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I just saw a Subaru commersial that said,

fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
"driving heats up your car way faster than idling and saves fuel".


Doesn't that totally go against the whole purpose of "warming up" your engine before putting a load on it??

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  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 670
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    "driving heats up your car way faster than idling and saves fuel".


    Doesn't that totally go against the whole purpose of "warming up" your engine before putting a load on it??


    I've heard that - at most - one should run the engine only about 10 seconds before starting driving. Within that time the oil has pumped into the cylinders and other parts and they are as lubed as they are going to get.

    Yes, keep the revs low until it is fully warmed, but don't sit there for 5-10 minutes warming it up. It's a waste of gas.

    I have a Subie BRZ.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    I guess "Subies" are immune to sludge...
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I discovered remote start back in '06 on my Chevy, all my successive cars have had it. Winter and summer I start from the living room and let it heat or cool for 5+ minutes. As for extra fuel, at my age I deserve to be pampered just a little!
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have only seen about 4 days above freezing since November. Many of them were 0 or below. I'll let my truck run for ten minutes before I get in it, thanks!

    Normally....under a minute.
  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cbxjeff
    When I discovered remote start back in '06 on my Chevy, all my successive cars have had it. Winter and summer I start from the living room and let it heat or cool for 5+ minutes. As for extra fuel, at my age I deserve to be pampered just a little!


    Amen to that!
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    "driving heats up your car way faster than idling and saves fuel".


    Doesn't that totally go against the whole purpose of "warming up" your engine before putting a load on it??


    My tacamo manual states the same....it says drive slow to normal.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Better than the commercial that says my daughter grew up in the back seat of my Subaru!
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I some places (like Spokane, WA) it is against the law to leave your vehicle running/warming up with no one behind the wheel.

    I believe the law is intended to prevent auto thefts; which happen all too frequently in Spokane. Someone goes out and starts their car, and then goes back inside to wait for it to warm up. When they come back out, their car is gone!

    My remote starter won't allow anyone to make of with my truck while it warms up in the winter or cools down in the summer. I know it wastes gas, but I don't care.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98
    Better than the commercial that says my daughter grew up in the back seat of my Subaru!



    It's hard enough to make a kid in the back seat of a Subaru, yet alone raise one.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My dirty mind I guess but the way I took it was she "GREW UP" as in became a woman in the backseat. quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98
    Better than the commercial that says my daughter grew up in the back seat of my Subaru!



    It's hard enough to make a kid in the back seat of a Subaru, yet alone raise one.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    When I used to travel a lot in my work I got to loving that remote start. Be sitting at breakfast in the hotel restaurant, point the remote out the window and start the car. By the time I got out to the car the heater was blowing warm air, the ice melting off the windshield.

    Very nice feature.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Better than that: I have my truck plugged into an outlet in the carport. When I get up in the morning to go riding, I have a remote control that turns on the block heater for the engine and a ceramic heater in the cab. So when I get in and start the engine, the engine block is warm and the cab is 75 degrees. It still warms up for several minutes before taking off.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
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  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,754 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They can say and bring every study to the game they want, my car is warming up till I dang well believe it's ready to roll.

    I have always compared a car to a person. What happens if you wake up and immediately jump out of bed and start lifting heavy items? Wake up, stretch, get down to business. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. [;)]

    Jon
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Warm ups were mainly for the older vehicles with carbs and chokes and now the computer takes care of that.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not if she is a spinner, SCOUT5!
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cbxjeff
    Not if she is a spinner, SCOUT5!


    Here you go

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCLQbd1YNMY
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Warm ups were mainly for the older vehicles with carbs and chokes and now the computer takes care of that.


    +1000

    Your 1973 Impala with that cast iron block/heads/manifolds would still be cold after 10 miles of uphill driving!![:D]

    Today just about everything is aluminum alloys, comp. controlled cold weather enrichment, sensor controlled fans, and more compact in the engine compartment.

    Yesterday's cars are nothing like today's stuff.

