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Some Collectivist Toughts to Ponder...
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Some counter-individualist views.......
"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." -- Soviet Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev, addressing the 20th Congress of the Soviet Communist Party, 2-25-56
"The unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of the interests of the individual." -- Adolph Hitler
"We need to stop worrying about the rights of the individual and start worrying about what is best for society." -- Hillary Clinton
"...we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men." -- Adolf Hitler, 10-7-33
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." -- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, June 228, 2004.
"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole." -- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, National Socialist German Workers' ("Nazi") Party
"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." -- Soviet Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev, addressing the 20th Congress of the Soviet Communist Party, 2-25-56
"The unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of the interests of the individual." -- Adolph Hitler
"We need to stop worrying about the rights of the individual and start worrying about what is best for society." -- Hillary Clinton
"...we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men." -- Adolf Hitler, 10-7-33
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." -- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, June 228, 2004.
"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole." -- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, National Socialist German Workers' ("Nazi") Party
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Hillary is so mis-understood [xx(]
good post
It may prove enlightening and should make one shudder about what some have been advocating, knowingly or not.[;)]
Collectivism leads to totalitarianism, inevitably.
America was founded upon individualist principles, unarguably. This Republic cannot survive under collectivist governance, nor with our citizenry advocating/demanding collectivist policy.
It is totally incompatible with everything we as a nation were founded on and with how we were intended to be governed.
We had best wake up and soon, or it shall all be gone.
It is what it is.
I would hope that a good many of our esteemed members would read this small sampling of collectivist commentary, made by historical figures.
It may prove enlightening and should make one shudder about what some have been advocating, knowingly or not.[;)]
Collectivism leads to totalitarianism, inevitably.
America was founded upon individualist principles, unarguably. This Republic cannot survive under collectivist governance, nor with our citizenry advocating/demanding collectivist policy.
It is totally incompatible with everything we as a nation were founded on and with how we were intended to be governed.
We had best wake up and soon, or it shall all be gone.
It is what it is.
it will be read and dismissed under the that was then, this is no theory. People really do not believe this can, and is happening here [V]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
I would hope that a good many of our esteemed members would read this small sampling of collectivist commentary, made by historical figures.
It may prove enlightening and should make one shudder about what some have been advocating, knowingly or not.[;)]
Collectivism leads to totalitarianism, inevitably.
America was founded upon individualist principles, unarguably. This Republic cannot survive under collectivist governance, nor with our citizenry advocating/demanding collectivist policy.
It is totally incompatible with everything we as a nation were founded on and with how we were intended to be governed.
We had best wake up and soon, or it shall all be gone.
It is what it is.
it will be read and dismissed under the that was then, this is no theory. People really do not believe this can, and is happening here [V]
Sad, but likely true Todesengel my Brother.
Regardless, I will keep hammering the alarm-bell and attempting to illustrate the philosophical-divide, when and where the opportunity arises.
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin
E Pluris unum. Some Latin dude
Here's a couple of quotes you forgot:
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin
E Pluris unum. Some Latin dude
Ben was correct, in the context of the rebellion. I find that quote to be specifically applicable to today's circumstances if one is a on the side of the Republic, rather than a sycophant-Torrie for big-government.[;)]
How's that red-coat fit P3?[:)][:D]
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Here's a couple of quotes you forgot:
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin
E Pluris unum. Some Latin dude
Ben was correct, in the context of the rebellion. I find that quote to be specifically applicable to today's circumstances if one is a on the side of the Republic, rather than a sycophant-Torrie for big-government.[;)]
How's that red-coat fit P3?[:)][:D]
We are all currently hanging alone. People everyday being charged with "tax evasion", being singled out for "clinging to guns and religion", being charged with various unconstitutional laws. We sit back, and allow our fellow country men, and women to be prosecuted by a government out of control, and allow ourselves to be robbed under the guise of "the greater good". We are all hanging, but we still have our toes on the chair so we sit back and continue to do nothing. I just wonder what it will take to do something. The chair is wobbling people, and we can't stand on our toes very much longer.
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Here's a couple of quotes you forgot:
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin
E Pluris unum. Some Latin dude
Ben was correct, in the context of the rebellion. I find that quote to be specifically applicable to today's circumstances if one is a on the side of the Republic, rather than a sycophant-Torrie for big-government.[;)]
How's that red-coat fit P3?[:)][:D]
We are all currently hanging alone. People everyday being charged with "tax evasion", being singled out for "clinging to guns and religion", being charged with various unconstitutional laws. We sit back, and allow our fellow country men, and women to be prosecuted by a government out of control, and allow ourselves to be robbed under the guise of "the greater good". We are all hanging, but we still have our toes on the chair so we sit back and continue to do nothing. I just wonder what it will take to do something. The chair is wobbling people, and we can't stand on our toes very much longer.
I am thinking that we should unite under the shade of the Constitution, rather than under some perversion of "societal good" or government knows best.
Therein lay the separation of free men from the remainder of the citizenry. This is also the reason why "hanging separately" is my only available option, under those conditions.
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Here's a couple of quotes you forgot:
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin
E Pluris unum. Some Latin dude
Ben was correct, in the context of the rebellion. I find that quote to be specifically applicable to today's circumstances if one is a on the side of the Republic, rather than a sycophant-Torrie for big-government.[;)]
How's that red-coat fit P3?[:)][:D]
We are all currently hanging alone. People everyday being charged with "tax evasion", being singled out for "clinging to guns and religion", being charged with various unconstitutional laws. We sit back, and allow our fellow country men, and women to be prosecuted by a government out of control, and allow ourselves to be robbed under the guise of "the greater good". We are all hanging, but we still have our toes on the chair so we sit back and continue to do nothing. I just wonder what it will take to do something. The chair is wobbling people, and we can't stand on our toes very much longer.
I am thinking that we should unite under the shade of the Constitution, rather than under some perversion of "societal good" or government knows best.
Therein lay the separation of free men from the remainder of the citizenry. This is also the reason why "hanging separately" is my only available option, under those conditions.
I agree, but getting people to unite under anything that may put them in harms way, or complicate their modern life is difficult to say the least. You have no idea how many times in a week I am called names because of my beliefs. I will not bend, I will not yield. I wear each one of these names like a badge of honor. Believe it or not Texas seems to be the place where I get the most resistance about being a constitutionalist. I had a guy call the police on me when I carried my fs200 into a hotel in Arlington.
I believe when the time comes I will not hang alone, but I will hang with a few like minded individuals. My only hope at this point is that I will not live to be paraded alive through the news media like some rat on display
Remember the little town in Louisiana that kept refugees out from Katrina ravaged New Orleans? People will fight if they see a need to.
Remember the little town in Louisiana that kept refugees out from Katrina ravaged New Orleans? People will fight if they see a need to.
Last I heard, they were getting the bejeezus sued out of them.
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Remember the little town in Louisiana that kept refugees out from Katrina ravaged New Orleans? People will fight if they see a need to.
Last I heard, they were getting the bejeezus sued out of them.
Of course[V]
Lest we forget, we must remember that our current President stated during his campaign that he would appoint SCROTUS Justices who would 'Do what is best for the people', and in response to Suter's resignation, that he would appoint a justice who 'felt empathy' for various minorities.
While these statements on the surface, seem to promote the individual, any rational understanding points to the elimination of Constitutional adherence as a prerequisite.
There is no greater anti-collectivist document in the history of human-kind than the U.S. Constitution. As our government strays from its legitimate roots, and it very legitimacy itself, we find the lure of collectivism to be attractive to many.
Brad Steele