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ever buy a new gun then dont like it

sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
edited July 2013 in General Discussion
Very seldom do I ever buy a style or model firearm that I have not shot in the past and I know what to expect but I got the bug for one of the little Beretta bobcat tip barrel .22 pistol's. Bought a model 21A , now after the second trip to the range I don't like it, its just not dependable, I have tried every .22 ammo I could lay my hands on and the only thing it will run half consistently is CCI mini mags, every bulk ammo I tried stovepipes. Never would I want to depend my life on it, Lost faith in it,Its got to go [:(!]

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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do a search on here for that model and I believe you will find nobody likes it.
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep...S&W 22A...mine was absolute junk...FTF, stovepipes...junk
  • jhimcojhimco Member Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GSG 522. Piece of Over priced garbage. Same with the drum they sold me for it.:-)
  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Phoenix HP22.Pot metal crap.Bought a second one before I fired the first one.Jamomatics.Would not feed anything.Parted out and made my money back.




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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Taurus 85UL....POS
  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm bad about buying a gun, shooting it and selling it. I have certain expectations on accuracy and being reliable/dependable. I'm not talking benchrest accuracy or zero failures to feed but if it wont do what I want it to do, it will soon be gone.

    I am very careful when I buy/trade for something new/different. As a result if I don't like my new weapon I usually get out of it with a profit. Usually I don't make much but $50 seems to be a common figure.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • mstrblastermstrblaster Member Posts: 253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That happens to me way more than I like. I had a 22 tip up and it was a fine weapon. I could hit a paper plate at 50 yds with it. I also have a 85UL Taurus that will do the same thing.
    I heard that a 38 Smith and Wesson Ultra Light was the way to go and I got one. It shot 6 inches to the right at 15 yds. I sent it back to them twice before I sold it back to the guy that sold it to me.

    I think it just happens sometimes[:(]
    To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go out into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness, how cheap, how cowardly, how pathetic. Ted Nugent.
  • leadlead Member Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mauser HSc .380 pistol. I liked the looks of it, it's history, etc. I got one and had nothing but jams with it. On my 2nd range trip, the pin that holds the trigger group broke. I traded it off, after fixing it. A couple years later I found one of the Italian versions made by Gamba and decided to take a chance. It was just as bad, if not worse, jamming all the time. FTF, stovepipes, etc. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
    NO more HSc pistols for me.
  • john carrjohn carr Member Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes. Browning BDA. What a beautiful gun. Ive wanted one since the 1990's and my local gun shop offered a deal I couldn't refuse. It shot everything I could fit into the chamber without a hiccup including Buffalo Bore Overrated. Like a pretty woman, couldn't keep my hands off her. Then the old adage, "Marrying a woman for her beauty is like buying a house for its paint" sat in. The gun was too large for pocket carry and the double stack grips were too wide for my comfort, tho I do have larger hands. Then there was the issue of the caliber, .380 ACP after using .9mm and .45ACP it just seemed anemic. So I ran an ad, kissed it goodbye and never looked back.
  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by john carr
    Yes. Browning BDA. What a beautiful gun. Ive wanted one since the 1990's and my local gun shop offered a deal I couldn't refuse. It shot everything I could fit into the chamber without a hiccup including Buffalo Bore Overrated. Like a pretty woman, couldn't keep my hands off her. Then the old adage, "Marrying a woman for her beauty is like buying a house for its paint" sat in. The gun was too large for pocket carry and the double stack grips were too wide for my comfort, tho I do have larger hands. Then there was the issue of the caliber, .380 ACP after using .9mm and .45ACP it just seemed anemic. So I ran an ad, kissed it goodbye and never looked back.


    Sure liked the one I had [^] Let a guy talk me out of it on a trade [:(]
    The only I didn't like was a Ruger P-85 [xx(] It felt like holding on to a brick [B)]
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Bunch of Browning BDA's fromk $250 to $1150 right now:
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/BI.aspx?Keywords=*BDA*&Sort=4&PageSize=75

    I'd say the only gun I ever regretted buying as an AccuTek .380 pocket gun. Stainless steel, always worked, always fed and fired and ejected. Carried as backup to my S&W 59 or by itself when I could not carry openly.

