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Bad Idea To Play With A 44 Mag In The Bathroom!

zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spackle , mirror.. Landlord is evicting. Son go get an attorney. AD is not grounds for eviction.


    GW.. Landlord.
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Spackle , mirror.. Landlord is evicting. Son go get an attorney. AD is not grounds for eviction.


    GW.. Landlord.


    Um, actually, many leases contain a clause these days that any criminal action by the tenant on the premises is grounds to terminate the agreement.

    I'm pretty sure that shooting through a shared wall is criminal negligence, at the very least.
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    Sometimes, the title of the thread says it all.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Henry0Reilly
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Spackle , mirror.. Landlord is evicting. Son go get an attorney. AD is not grounds for eviction.


    GW.. Landlord.


    Um, actually, many leases contain a clause these days that any criminal action by the tenant on the premises is grounds to terminate the agreement.

    I'm pretty sure that shooting through a shared wall is criminal negligence, at the very least.




    Unless there was a witness in the bathroom that seen this act,( in which I doubt) how would it be criminal negligence? Intent would have to be proven that the tenant Intentionally shot thru the wall to do harm to the next door neighbor. I have been a Landlord for almost 30 yr. and I know what you are saying about the clause BUT Criminal action would be dope dealing, or any arrest for criminal activity. I highly doubt the tenant was arrested. Now the truth be told the tenant was probably behind on rent for the eviction, but this AD is not grounds for the eviction.
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  • shoff14shoff14 Member Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    but you guys are also forgetting that most cities do not allow you to discharge a weapon within city limits.
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  • rossowmnrossowmn Member Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Several months ago on this board I posted a message about a neighbor who accidentally shot a high-powered round through my daughter's window and inner wall as he was sighting in a scope. The case is still in court, but as I recall the gunman was charged with discharge of a firearm within the city limits and reckless endangerment. One (don't know which) is a felony. A lot of the legal issues in such cases probably vary according to local ordinances.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rossowmn
    Several months ago on this board I posted a message about a neighbor who accidentally shot a high-powered round through my daughter's window and inner wall as he was sighting in a scope. The case is still in court, but as I recall the gunman was charged with discharge of a firearm within the city limits and reckless endangerment. One (don't know which) is a felony. A lot of the legal issues in such cases probably vary according to local ordinances.


    Any first year Attorney could get that dismissed. An accidental discharge is not shooting a firearm. And Where in the article does it say it was in the city limits?
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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Was he using "Dawn" or "Ivory liquid" to clean those guns[:0][xx(][:D]
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,465 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kinda of a strange place to keep your guns. Must have liked to look at himself in the mirror while "playing" with his guns....[:)]
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe Ricky3 was finally located doing his .0003 second fastdraw..
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Any first year Attorney could get that dismissed. An accidental discharge is not shooting a firearm.

    You are assuming there were no witnesses and no confession. My guess would be the man who discharged the firearm gave a statement to the police.

    When a round comes out of the barral the firearm has been discharged whether it was negligent/accidental discharge or not.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, and I bet he told the Police it accidently ..AD went off. Obviously the firearm went off or there wouldn't be a hole in the walls. However when Criminally charging there has to be INTENT to Fire the gun. I bet he wasn't arrested. Now he is responsible for damages and if he didn't have the money for the Landlord.. well there you go.. Eviction City for Non Payment.
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  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    Personally, I would move out of sheer embarassment, and not wanting to look neighbors in the eye again.lol

    Sure do like the looks of those DE's though.
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  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by alledan
    Was he using "Dawn" or "Ivory liquid" to clean those guns[:0][xx(][:D]
    He cleans them while taking a shower ... like Kramer.
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jeez what a first class dipfooey. I feel sorry for the sarge that had to put up with this dumbazz for a neighbor.

    judging from the two Desert Eagles and the way the guns are just flying around with loose ammo the perpetrator is "one of those people", you know: the kind that think guns are playthings and try to emulate their Hollywood heroes with their guns [V] [:(!]
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Even an AD would be a crime in my former state of Kalif. If the round entered an inhabited dwelling it would be a felony. It all depends on the state law where the incident occurred. In Kalif. there is no specific intent that the discharge would be accidental or intensional. The fact that the round started in one apartment and went into another is prima fascia evidence of that. If the round had struck the victim it would be Assault With A Deadly Weapon or Murder, depending on if the victim lived or died.

    No police I know would walk away from that one without someone going to jail.
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  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote: Even an AD would be a crime in my former state of Kalif.

    I doubt it, Alpine. An AD is not, by defination, malicious.
    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2006.pdf
    Page 50, bottom

    Discharge of Firearms at Inhabited/Occupied Dwellings, Buildings, Vehicles, Aircraft
    It is unlawful for any person to maliciously and willfully discharge a firearm at an
    inhabited dwelling house, occupied building, occupied motor vehicle, occupied aircraft,
    inhabited housecar, or inhabited camper. (Penal Code ? 246.)
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last time I had one of these we successfully prosecuted the shooter when he claimed AD. It was of course up to him to prove it was NOT Malicious, since he didn't take the stand, jury decided in our favor. This guy had no common sense and should not be around guns for a long, long time.
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  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What I'm trying to figure out is WHY THE HEL HECK WAS IT LOADED TO BEGIN WITH?!?!?!?!?

    That's my 2 cents worth.
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  • warriorsfanwarriorsfan Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Any first year Attorney could get that dismissed. An accidental discharge is not shooting a firearm.



    An accidental discharge is "not shooting a firearm?" So did the gun fire itself? Guns fire when someone pulls the trigger, that's it. Whether or not he intended to fire that weapon, the fact remains that it was HIS finger that pulled the trigger. There are no accidents when it comes to guns, ONLY negligence. This retard broke numerous rules of gun safety, like always treat every firearm as if it were loaded, NEVER put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot, and NEVER point the gun at anything that you aren't willing to destroy. If he had followed the basic rules of gun safety, then he wouldn't have put a round through this neighbor's wall and nearly killed him, therefore he is negligent.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quick Draw McGraw was drawing against himself in the mirror. Look at the location of the hole in the mirror.
    If you play with loaded guns, sooner or later you are going to have an AD.
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