    IE.... For you oldies...remember backing up and hitting your brakes hard to "self-adjust" the drum brakes????
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Warm ups were mainly for the older vehicles with carbs and chokes and now the computer takes care of that.


    +1000

    Your 1973 Impala with that cast iron block/heads/manifolds would still be cold after 10 miles of uphill driving!![:D]

    Today just about everything is aluminum alloys, comp. controlled cold weather enrichment, sensor controlled fans, and more compact in the engine compartment.

    Yesterday's cars are nothing like today's stuff.

    IE.... For you oldies...remember backing up and hitting your brakes hard to "self-adjust" the drum brakes????


    What are these "brakes" you speak of?
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In forward driving the shoe with the adjusting cable on it does not move enuff to click the rachet adjuster. By going backwards and hitting the brakes hard that shoe does move enuff to spin the adjuster
    drum.

    0704_mufp_16_z%2Bbrake_system%2Badjust_drum_brakes.jpg
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    I'm still rather amused by their one where the mother talks about her daughter saying "the back seat is where she grew up!" [:0][:0]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    "driving heats up your car way faster than idling and saves fuel".


    Doesn't that totally go against the whole purpose of "warming up" your engine before putting a load on it??


    Indded it does!
    What's next?
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Warm ups were mainly for the older vehicles with carbs and chokes and now the computer takes care of that.


    +1000

    Your 1973 Impala with that cast iron block/heads/manifolds would still be cold after 10 miles of uphill driving!![:D]

    Today just about everything is aluminum alloys, comp. controlled cold weather enrichment, sensor controlled fans, and more compact in the engine compartment.

    Yesterday's cars are nothing like today's stuff.

    IE.... For you oldies...remember backing up and hitting your brakes hard to "self-adjust" the drum brakes????


    LMAO, yes I remember them. I changed a lot of them in my life. Honed out the cylinders, put new cups in and all that stuff. I still have a couple of brake tools and a couple adjusting tools.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll trust them, they make a fabulous product! My wife loves her '12 Outback and her next car will be a Subaru.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I'll trust them, they make a fabulous product! My wife loves her '12 Outback and her next car will be a Subaru.

    I have to believe they don't want U to warm it up...
    They want the extra wear to sell U a new one..[xx(]
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Sea Ray guy told us to warm the engines at idle until the oil temp was 150. That takes about 20 minutes.
  • Aspen79seAspen79se Member Posts: 4,707
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I'll trust them, they make a fabulous product! My wife loves her '12 Outback and her next car will be a Subaru.

    I have to believe they don't want U to warm it up...
    They want the extra wear to sell U a new one..[xx(]


    Subarus do not wear out, unless they have 500k on them. Even that might not wear them out.
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    "driving heats up your car way faster than idling and saves fuel".


    Doesn't that totally go against the whole purpose of "warming up" your engine before putting a load on it??



    I found the first part of that to be true...however.. in sub zero conditions you will still be driving with a "cold" transmission which provides additional drag and works the engine harder so I'm not sure you are saving any fuel. Letting it idle and shifting the vehicle into neutral often allows the transmission to warm up too.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I'll trust them, they make a fabulous product! My wife loves her '12 Outback and her next car will be a Subaru.

    I have to believe they don't want U to warm it up...
    They want the extra wear to sell U a new one..[xx(]


    Our engine is guaranteed for as long as we own the car by the dealer as long as we have our oil changes done by them, which are at no charge.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Aspen79se
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    I'll trust them, they make a fabulous product! My wife loves her '12 Outback and her next car will be a Subaru.

    I have to believe they don't want U to warm it up...
    They want the extra wear to sell U a new one..[xx(]


    Subarus do not wear out, unless they have 500k on them. Even that might not wear them out.


    \exactly...[;)]
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The old ways are gone and good riddance to them. Some of youins need to get out of the stone ages and learn sumptin' from the young whipper-snappers.

    Oils flow better now than even 10 years ago. Subaru calls for 0W-20 in most engines. You do not need to warm them up. Turn the key, starting the engine, check mirrors, set your radio and put on seat belt. That was a long enough warm up, start driving.
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