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Your take on Walker, Carson and Cruz.
Oakie
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Ladies and gentleman, give me the pros and cons, (in your opinion) without starting an argument, on Scott Walker and Dr. Ben Carson. I will also add Ted Cruz. I am leaning towards these three guys and want to here facts about these guys from you and your point of view. PLEASE, NO ARGUMENTS BETWEEN ANYONE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEMThank you, Oakie
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If Cruz stays this way I might have some hope.
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=657242
If Cruz stays this way I might have some hope.
+1 to this.Watch the vid. It pretty much explains all the text on it's own.
Win the election, and you have a good shot at 16 years to fix a bunch of problems.
I like Scott Walker and the work he has done in his state. Executive experience is a good thing for a POTUS. Put Cruz as the VP candidate and you have a powerhouse intellectual team who are both good communicators.
Win the election, and you have a good shot at 16 years to fix a bunch of problems.
+ 100...
How do we get ALL the R votes to go that way?
If someone gets in and siphons off votes,we're SCREWED anyway!!
I like Scott Walker and the work he has done in his state. Executive experience is a good thing for a POTUS. Put Cruz as the VP candidate and you have a powerhouse intellectual team who are both good communicators.
Win the election, and you have a good shot at 16 years to fix a bunch of problems.
Walker has demonstrated that he can get down in the mud with the liberals and climb out a winner, with his core values and integrity still intact. I think the liberals are scared of him because doesn't cower form them and has beaten them over and over again on their own ground.
Dr. Ben Carson's past statements on the second amendment eliminates him from my list. Scott Walker I'm still on the fence on. Ted Cruz I can vote for if he is the nominee.
I too had serious reservations regarding past comments he had made, however I know someone that is close to him that questioned those comments and had an intellectual conversation with him like he had never had with a pro 2nd guy before. Dr. Carson has admitted that he was not as well informed nor had he studied the subject as well as he should have when he made those comments. Dr. Carson is undoubtedly pro individual rights and definitely pro 2nd Amendment.
My most convincing argument for him is he is absolutely the best person running for any office in America. The man is a saint. He and his wife have funded kids in every State with scholarships. He is a truly spiritual Christian who believes in God and in the good in man. I am convinced that he wants to and has the best chance to return America back to something the founding fathers would recognize.
I do not disparage Cruz (especially after the posted video) or Walker. Of the politicians running they are good choices, I am just sick of politicians.
BTW I like all of them but Ted stands out to me.
Ted
http://ballotpedia.org/Ted_Cruz_presidential_campaign,_2016
The Dr.
http://ballotpedia.org/Ben_Carson_presidential_campaign,_2016
The Gov
http://ballotpedia.org/Scott_Walker_presidential_campaign,_2016
Here is a good place to do some research:
http://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidate_ratings_and_scorecards#Crowdpac.com
My take on it is simple: ANY of them would be quantum levels better than The Hildabeest.
You'll get no argument from me on that, but we'd still be -22 on a scale of 0-100 with the best of them!
Walker will obviously be seen as anti-labor and needs the support of struggling American families to win. He won't get enough of that support.
Cruz suffers the same handicap that should have doomed Barackus Obamus, lack of experience, and many voters will be loath to make that mistake again.
The white house press corp had better get used to the phrase, "madam president".
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Walker will obviously be seen as anti-labor and needs the support of struggling American families to win. He won't get enough of that support.I have paid little attention to any of it so far, but "yep" to the above quote.
There is no such thing as a 100% perfect candidate. You can wait until the end of time for one, you can withhold your vote until you find one, and you can bemoan the perceived shortcomings of the eventual nominee as loudly as you wish.
But while you're doing all that, the liberals, socialists, and "progressives" will laugh at your naivete - and elect one of their own.
Cruz: I like what I hear so far. I have nothing bad I can point to at this point. May be my first choice so far.
Walker: I like the way he stood up to the unions in WI. Nothing bad I can see so far. Need more info. I would prefer he was a college graduate. He dropped out to go to work. Hate to sound elitist but I think the president should have a degree for credibility.
Would greatly prefer any of these three over any Democrat.
Too old to live...too young to die...
With all the considerable respect due to kimi, pwillie, and others of like temperament, permit me this:
There is no such thing as a 100% perfect candidate. You can wait until the end of time for one, you can withhold your vote until you find one, and you can bemoan the perceived shortcomings of the eventual nominee as loudly as you wish.
But while you're doing all that, the liberals, socialists, and "progressives" will laugh at your naivete - and elect one of their own.
Can't argue with a word, Rocky. It is unfortunate that some forget that to do anything, first the election must be won.
With all the considerable respect due to kimi, pwillie, and others of like temperament, permit me this:
There is no such thing as a 100% perfect candidate. You can wait until the end of time for one, you can withhold your vote until you find one, and you can bemoan the perceived shortcomings of the eventual nominee as loudly as you wish.
But while you're doing all that, the liberals, socialists, and "progressives" will laugh at your naivete - and elect one of their own.
+1
My Dad told me the only 100% perfect candidate is yourself.
Carson is the best of the bunch on almost every level, (I might dump him in a hot second if I read his 2a comments), but he has zero charisma.
Walker will obviously be seen as anti-labor and needs the support of struggling American families to win. He won't get enough of that support.
Cruz suffers the same handicap that should have doomed Barackus Obamus, lack of experience, and many voters will be loath to make that mistake again.
The white house press corp had better get used to the phrase, "madam president".
Carson, IMO, seems to be a good man, but is not now, and probably will never be of the temperament to be President. He is prone to saying things without thinking them through and when called upon them, is quick to backtrack. If one has convictions, one needs to stand by them, or not articulate them.
Walker can frame his 'anti-labor' stance as an anti-establishment stance if done properly. There is nothing anti-labor about attacking monopolistic unions that are strangling the economy. He seems to be taking the path of least resistance at the moment, however, and this will get him nowhere. I think he is a valuable addition to the field, and should be considered as VP candidate if nothing else.
Cruz signed the stupid letter to he Ayatollahs earlier this year, which was, IMO, a childish and non-Presidential thing to do. An open letter to Obama is one thing, but an open letter to a tacit enemy is not well thought out. He has jumped immeasurably with his criticism of McConnell, however. This was obviously a Presidential campaign speech, as he will now and forever be ignored by the majority in the Senate (not that he was able to garner a whole lot of support to begin with). He is punching the right buttons now, though his transparent lap-dogging to Trump is a bit off-putting.
If Cruz can elevate the level of his discourse just a little, he also would be worth considering. He seems to be an honest and genuine person, which will serve him well as the race continues.
Brad Steele