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You don't have to like me....
edgecam
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... But you will respect me.
When some one starts a conversation with "you don't have to like but you will respect me" what is your first response?
My boss called me into his office today and started out with that then went on to tell me I am too outspoken and brash and need to tone it down. I told him I did't like his managerial skills and he had to earn respect. He gave me a final warning and put me on 6 month probation. If I didn't have money in savings and other ways to make money I might care more. The only thing keeping me there is the benefits for now.
When some one starts a conversation with "you don't have to like but you will respect me" what is your first response?
My boss called me into his office today and started out with that then went on to tell me I am too outspoken and brash and need to tone it down. I told him I did't like his managerial skills and he had to earn respect. He gave me a final warning and put me on 6 month probation. If I didn't have money in savings and other ways to make money I might care more. The only thing keeping me there is the benefits for now.
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With that warning I'd get a job search going.
Quick.
Oh, and there are employees who are A-Holes too ... don't know who's who in this adventure story but all should be open to possible plot twists and surprise endings.
Thats why I started my own business. I cannot work for people that live just to treat their employees like crap, just because they can!
People like that, almost always have some kind of a mental problem, that makes them want to take their problems out on the World, ie... Small BBs ect... [:D]
But you are right Respect is earned.
If you can't perform your job... Then something else needs to happen.
What we have here, is a failure to communicate! [:o)]
Thats why I started my own business. I cannot work for people that live just to treat their employees like crap, just because they can!
People like that, almost always have some kind of a mental problem, that makes them want to take their problems out on the World, ie... Small BBs ect... [:D]
Perfect! M1AGuy posted as I was Typing!
Is he your Boss! [:D]
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
15 years of doing things the same way and I have never had so much as a warning. The new guy has a problem with anyone that questions him. There are 8 guys that are on their final warnings for stupid crap. I'm just hanging out using up my vacation time.
quote:Originally posted by m1aguy
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
15 years of doing things the same way and I have never had so much as a warning. The new guy has a problem with anyone that questions him. There are 8 guys that are on their final warnings for stupid crap. I'm just hanging out using up my vacation time.
Just ask M1AGuy what he does for a living.
He won't reply.
Two rules, first rule, tell them what they want to hear, then do what you have to do. Second rule, anything worth doing usually gets done despite management, not because of management.
The guys that worked for me almost universally despised me, over half respected me. When they started to complain I'd always tell them to do the work first, then do the complaining. You've earned the right to complain, *after* the job is finished. Like I said, I was almost universally hated, but every job I've ever walked away from tried to hire me back within weeks or at the most a couple of months.
quote:Originally posted by m1aguy
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
15 years of doing things the same way and I have never had so much as a warning. The new guy has a problem with anyone that questions him. There are 8 guys that are on their final warnings for stupid crap. I'm just hanging out using up my vacation time.
There are ways to straighten out a-hole bosses. Get creative.
There is a website of how to be a bigger ahole to your soon to be boss in ways he can't do anything about it. At least not legally.
Its either you or him, but this doesnt end happily ever after at retirement age.
quote:Originally posted by edgecam
quote:Originally posted by m1aguy
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
15 years of doing things the same way and I have never had so much as a warning. The new guy has a problem with anyone that questions him. There are 8 guys that are on their final warnings for stupid crap. I'm just hanging out using up my vacation time.
Just ask M1AGuy what he does for a living.
He won't reply.
He surfs the interweb looking for stories of crooked cops so that he has more ammo to bash law enforcement with.
... But you will respect me.
When some one starts a conversation with "you don't have to like but you will respect me" what is your first response?
My boss called me into his office today and started out with that then went on to tell me I am too outspoken and brash and need to tone it down. I told him I did't like his managerial skills and he had to earn respect. He gave me a final warning and put me on 6 month probation. If I didn't have money in savings and other ways to make money I might care more. The only thing keeping me there is the benefits for now.
Ron,
I currently have an opening for a UG programmer here in Texas, and will have a second opening in the Q2, and possibly a 3rd in Q3 or Q4.
You don't have to like your boss, but do not talk bad about him at work. If you talk bad about him elsewhere, that attitude will carry back to the job and cause nothing but problems. Hold it in, or find another job.
quote:Originally posted by wiplash
quote:Originally posted by edgecam
quote:Originally posted by m1aguy
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
15 years of doing things the same way and I have never had so much as a warning. The new guy has a problem with anyone that questions him. There are 8 guys that are on their final warnings for stupid crap. I'm just hanging out using up my vacation time.
Just ask M1AGuy what he does for a living.
He won't reply.
He surfs the interweb looking for stories of crooked cops so that he has more ammo to bash law enforcement with.
ZULU thanks for the laugh, I wonder how much interweb surfer pays?
quote:Originally posted by edgecam
... But you will respect me.
