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Slavery, Eugenics, and Genocide
scottm21166
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Some people in this country firmly believe in abortion. But why? Could a rational mind really support the needless murder of millions of innocent children?
With the anniversay of Roe V Wade, perhaps it is worth a look at the history of this procedure, it's true purpose and the ongoing support from people who claim compassion as their inspiration.
http://ironicsurrealism.com/2012/01/23/black-genocide-in-the-21st-century/
With the anniversay of Roe V Wade, perhaps it is worth a look at the history of this procedure, it's true purpose and the ongoing support from people who claim compassion as their inspiration.
http://ironicsurrealism.com/2012/01/23/black-genocide-in-the-21st-century/
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Didn't watch the video, but there are numerous studies that suggest up to 50% of black children have been exterminated over the past 30+ years.
Planned Parenthood obviously supports a fiscally conservative agenda.
Brad Steele
Results do not necessarily equal intent.
Didn't watch the video, but there are numerous studies that suggest up to 50% of black children have been exterminated over the past 30+ years.
Planned Parenthood obviously supports a fiscally conservative agenda.
Planned Parenthood sends folks into SF streets to raise money. They carry their clipboards and flash bright smiles, offer quick patter to hook your interest. I was stopped by a 20 something Black lady, very cheerfully asking for my support. I responded "any organization that has done so much to wipe out the Black race in America is OK by me" - I did this with my best friend standing next to me, he happens to be Black and knows I was being difficult. The girl didn't know whether to continue her spiel or slap me or cry I suppose. We chatted for a few minutes, I became my usual polite self and told her "no thanks".
While I agree results don't always equal intent, I think over time we have to realize there was a result and perhaps we were just a bit too close, were able to beguile ourselves into believing we didn't promote but only accepted the results. Looking back over time wiping out the Indians and enslaving Blacks (and killing about 5 million in the ocean crossing) was a result and we were OK with it. Fine line I suppose between promoting and accepting as the norm.
The "SOB"s in DC know this. That is why they support the illegals. Repobates get cheap labor. Demons get new voters. [:(!]
Right or wrong, good or bad, just or not.....it's the woman's decision, and her's alone.
She is the one that will have to live with it.
i couldn't agree more
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quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
Results do not necessarily equal intent.
Didn't watch the video, but there are numerous studies that suggest up to 50% of black children have been exterminated over the past 30+ years.
Planned Parenthood obviously supports a fiscally conservative agenda.
While I agree results don't always equal intent, I think over time we have to realize there was a result and perhaps we were just a bit too close, were able to beguile ourselves into believing we didn't promote but only accepted the results. Looking back over time wiping out the Indians and enslaving Blacks (and killing about 5 million in the ocean crossing) was a result and we were OK with it. Fine line I suppose between promoting and accepting as the norm.
The disproportionate over-representation of black infanticide by PP has always made me wonder how black activists can support the left's agenda.
After the Blue Dogs lost the Civil Rights fight in the 60's, mayhaps they simply were looking for another method to keep their majority. It has been very successful.
The 5 million slaves lost in the Atlantic crossing is an exaggeration, but the numbers are large. Between 10 and 12 million Africans were embarked in Africa, and though exact statistics are not available, somewhere between 8% and 13% did not make it to the new world. This puts the number buried in the Atlantic somewhere between 800,000 and 1.5 million. over a couple of hundred years.
The abortion industry in America kills this many blacks in under 2 years.
Brad Steele
She is the one that will have to live with it.
Gotta love that non-opinion cop-out! So, if it is her own child, and she kills it, that is OK? She is the one that has to live with it, right? FREE SUSAN SMITH!!!! IT WAS HER CHOICE!!!
Right or wrong, good or bad, just or not.....it's the woman's decision, and her's alone.
She is the one that will have to live with it.
I disagree. The baby is the one that has to die with it.
Right or wrong, good or bad, just or not.....it's the woman's decision, and her's alone.
