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single shot 22 extractor ----

peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
I know that some of you old timers have seen an extractor like this. It was used in some older 22 single shot rifles. It just extracts the shell enough to be removed by hand. It also forms the lower part of the chamber, as you can see from the pictures. It just lies in a channel in the stock and moves rearward when the bolt is pulled back. Without this extractor, the shell casing blows out (ruptures) and therefore not enough pressure is generated and the bullet lodges about half way down the barrel.
The first picture shows the extractor of a Mosin Nagant, and I have seen pictures of the same type extractor used in other rifles.
The second picture is of an Anschutz Original Karabiner which is missing the extractor (as you can see by comparing the two pictures). The second picture is not at a very good angle, but it is the best that I currently have.

If anyone has any information on another brand of rifle that used this type of extractor, please let me know. It may not be exactly the same, but maybe I could modify it to fit. I have been looking for one for some time now, but I am not giving up 'til I find one. I would sure like to get this Anschutz shooting again.

I can fire 22 long CB's in it and it works O.K., without rupturing the case.

Maybe someone has one in a drawer of old parts that they don't know what it fits.

mosnag.jpg

MVC-206S-1.jpg

Thanks---Peabo
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    What is the model number??
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    It's an Anschutz Original Karabiner. That is the only I.D. on the rifle, and is marked on the barrel. The receiver ring has the Anschutz "JGA" in a cirle.
    It is 'eagle N' proofed so it was made somewhere around 1940, give or take a couple years.

    MVC-202S.jpg

    MVC-203S.jpg

    MVC-208S.jpg

    MVC-205S.jpg

    Thanks---Peabo
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    Here is one that is on the auction side now. It is a 6mm Glatt (which means 'plain'), meaning smooth bore. By S/N I am guessing this one was made in the early '30's.
    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102417282

    The bidding is over $100 and reserve is not met !!!!! It is also not in very good condition. I bid on it but am not about to pay $100 just to get the extractor !!!

    GUNS_10-27-07_236a.jpg


    Thanks---Peabo
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  • minitruck83minitruck83 Member Posts: 5,369
    edited November -1
    peabo. If all attempts at finding a replacement fail. Make it.
    A machine shop could fabricate something up close enough for you to modify and hand fit if you don''t want to start with a block of steel and file.




    Allen
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    I've though of that already. Good machinists around here are hard to find, not to mention pricey !!!! Currently I don't know one that I would leave my rifle with.


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  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    Polish WZ-48 Trainer
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    Polish WZ-48 Trainer


    Thanks fats: I'll look for that one also, just add it to the list of what to look for. You wouldn't happen to have one would you?


    Thanks---Peabo
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  • FatstratFatstrat Member Posts: 9,147
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by peabo
    quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
    Polish WZ-48 Trainer


    Thanks fats: I'll look for that one also, just add it to the list of what to look for. You wouldn't happen to have one would you?


    Thanks---Peabo

    Yes I do. If you're looking for pics, I believe there are some links at the Gunboards.com .22 trainer forum. I know there are some somewhere on the net. It'll be quicker than waiting on me. Guns & guitars are my gig. But I'm not very computer savvy.
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  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000 ✭
    edited November -1
    Check with this guy,

    LEE'S GUN PARTS
    3401 W. Pioneer Dr, STE 2
    Irving TX 75061
    972-790-0773


    I think he's only there 3 days a week now, I think Thursday is the best time to catch him.
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    Just came back from the site you posted.
    You're right about it being like the polish wz 48.
    There are several rifles that use the same extractor, I just can't find one !!! (extractor, that is)


    UPDATE:
    A guy over on gunboards had some made and was wanting $105 for each, delivered !!!!!!!


    Thanks---Peabo
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DAMN I am going into the parts making business.If you can sell that part for over $20.00 That part would not be hard to make . Round stock the diameter of the bolt and a milling machine . If I had the action to make some measurements. Where do you live.?
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    DAMN I am going into the parts making business.If you can sell that part for over $20.00 That part would not be hard to make . Round stock the diameter of the bolt and a milling machine . If I had the action to make some measurements. Where do you live.?



    I am thinking the same thing.
    I would make this extractor.
    I would make a firing pin for a Hartford Arms 22 Pistol.
    I also need a few other small parts that I could make if only I had a milling machine -- and of course the knowledge to operate it !!!

    I am in Central Florida, how about you?



    Thanks===Peabo
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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Simson & Co. use the same kind.
    German made, 22 caliber rifle.
    Sorry, don't have a spare.

    Simson.jpg
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  • peabopeabo Member Posts: 3,098
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by pickenup
    Simson & Co. use the same kind.
    German made, 22 caliber rifle.
    Sorry, don't have a spare.

    That Simson is interesting !
    The extractor is a little different than the others in the way that it fits in a short slot. The others have a long channel at the bottom of the action. At least with the Simson, the extractor will not fall out if the bolt is removed like all the others.

    It looks like 'Karabiner' is also marked on the receiver ring of that Simson.

    Some of these rifles with this extraction system were made as late as the fifties.

    Will continue looking until I find something that will work.

    Danny, I will try Lee's as soon as I get a chance.

    Thanks everyone.



    Thanks---Peabo
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