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Plane Ride Today -- B-17

Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
I was able to take one item off the bucket list today and had a flight on a B-17. The Liberty Foundation's Madras Maiden. Come along with me in photos...

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Firing up the Pratt and Witneys.

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Right turn after takeoff from Salt Lake City International. Taken from the open turtleback hatch. Hold onto your hat!

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Seated across from me was a guy who actually flew B-17s in WWII. It was too loud to talk much, and he didn't remember many details, but he was lost in other memories the whole flight. Crisp salute, Warrior!

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Top Floor: Menswear and Funny Clocks!

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The real front office, where the actual business was conducted.


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The fabled ball turret, which was surprisingly the safest place to be during combat - if you could squeeze yourself in there.

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Pretty day over Utah.

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No bogeys today!

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Mission complete!
I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.

Comments

  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dude that's cool!
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab


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    Pretty sure that's where my grandfather would have sat. He was a radio operator.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,286 ******
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the pics, you lucky dog.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most excellent, sir! Glad you got to check a bucket list box.
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,572 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [8D] I got a chance to ride in these 2 back in 2010 was a christmas present from my wife
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,535 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by savage170
    [8D] I got a chance to ride in these 2 back in 2010 was a christmas present from my wife
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    Both you lucky dogs. That top one Savage is a B25 Mitchell? Cant remember when I seen one of those.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,387 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    good for you Rocky
    I would think your bucket list would be a short one [:0]
    but always glad to see some one get to check one off there list
    congrats on a nice day

    I would think the older pilot is one of the few we have left
    nice to see he got to take a ride I would guess his mind was a flurry of memories of days gone by
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    Great You had the Flight, Rocky! Nice Weather a big plus! Any time round old planes is fun!

    That You, Thumbs up?
  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    now I am jealous[:)]
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
  • TombstonejimTombstonejim Member Posts: 190
    edited November -1
    I just love the sound of great big radials starting up.

    I was the airfield ops officer of Robert Grey AAF in Texas around 74 75 time frame. We had one of the last and largest stocks of 115/145 av gas around. The air guard was still flying KC 97's at that time and would land and RON just fill up on the 115/145 that they could not get from the air force. It was the only way they could run full power on their engines. A large crowed would usually gather just to see them fire the things up.

    KC 97's had R 4360 engines. That's 4360 cubic inches for you car guys.
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    How cool! Had the chance a few years ago in Oshkosh but didn't have the funds at $400 for an hour ride. Maybe someday. Thanks for the pics
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice way to spend a day.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • Ford 23Ford 23 Member Posts: 3,129
    edited November -1
    Can only imagine the thoughts going through the Old Gentleman in radio seat. They sometimes give the WW2 B17 crew members a free ride

    When seeing the picture of the Bombardier position brought to mind, only recently read, how a local died from a direct ack ack to the front of the plane directly in the plexaglass
  • Sparty_76Sparty_76 Member Posts: 714 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very cool! I am jealous!
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So cool!
    I'm glad you got to do it!!
  • merlinnmerlinn Member Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You must be a happy boy!
    Now you can go home and throw rocks at your Cessna!
  • CKPW1CKPW1 Member Posts: 43
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by savage170
    [8D] I got a chance to ride in these 2 back in 2010 was a christmas present from my wife
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    Let me know if you die, I want to marry your wife just before Christmas. ;)
    BKW
  • themountainmanthemountainman Member Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You lucky dog. Thanks for pics.
    There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who can do math and those who can't. :?
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know if "fun" would be the right word, but it looks like you had an enjoyable and memorable good day. Maybe fun is the right word.

    Thanks for the pictures. [:)]
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    going to do it this year been wantin for a while[^]
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Nice pics. Thanks for taking the time to share them with us.
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad you got the opportunity to do one of your bucket list. And I hope you live long enough to do them all
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well good for you hopefully I'll be around long enough to do that some day.
  • XXCrossXXCross Member Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know exactly what that aviator is thinking about, look closely and you might make out the tear in the corner of his eye.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is just SO COOL!!!!
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like you had a wonderful day, Rocky.

    Thank you for sharing your ride and pictures with us.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,491 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow what a great day !!!!! Thanks for sharing !!!
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As followup, this B-17G was built in 1944, too late to see combat. It was used as a research aircraft at Wright-Patterson AFB for almost 20 years, then was sold as surplus for $2000. (Back then, you could get a $2000 B-17, and get more than that back just by draining and selling the fuel in it, then scrap the airframe and triple your money.)

    The plane was used as a fire ant spray bomber in Georgia for a while, then sat as a museum piece before being bought by the Liberty Foundation and refurbished for flight. It's the third B-17 the Foundation has flown.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    I was able to take one item off the bucket list today and had a flight on a B-17. The Liberty Foundation's Madras Maiden. Come along with me in photos...

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    Firing up the Pratt and Witneys.



    Good to hear you had a good time, Rocky.

    I took the first trip of the day when I flew in the 'Aluminum Overcast' a few years back, and they did the complete start up and run-up of the engines after they boarded us. Shook the old girl up quite a bit.

    I thought it interesting that one of the Wright Cyclones she was sporting at the time was manufactured by Studebaker. Had never known that Studebaker manufactured big radial engines during the war.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, Don. I must have had a brain lock because the B-17 did use Curtis Wright Cyclones, not P&W engines. R1820s, I believe. That's 1,820 cubic inches.

    The two questions I didn't get to ask the pilots (because they were going right back up on the next hop) were about control pressures and fuel consumption. I recall reading that guys who flunked out of B-24 school because they weren't strong enough to handle its very heavy controls went to B-17s, so I assume the Fortress was lighter to fly.

    I'm also going to assume that the engines burned roughly 50 gallons per hour (per engine) at cruise, based on DC-3 performance. But I could confirm neither.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is beyond awesome, Sir! Thank you for sharing.
  • fugawefugawe Member Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you get the chance to do this, take it. Sell a gun or two if you have to, it's worth it. I can only describe the experience as profound. I flew in the '9-0-9' about 15 yrs ago, paid $350. There is nothing like the sound of four radials.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Big radials have always fascinated me, Rocky, and though these are small in comparison to the really big ones they are impressive bits of engineering all on their own.

    Here is a front view of Aluminum Overcast No. 1.



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    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • bk0331bk0331 Member Posts: 525 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder what's going through that old man's head as he sits there. The greatest generation indeed.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He was flying other missions. Those who have seen war will always see their war.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • walliewallie Member Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don?t like this plane, had bad experience

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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is pretty good, wallie, though you did not rotate the spinner.

    The Aluminum Overcast was back in town, and I snapped a photo of the plaque on the Studebaker engine. Is was in position 4 this time, and I believe it was in No. 1 two years ago. Either it is a different Studebaker, or more likely has been rotated through a maintenance cycle.

    It is a fairly bad cell phone picture, but you can make out the Studebaker name and logo. An incredible amount of re-tooling when a county gears up for total war.

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    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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