She is the one that will have to live with it.
There is another that will not be able to live with the decision.
Brad Steele
Backed by an antisemitic Constitution, the majority reserve the right to ethn-eugenics
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Beg pardon????!! [:(!]
you happen to have a fondness for blacks. some dont! if any female was raped in my family by a white or especially a black i know they would have an abortion
Nunn, I take it you never heard THIS phrase from your Mother when you were growing up?
"I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it!"
Big Al (amazing to see full-grown men "quaking in their boots" at a berating from 5'9"-ish 140 lb woman)
The disproportionate over-representation of black infanticide by PP has always made me wonder how black activists can support the left's agenda.
After the Blue Dogs lost the Civil Rights fight in the 60's, mayhaps they simply were looking for another method to keep their majority. It has been very successful.
I think it is a matter of presentation and who is doing the presenting. If a middle aged, White conservative Republican like me proposed "Blacks commit crimes and drain resources, we should diminish their numbers in a co-ordinated effort" no one would go for it. Similarly, if we asserted Blacks compete with Whites for jobs and that hurts Whites - let's design a program that keeps them broke and at home AND we can point to them as shiftless and lazy" no one would go for it. Break up the Black family - pay for kids, don't pay as much if Pop is at home. No takers. But put a sympathetic spin on it, propose it as a right, call it Welfare and have it proposed by someone purporting to help and it can work.
A few years back when mainstreaming Ebonics was pushed by liberal sorts Arthur Schlesinger, the old New Deal/New Frontier/Great Society lion himself, properly branded it "an idea worthy of the Klan" in its attempt to control and isolate Blacks. He was kind of alone in his observation, at least alone on the left.
People in power don't give up keeping power. We went from outright killing Indians to mostly killing but rounding them up to die enroute and on reservations. Now we keep them isolated to die naturally early. It will take a while but they'll be gone eventually.
Like the song says - "beware of the pat on the back, it just might hold you back... I'll tell you, you can't see behind smilin' faces"
In a perfectly biblical world, we'd only have sex for procreation. That's not the case in the modern world. If that simple fact escapes you, then this argument has no purpose.
You are slightly mistaken, sir. I have a fondness for PEOPLE. I have a genuine love for humankind, regardless of color.
quote:some dont!
Too bad for them!
quote:you happen to have a fondness for blacks.
You are slightly mistaken, sir. I have a fondness for PEOPLE. I have a genuine love for humankind, regardless of color.
quote:some dont!
Too bad for them!
the point i am trying to make is if your wife was raped by any other race, you and her would be happy with the baby?
we wouldn't and wouldn't accept it
there is no sence in trying to discuss this with you. you have your opinion and i have mine. besides that when you read enough, you will either lock the thread or poof it
your the winner either way[;)]
During Ancient Times abortion was considered a crime worse than murder. lt was "treason". lt deprived the King a soldier for his Army. A worker for his fields. A mother for his SONS. And TAXPAYERS [:0]
good thing we are no longer considered slaves of the king/government [;)]
In case anyone cares. I am personally against abortion BUT.....what others do with their bodies is none of my business.
Then comes the argument of WHEN life starts..
The problem is....this is all opinion and feelings.
Have a nice night.
Abortion should be legal and available.
Particularly to the parents of future politicians.
Right or wrong, good or bad, just or not.....it's the woman's decision, and her's alone.
She is the one that will have to live with it.
I suppose that a man who has gotten a woman pregnant should have no say whatsoever as to whether or not his future child should be able to live. I can tell you for sure that it was not the woman's choice alone to get pregnant thus it seems it shouldnt be her choice to kill the child.
I can tell you what...if my wife was pregnant, and decided that she was going to get an abortion and that the decision was hers and hers alone than I would tell her she is crazy.
