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select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
edited February 2006 in General Discussion
Let me know when this creature subsitute teacher will be teaching my child...[B)][}:)][}:)][V]


Teacher to Return After Having Sex Change By JOHN CURRAN, Associated Press Writer
Tue Feb 28, 4:18 AM ET



EAGLESWOOD TOWNSHIP, N.J. - To students at Eagleswood Elementary School, she used to be Mr. McBeth. Now, after undergoing a sex change, 71-year-old Lily McBeth is ready to return to teaching as Miss McBeth.

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Despite criticism from parents, the school board on Monday stood by its decision to allow McBeth to resume working as a substitute teacher.

After two hours of public debate and a private meeting with McBeth and her lawyer, the board took no action on calls by several parents to bar McBeth from returning to the school where she taught for five years before becoming a woman.

"It was magnificent," McBeth said afterward. "You saw democracy in action."

McBeth, a retired sales executive who was married for 33 years and had three children, underwent gender reassignment surgery last year and re-applied for her job under her new name.

McBeth on Monday told the school board and the crowd that she loves teaching and children, and looks forward to returning to the classroom.

"This is not something I got into just as a whim," she said.

Several parents said children in the school - which consists of kindergarten through sixth grade - were not old enough to understand the concept of changing one's gender.

"I, as a parent, am appalled to have this issue brought into my child's psychology," Steve Bond said.

Vincent Mustacchio predicted "chaos" at the school when the students learned of McBeth's surgery.

Young children will be confused by the conflicting appearance of McBeth, who has a deep voice and masculine features but otherwise looks like a woman, other parents said.

"I will not allow you to put my kids in a petri dish and hope it all turns out fine," said Mark Schnepp, who had taken out an ad in a local newspaper urging parents to turn out for the meeting.

Several people spoke in support of McBeth, including three transgender people, two former students of McBeth's and a handful of others, saying that the fact that she is a good teacher was more important than whether she appears as a man or a woman in class.

"There's really nothing to fear because a person is transgender," said Karina Mari, a mother of three school-age children who said she has transgender relatives.

School board attorney Paul Carr said McBeth was a good teacher who had received favorable reviews during her tenure as a substitute.

Earlier this month, the board voted 4-1 to accept her application to return to the classroom.

It's unclear how soon McBeth will resume teaching, Carr said. That depends on the need for substitutes and the availability of certified teachers who get priority when a spot opens up, he said.

Steven Goldstein, chairman of Garden State Equality, a gay rights advocacy group supporting McBeth's bid to resume teaching, called the school board's action historic.

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    WarMongerWarMonger Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Liberals are using Americas classrooms and Americas children for their own social experiments and agenda. Its a shame. Liberals are always a shame.
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    zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
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    That's ridiculous - kids that age have enough on their plates to be concerned with without having to worry about utter confusion on that scale!
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just think ,, IT may be teaching Sex Ed..
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    NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No way would it teach my child if I had one, I simply think its wrong! I was taught the "Pledge of Allegiance" each morning before class. And Give God Thanks before lunch, it was part of school until 7th grade. We had music class every friday where we learned the Theme songs to each Branch of our Military and respect for our Country. Those things are now gone and some wonder why while others dont care. But I would be willing to bet 9 out of 10 of the students taught this in school are Patriots.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,383 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:WarMonger Posted

    Liberals are using Americas classrooms and Americas children for their own social experiments and agenda. Its a shame. Liberals are always a shame.

    10-4 on that!
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    Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Now, after undergoing a sex change, 71-year-old Lily McBeth is ready to return
    71 what's the point in either the sex change or in getting all exited[?][?][?][?][?][?]
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    dlrjjdlrjj Member Posts: 5,528 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It may not have been a sex change at all, lots of older folks go to the doctor to have dead skin removed.[}:)] stir, stir[:D]
    Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is an art form.
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    rossowmnrossowmn Member Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boy (no pun intended), the things kids have to go through these days! I spent my first six years in a country school that paid teachers so poorly they never stayed for more than a year, and I thought I had it rough trying to remember whether the new teacher was "Miss" or "Mrs."[}:)]
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    NOTPARSNOTPARS Member Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For Warmonger: I am a public high school teacher, 9th grade American history and 11th grade American government and I couldn't agree with you more. My experience, in a school of 1800+ in a socialist studies department of 17, is that the left will typically censor conservatives and or try to isolate them. That has been my regrettable experience these past 13 years. I am watched, censored, and the only one who has ever had to turn in his tests, quizzes, classwork assignments, homework assignments, and so forth for a thorough examination and censoring by a liberal vice principal. I have even been told that because I am into firearms, some of the other teachers worry that I might get mad and shoot them and or the school. What an outrage. No, unions and teacher associations don't want to get involved. I have contacted big name conservative talk show types and they aren't interested or only for a short period of time. Its a real shame.
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    WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,839 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like the simple solution is to send your kids to private school.
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,958 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In catholic schools they can prey, say the pledge and get fondled by priests, and you are worried about a 71 year old getting a sex change?
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    WarMongerWarMonger Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by NOTPARS
    For Warmonger: I am a public high school teacher, 9th grade American history and 11th grade American government and I couldn't agree with you more. My experience, in a school of 1800+ in a socialist studies department of 17, is that the left will typically censor conservatives and or try to isolate them. That has been my regrettable experience these past 13 years. I am watched, censored, and the only one who has ever had to turn in his tests, quizzes, classwork assignments, homework assignments, and so forth for a thorough examination and censoring by a liberal vice principal. I have even been told that because I am into firearms, some of the other teachers worry that I might get mad and shoot them and or the school. What an outrage. No, unions and teacher associations don't want to get involved. I have contacted big name conservative talk show types and they aren't interested or only for a short period of time. Its a real shame.



