.
    And they Replied How[;)]
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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750 ✭
    edited November -1
    I started to write something on the landline thread, but thought "What for, these boys don't mind being on a chain and paying for the tether".

    Cellphones can be tapped without a warrant. Anything over the air is fair game. They have built in GPS, sight, and sound. Even if you think it's not transmitting, how do you know?

    Cellphones, ATM cards, Northstar, * recognition, it's all part of the NWO slave chain you pay to wear.

    McAfee of the anti-virus company, was caught in Central or South America by the GPS on his phone.

    My landline can't be tapped without a warrant. I don't carry a cell and I still write some checks.
    Never put anything on an electronic device you're not willing to share with the world.

    I may even start unplugging my SMART TV if I read a little more about it.

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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by woodshed87
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    I realize AT&T has a log of cell phone calls that can be handed over to law enforcement upon a search warrant. What if cell phone calls are made by something like Facebook Messenger over data plan? How traceable is a call over Messager?


    Depends on how bad "they" want to find you. It is doable, but each data provider charges per record. I've had subpoenas where I told them OK, but it is going to cost you over $50,000 to perform that search.
    And they Replied How[;)]


    Nevermind...
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