Adoption is always an option. It is free for birth Moms, this includes food, clothes, medical bills, etc. I know this to be true as I am the proud father of an adopted child, and the birth mother (by law and by my own consience) did not have to pay for anything that was needed during the pregnancy, or post pregnancy issues that were related (this included emotional counseling with a social worker that I had to pay 100 bucks an hour for). I can tell you I have never had a better return on an investment...ever.
The local news lady said yesterday morning that studies show that abortion is safer than full term pregnancy.
Safer for whom?
quote:Originally posted by BTDT
Right or wrong, good or bad, just or not.....it's the woman's decision, and her's alone.
She is the one that will have to live with it.
I suppose that a man who has gotten a woman pregnant should have no say whatsoever as to whether or not his future child should be able to live. I can tell you for sure that it was not the woman's choice alone to get pregnant thus it seems it shouldnt be her choice to kill the child.
I can tell you what...if my wife was pregnant, and decided that she was going to get an abortion and that the decision was hers and hers alone than I would tell her she is crazy.
Adoption is always an option. It is free for birth Moms, this includes food, clothes, medical bills, etc. I know this to be true as I am the proud father of an adopted child, and the birth mother (by law and by my own consience) did not have to pay for anything that was needed during the pregnancy, or post pregnancy issues that were related (this included emotional counseling with a social worker that I had to pay 100 bucks an hour for). I can tell you I have never had a better return on an investment...ever.
that is assuming that the male actually wants to be the MAN and stick by the woman and raise the child...
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that most committed couples (ie. married or strongly considering marriage) choose to keep an "accident" and that most abortions are from "couples" that only had a random intimate encounter, or the BOYfriend made scarce when he found out about the pregnancy.
Of course this brings me to another issue altogether in modern society...the fact that the responsibility/blame is placed solely on the female. For some reason a promiscuous female is a "sister" while a promiscuous male is a "YOU ROCK BRO!!!"
Some people in this country firmly believe in abortion. But why? Could a rational mind really support the needless murder of millions of innocent children?
With the anniversay of Roe V Wade, perhaps it is worth a look at the history of this procedure, it's true purpose and the ongoing support from people who claim compassion as their inspiration.
http://ironicsurrealism.com/2012/01/23/black-genocide-in-the-21st-century/
43 million murdered babies. Could one have cured cancer by now? Another Einstein? Edison? [V] The greatest holocaust is happening right here!
i tell you what, i live near a "planned parent hood" clinic, who ever wants to step up to the plate, ill even help if you need it,if i can get them to have the baby if your willing to take it, one a month sound good?
How about people take responsibility for their actions! If you spread those legs or slip your pecker in for a good time, then you better step up and be a parent if there is a pregnancy. How about that!
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i tell you what, i live near a "planned parent hood" clinic, who ever wants to step up to the plate, ill even help if you need it,if i can get them to have the baby if your willing to take it, one a month sound good?
How about people take responsibility for their actions! If you spread those legs or slip your pecker in for a good time, then you better step up and be a parent if there is a pregnancy. How about that!
exactly my point LET THEM TAKE RESPONSIBILTY by making their OWN choice, and if anyone has an objection, then put up or shut up
oh! they cant do that, oh! i dont want to go that far and adopt it, ill just sit here and tell others how to live their life
quote:Originally posted by Leeroy Jenkins
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i tell you what, i live near a "planned parent hood" clinic, who ever wants to step up to the plate, ill even help if you need it,if i can get them to have the baby if your willing to take it, one a month sound good?
How about people take responsibility for their actions! If you spread those legs or slip your pecker in for a good time, then you better step up and be a parent if there is a pregnancy. How about that!
exactly my point LET THEM TAKE RESPONSIBILTY by making their OWN choice, and if anyone has an objection, then put up or shut up
oh! they cant do that, oh! i dont want to go that far and adopt it, ill just sit here and tell others how to live their life
the OP wasn't about random people having sex that results in an unwanted pregnancy. It is about the systematic genocide of an unwanted population with-in the US. Namely Blacks. You guys really need to watch the video or read the articles before you hijack a topic for arguements sake.[:0]
If I wanted to prompt an abortion debate all I would have to write is..abortion is good.... or bad...so, PLEASE [:I]
and shame on you for not knowing your thread will be hijacked by now[8D]
I agree 100% as long as the government is not paying for it,,I did not have sex with that woman so I should not be paying for her abortion..
quote:Originally posted by nunn
quote:you happen to have a fondness for blacks.