    I think Bill Oreily has asked that any teachers who are conservative and harrased by liberals should contact him. However, I think you would get more attention from him if you had a student come on with you and explain an instance of liberalism and how he was censored because of it. Find a student and then contact him.
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    joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If at 71 years of age he/she should have already known damn well what
    her/its/ his, sex is, something is wrong. Too late for a change or for
    teaching kids. Surely, he/her/it, should have retired or been dropped.
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    mpolansmpolans Member Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm surprised the sex-changee would WANT to go back to teaching. Have you seen pics of "her?" She's one fugly, manly looking thing. I'd imagine the kids would be incredibly cruel towards "her."
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    bsallybsally Member Posts: 3,165
    edited November -1
    quote:I'd imagine the kids would be incredibly cruel towards "her."
    Then again you could be surprised and they treat her better than most here would.[:0]
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    gun_runnergun_runner Member Posts: 8,999
    edited November -1
    Sick[xx(]

    Just wait, someone will be along any minut to defend this.
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by NOTPARS
    For Warmonger: I am a public high school teacher, 9th grade American history and 11th grade American government and I couldn't agree with you more. My experience, in a school of 1800+ in a socialist studies department of 17, is that the left will typically censor conservatives and or try to isolate them. That has been my regrettable experience these past 13 years. I am watched, censored, and the only one who has ever had to turn in his tests, quizzes, classwork assignments, homework assignments, and so forth for a thorough examination and censoring by a liberal vice principal. I have even been told that because I am into firearms, some of the other teachers worry that I might get mad and shoot them and or the school. What an outrage. No, unions and teacher associations don't want to get involved. I have contacted big name conservative talk show types and they aren't interested or only for a short period of time. Its a real shame.


    God Bless you for teaching our children. I feel horrible that we have degenerated to this point for good public servants like yourself.
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    victorlvlbvictorlvlb Member Posts: 5,004
    edited November -1
    She ,it, he is now going to even up the score with those kids.[:)][:)][:)]
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    pipskickspipskicks Member Posts: 3,049
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NOTPARS
    For Warmonger: I am a public high school teacher, 9th grade American history and 11th grade American government and I couldn't agree with you more. My experience, in a school of 1800+ in a socialist studies department of 17, is that the left will typically censor conservatives and or try to isolate them. That has been my regrettable experience these past 13 years. I am watched, censored, and the only one who has ever had to turn in his tests, quizzes, classwork assignments, homework assignments, and so forth for a thorough examination and censoring by a liberal vice principal. I have even been told that because I am into firearms, some of the other teachers worry that I might get mad and shoot them and or the school. What an outrage. No, unions and teacher associations don't want to get involved. I have contacted big name conservative talk show types and they aren't interested or only for a short period of time. Its a real shame.


    That is horrible, have you tried looking into private schools??

    I have to second that thing about firearms though, I am open about it (although my jobs are not career jobs yet) but I think if I stay in this area, I should really watch who I talk to about my firearm ownership because I haven't had as bad of an experience, but I get almost no positive reactions, and a ton of negative ones.
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    Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't really have a problem with an it being a teacher but why back at the same school?

    In a new environment the gender swapping wouldn't be an issue, the kids would just think "she" is an ugly woman.
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    dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    Sounds like the school did the politically correct thing and probably what legally will keep them out of the courtroom. By accepting her/his application they are not descriminating (sex or age) but she will be on the bottom of the list and likely has no contract with the school so they will just conveniently "not require her/his services.
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    nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like life imitates South Park once again.
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