    Always pinched the trigger finger and bit the web of my hand.

    The 1 pound empty stainless steel weight was too much for a pocket gun. Even with a holster rigged up it felt like I had a brick there.

    Sold it on GB, bought a Kel-Tec P3AT. Lightweight, conceals much more easily, reliable.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 21A and it shoots like a house on fire! I have not had any problems with it.

    They don't have an extractor so you have to keep the chamber very clean and after about 50 rds you need to clean the barrel and chamber or you will have problems.

    I use CCI velocitor ammo.

    22-velocitor.jpg

    Mine will shoot CCI Blazer lead round nose ammo fine also. The CCI Blazer is my goto "bulk" ammo for 22Lr because it shoots so well in a verity of 22 rifles and pistols I have.
    RLTW

  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sig mosquito

    Never made it through a mag w any ammo
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most likely most any gun will have a specific ammo combination it just does not perform with.

    Rimfires are plagued more than others... Doe to inconsistency of the ammo.
    And lack of quality assurance during manufacture... Because it's a rimfire.

    As has been mentioned... Keep it clean, find an ammo that it works well with... And shoot it.
    With any "New to you gun"... Patience is your friend...

    Many of today's firearms have tighter tolerances due to better machining practices...
    But that doesn't necessarily make them better shooters.
    A gun has to be able to cycle well in order to perform well... And this requires clearances...
    To either be manufactured into the gun... Or worn into the gun...

    Add to that the fact that some materials don't work well in guns...
    Stainless can be finicky at best... And gall if not kept properly lubed.
    Carbon steel will rust or lock up due to the lack of or too much lubricant...
    Aluminum hasn't the mass to resist recoil like steels do...
    And plastics can't handle the stresses of shooting as well as metals.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:0][:0]Never! I ll take it
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • DieHard4DieHard4 Member Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Had an issue with my Bersa .380 even though everyone said it was a good gun. I did not enjoy shooting the first several hundred rounds. It was then that I discovered the gun hated Wolf ammo. I found that out when the CCI ammo worked perfectly after.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DieHard4
    Had an issue with my Bersa .380 even though everyone said it was a good gun. I did not enjoy shooting the first several hundred rounds. It was then that I discovered the gun hated Wolf ammo. I found that out when the CCI ammo worked perfectly after.
    My Bersas... Thunder 380 And compact 45 are great little shooters...
    Never did have a problem with them.
    In fact got two 45's one stainless and one in black...
    The daughter loves the 380... And wanted to keep it.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    All guns you have a problem with, call the manufacturer. Many of them are good about solving customer problems. I had a terrific experience with Kel-Tec, absolutely outstanding Warranty service on a used gun I was not the first owner of. I sent them a mess of a beat up P3AT, they sent me a new gun that's worked perfectly for a couple of years now. No charge, and I did expect to pay.

    Ruger has been very good to me. Never a gun problem really. Just accessories.

    I've heard good comments from Hi-Point owners about their customer service too.

    There are good, average and bad makers out there. If you don't try to get the problems fixed you will never know for sure.

    And you may lose out on a new gun.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    All guns you have a problem with, call the manufacturer. Many of them are good about solving customer problems. I had a terrific experience with Kel-Tec, absolutely outstanding Warranty service on a used gun I was not the first owner of. I sent them a mess of a beat up P3AT, they sent me a new gun that's worked perfectly for a couple of years now. No charge, and I did expect to pay.

    Ruger has been very good to me. Never a gun problem really. Just accessories.

    I've heard good comments from Hi-Point owners about their customer service too.

    There are good, average and bad makers out there. If you don't try to get the problems fixed you will never know for sure.