When some one starts a conversation with "you don't have to like but you will respect me" what is your first response?
My boss called me into his office today and started out with that then went on to tell me I am too outspoken and brash and need to tone it down. I told him I did't like his managerial skills and he had to earn respect. He gave me a final warning and put me on 6 month probation. If I didn't have money in savings and other ways to make money I might care more. The only thing keeping me there is the benefits for now.
Ron,
I currently have an opening for a UG programmer here in Texas, and will have a second opening in the Q2, and possibly a 3rd in Q3 or Q4.
If we didn't have family and a new house Texas would be on our short list of places to move.
Expected to get asked to come to the Captain's office. But never heard any else.
Oh, and by the way, that supervisor quit 3 weeks later. And who'da'thought that!
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
i've been there, more than once actually. once, i knew it was coming and had an escape plan. when the heat got to that level, i cut and run. on my resume, i left the job for another, more substantial opportunity. in actuality, they were just waiting for a convenient time to fire me. it makes a difference.
If you got a final warning, sounds like you have been mouthing off a lot. If you don't like the boss, then leave. I would have fired you already.
Fine, you're fired!
Respect is earned not a birthright. But really you are unique and very special, just like everyone else.
I used to look at it as being earned, but have accepted it as being lost. Everyone should be given respect, it is up to him if he keeps it. [:)]
Plenty of bosses are A-Holes. Absolutely so. Problem is, they are bosses. So it's either suck it up, take the risk to try and change things or make the best exit you can come up with.
With that warning I'd get a job search going.
Quick.
Oh, and there are employees who are A-Holes too ... don't know who's who in this adventure story but all should be open to possible plot twists and surprise endings.
^^^^^^^^^^Pretty much what I was thinking.......I ya' don't like the boss's managerial style, you always have the option of ifnding a different boss. If HIS boss doesn't like his managerial style, HE may be looking for a new boss before it's over with, but if you intend to make that your mission, I suggest you take a lunch'cause it's likely to be a l-o-n-g day
In the end the boss is the boss, if you do what he says and get your paycheck whats their to complain about, if productivity drops then you can say look were doing it your way. But often times employees get mad because the new way is harder or isnt what they are used too. And being outspoke and or mouthy is a quck way to be shown the door, if you dont like it find another job or make yourself better and be the boss.
Family friend was the outspoke type and the boss was always a jack ace, well he mouthed is way out of a good paying job and a second job. He contended he was always right, and valued his stance over his jobs. Well now he works at NAPA as a parts runner, im guessing he really showed them
You don't have to like your boss, but you have to do what you're told. Undermining their authority and openly disrespecting them is a good way to wind up unemployed.
Yes, you should respect the boss. Even if he doesn't deserve it. Shooting off your mouth will not improve things.
Too old to live...too young to die...
Do your job correctly, respect the position... And ignore him otherwise.
You'll have your day soon enough...
Another thing about working there, no egos....the boss's know that 80% of the people under them are very capable of doing his job, and will, in fact, do it someday. Makes for some "thick skinned' folks who will tell you off right back at ya. I like it...no bawl babys.
Respecting the man is earned. Respecting the title/office is mandatory or you find yourself flipping through the classifieds.
You don't have to like your boss, but you have to do what you're told. Undermining their authority and openly disrespecting them is a good way to wind up unemployed.
Some people dont like to be told what to do regardless of whos telling them or whatever it is. Those types never seem to get it, and seem to know everything. I always thought to myself, well I wonder why this space cadet is the President of the US or the CEO of a major corporation since he knows so much
Clouder..
And I have had a lot of them! [:o)]
[:D]
Thats another thing I love about my job. All the boss's, from my supervisor to the plant manager, has worked their way up the ladder over a period of years, and most could go back down to my level and do my job if they had too. This makes them very understanding of all problems, becasue they have been there, done that. A result of this is there are very few A-hole boss's. The A-holes never got promoted in the first place. The few that I have run across, and pissed me off, Ive told to F' off. Everyone know they are A-holes, but they are only there because they are very good at what they do (engineers mostly, not involed in day to day ops, so you dont have to deal with them much to start with), so higher management puts up with them.
Another thing about working there, no egos....the boss's know that 80% of the people under them are very capable of doing his job, and will, in fact, do it someday. Makes for some "thick skinned' folks who will tell you off right back at ya. I like it...no bawl babys.
See, the problem is that Engineers (especially in your industry) are smart enough to see through your union bullslime and just hate you for the impediments that you place in the way of them working.
It's not necessarily that they are jerks, but that you are union and they have work to get done without having to put up with your cow cookies.
Having said that, I acually like the guys I work for, they treat me pretty well. For the most part they tell me what they want done and then leave me alone to get it done.Dave