You are slightly mistaken, sir. I have a fondness for PEOPLE. I have a genuine love for humankind, regardless of color.
quote:some dont!
Too bad for them!
the point i am trying to make is if your wife was raped by any other race, you and her would be happy with the baby?
we wouldn't and wouldn't accept it
there is no sence in trying to discuss this with you. you have your opinion and i have mine. besides that when you read enough, you will either lock the thread or poof it
your the winner either way[;)]
What a disturbing question to pose to anyone. If my daughter or granddaughter was raped, and became pregnant, it would be her choice whether to keep it or place it up for adoption. It would still be her child, formed from her body. Raising that child would be an act of victory over the rape. My stepdaughter already has eight kids, five of them adopted, four of which are hispanic, so one half-black grandchild would only round things out a bit. She'd get the last laugh.
quote:Originally posted by jwb267
quote:Originally posted by nunn
quote:you happen to have a fondness for blacks.
You are slightly mistaken, sir. I have a fondness for PEOPLE. I have a genuine love for humankind, regardless of color.
quote:some dont!
Too bad for them!
the point i am trying to make is if your wife was raped by any other race, you and her would be happy with the baby?
we wouldn't and wouldn't accept it
there is no sence in trying to discuss this with you. you have your opinion and i have mine. besides that when you read enough, you will either lock the thread or poof it
your the winner either way[;)]
What a disturbing question to pose to anyone. If my daughter or granddaughter was raped, and became pregnant, it would be her choice whether to keep it or place it up for adoption. It would still be her child, formed from her body. Raising that child would be an act of victory over the rape. My stepdaughter already has eight kids, five of them adopted, four of which are hispanic, so one half-black grandchild would only round things out a bit. She'd get the last laugh.
I would never see it that way.
That is a big "what if?" and I already told y'all I don't play the "what if?" game anymore. That scenario would be extremely unlikely, since my wife is post-menopausal, but I have always been pretty good at accepting circumstances I can't change, and doing what I have to do.
quote:we wouldn't and wouldn't accept it
Well, that's you.
quote:there is no sence in trying to discuss this with you. you have your opinion and i have mine. besides that when you read enough, you will either lock the thread or poof it
Contrary to not-so-popular belief, I lock and poof threads that become objectionable, and not just because a few people disagree with me.
quote:your the winner either way
No argument there!
Then two things happened to me. In college I went and saw a video of a third-trimester abortion. It's still very difficult for me to talk about. And then my wife got pregnant and I watched a sonogram. After the sonogram the OB/GYN sat us down and explained what our options were if the Down's test came back positive. I remember sitting there, utterly stunned, thinking to myself, "That little person could be killed? That little person with fingers and toes and who is wiggling all around?"
At the same time, I've read some absolutely gut-wrenching accounts of people who have had third-trimester abortions. There has been something horribly wrong with the baby, and in 99.99% of such cases the body naturally aborts the baby (the mother has a miscarriage). In one case though, the child would be "born," would be in horrific pain, would be immediately whisked away for an operation that had an infentesimally small chance of success. And success was defined as the child not immediately dying. The child would never talk or laugh or crawl or do any sort of voluntary things. It would eat and sleep and be in terrible pain. And so the parents decided, after agonizing thought, to have an abortion.
I cannot fault them for one bit, and I would not even insult them by questioning their motives. In fact, if was even in such a position in my life I hope someone would take such mercy on me.
Like everything, there are no real pat simple answers.