    And you may lose out on a new gun.
    +100

    If you've got a problem gun... And don't take it to the manufacture to fix.
    You really have no basis for complaint.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Marlin 1895GS likes to beat me. My right shoulder's still wonky but I'm not going to quit on her. I just won't feed her much [:D]. She's on a diet and will get a bigger padded bra (read decelerator) for christmas. Also a scope so I can see, since ghost rings should be on shotguns.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    My Marlin 1895GS likes to beat me. My right shoulder's still wonky but I'm not going to quit on her. I just won't feed her much [:D]. She's on a diet and will get a bigger padded bra (read decelerator) for christmas. Also a scope so I can see, since ghost rings should be on shotguns.



    Best solution I found is this outfit's recoil pads. Most shock absorbing I have used:

    http://www.kickeezproducts.com/
    logo.gifheader-pre-fit-recoil-pads.gif

    You can also buy sheets of Sorbothane from McMaster.com and on ebay.

    Cabelas sells sheets you place over your shoulder. Popular with competitive shotgun shooters.
    http://tinyurl.com/lmed2ez

    Midway has Kick-Eez too, including pads for shoulder, cheek and the palm of your shooting hand:
    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?usersearchquery=sorbothane&itemsperpage=96
    http://tinyurl.com/lmed2ez
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:If you've got a problem gun... And don't take it to the manufacture to fix.
    You really have no basis for complaint
    Its not that the Gun is broken,Its the design of the gun all together I have a problem with, since it does not have an ejector it relies completely on the recoil of the round being fired to eject, so any little gunk causes it to fail, Never shot clean .22, if you stop and clean it after you fired 2 or three mags it will work, after that the gunk from the fired .22 rounds builds up and makes it stick just a little in the chamber and it will fail to eject,, At the range who the hell wants to stop every 4 or 5 minutes to clean your gun so it will work.
  • 44caliberkid44caliberkid Member Posts: 925 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Early 90's i bought a Parker 1911 style pistol in 10mm. Total piece of crap. Looked like it was finished with a file, sounded rough, failed to feed or function. Took it back to the gunshop within an hour of buying it and could only get store credit, minus $50. Traded for a Smith and Wesson Outdoorsman 38/44 that I dearly wish I still had.
  • ltcdotyltcdoty Member Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bought a new to me Beretta Model 55e 20 ga. o/u. I couldn't hit a bull in the * with a banjo....buddy just had to have it..sold it to him and he can't miss with it.
  • NEIAPredatorNEIAPredator Member Posts: 1,443
    edited November -1
    Yep, every time I ever bought a Savage. Just could never warm up to them. I get a idea that the next model I try I will like better, but I never do. Usually get some good glass on them and get them shooting good and sell them.
  • deerhidedeerhide Member Posts: 224 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Savage mdl 340's and their cousins. The mags are no d*mn good.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,484 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Taurus PT-92......sent it back to the factory twice....still would not hit anywhere near point of aim...

    Sold it to a gunsmith that wanted some practice
  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,754 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, bought a High Standard 1911 and was terribly disappointed with it. I gave it more then it's fair share of chances and then finally gave up on it.

    As much as it sucks, you learn from your mistakes.

    Jon
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've got a 21A that shoots great and seems to like every ammo I've fed it, however I've got a Beretta NEOS that can't shoot a mag without at least one FTF also no matter what ammo is used[:(!]
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes but I better not mention what one here
  • toolmaniamtoolmaniam Member Posts: 3,213
    edited November -1
    Bought a Kahr CW9, POS. I tried every brand of 9mm I had and would not feed reliably. I sent it back to Kahr and they replaced the barrel and polished the feed ramp and it still jammed. The bad thing was it was a nice slim and lightweight pistol that was easily concealable. I ended up selling it for 50 bucks less than I paid for it.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by savage170
    Yes but I better not mention what one here


    The Anschutz parts fall out did they? [}:)]
  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,754 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimberkid
    I've got a 21A that shoots great and seems to like every ammo I've fed it, however I've got a Beretta NEOS that can't shoot a mag without at least one FTF also no matter what ammo is used[:(!]


    Interesting....I had a Neos and it fed everything. It was no match accuracy-wise to my Ruger MKII though, so I got rid of it.

    Jon
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