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Good deal or not? Need your opinions please

callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
edited July 2008 in General Discussion
I'm wanting (badly) a Springfield M1A. I put the word out a local gun & pawn shops that I'm looking for one, preferably used.

Well, I got a call today, and they just got one in "like new" condition. It's just the basic model with walnut stock, but it also had a Springfield factory scope mount (he said a $150 value). Anyway, since it's used, his original asking price was $1250. After I paused and didn't reply, he said $1199. Then when I told him I was also looking at online auctions, he said to come back and make him an offer.

This was all after he handed me long lines of B.S. about how this rifle was over $1700 if it were sold brand new retail.[8)]

Anyway, do you think he's overing a good deal? And if so, his last offer was $1199. What kind of offer should I make?

And just as a reference, here's my other thread:
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=310720

Comments

  • westkybandedwestkybanded Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll bet if you walk in there with $950 in hand you'll walk out with that gun.

    Maybe keep an extra $50 in your back pocket if you REALLY want it.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its worth 1k imo, easily with scope and all. 1100. is not out of line, as always, its up to you. nambu
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In 1983-84 my M1A std NIB was around $800-900 out the door. You have a deal-
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    In 1983-84 my M1A std NIB was around $800-900 out the door. You have a deal-


    Yeah, I wish I could get just about anything nowadays at 1983 prices!! :)[:D][:D][:D]
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    In 1983-84 my M1A std NIB was around $800-900 out the door. You have a deal-


    Yeah, I wish I could get just about anything nowadays at 1983 prices!! :)[:D][:D][:D]


    Especially machine guns. [V]
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by FrancF
    In 1983-84 my M1A std NIB was around $800-900 out the door. You have a deal-


    Yeah, I wish I could get just about anything nowadays at 1983 prices!! :)[:D][:D][:D]


    Especially machine guns. [V]


    I was also looking at a Thompson sub at the same time then came the CA AWB. Not enough Franklin's in the wallet at the time to do both.[V]
  • PlotzkyPlotzky Member Posts: 281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Offer $1100.00...[;)]
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Offer whatever you are comfortable with, just remember you can always go up ... but you can't go down [:(]

    If that is the Springfield aluminimum scope mount, I've never known that was happy with it myself included, they just aren't solid ... last I heard you could get a coupon in the "Loaded Package" to get that mount for $50.
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    Yeah, I wish I could get just about anything nowadays at 1983 prices!! :)[:D][:D][:D]



    You can!

    Your wages.....


    [:D][:p]
    LMAO!!! Good one!
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimberkid

    Offer whatever you are comfortable with, just remember you can always go up ... but you can't go down [:(]

    If that is the Springfield aluminimum scope mount, I've never known that was happy with it myself included, they just aren't solid ... last I heard you could get a coupon in the "Loaded Package" to get that mount for $50.





    Interesting, I didn't know that. I guess I assumed otherwise since it was custom from the manufacturer. Thanks for the heads up.
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Serial # range and does it have USGI parts?

    CP
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cpermd
    Serial # range and does it have USGI parts?

    CP


    Here's the numbers on the box:

    MA9222
    S/N 185987

    I have no idea what those mean. And what are USGI parts, and how would I know if they're on there?
  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gun values are just going to go up. A year from now you'll kick yourself for not buying it at $1199. You can probably amish him down to $1000.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cool. I'm not in the market for a SuperMatch, though. However, if you want to sell it to me for the same price I'm getting locally, I'll be happy to deal with you.[;)]
  • shoff14shoff14 Member Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is this at a pawn shop or gun shop? If its a pawned gun, then I think walking in there with 900-1000 will get you the gun easily. Probably pawned it for less then 500. If its a gun shop, then you will probably have to move closer to his price.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shoff14
    Is this at a pawn shop or gun shop?

    Yes. It's a pawn shop and a gun shop. They buy & sell used, but you can get new there, as well, just like a regular FFL. He "bought" this one from a patron who had previously purchased it, fired it a few times, and then brought it back in exchange for some other firearm. So, technically it wasn't pawned, but it was bought, returned, and back up for sale.

    How does that enter in to your equation now?[?]
  • shoff14shoff14 Member Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    Originally posted by shoff14


    How does that enter in to your equation now?[?]


    Closer to the price he stated. I think you have to be fair to him on this. He probably traded knowing that he would have a buyer if the price was right. I think if you offer him a fair amount, then you both get what you want.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, thanks. Yeah, I'm thinking I'll try the $950 cash thing and go from there.[8D]
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oh, and by the way, when my wife asked, "And just what are you going to use this rifle for?" I lied and said "hunting." I just didn't clarify that it might be illegal immigrants, Brady Bunch, intruders....

    [:D][;)]
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are you going to use it for?

    Illegals, brady band, intruders, terrorists, small vermin[}:)], shootin................. OH YEAH and huntin.[:D]
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm joking, of course. I would NEVER use any of my firearms as an offensive weapon unless hunting deer, hog, or turkey. All my firearms are otherwise for self or family defense.

    You know, like from a tyrannical government. [;)]
  • STORM6490MTSTORM6490MT Member Posts: 84
    edited November -1
    Some people were saying to be fair to the Pawn shop guy. I sure wouldn't be. Pawn/Gun shops low ball on trade ins and purchases. He probably gave the rich dude that didn't like it 800 bucks towards something else in the shop which isn't really 800....

    Anyway, I saw a brand new springfield synthetic stock today for 1200

    The one you are looking at is pre owned, used and may be in great shape but if you bring in 975 cash I think you will walk out with it.

    He already lied to you about the retail price so don't feel bad about Jewing him down.

    Good luck! I hope you get her!
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Offer him 9 bills for it. He will counter with 11K. Tell him 950 and let you know in 24 hours cause it isn't a big deal. He will call.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, I was never very good at haggling. I'll try that.
  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    he is asking a very fair price if in condition stated
  • Irish 8802Irish 8802 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In 1957 my D.I. said that if we lost our M1's it would cost us $100.00....Inflation is an insatiable monster.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by cpermd
    Serial # range and does it have USGI parts?

    CP


    Here's the numbers on the box:

    MA9222
    S/N 185987

    I have no idea what those mean. And what are USGI parts, and how would I know if they're on there?
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I tried to offer him $1,000 (which was all I was allowed to spend anyway), but he wouldn't do it. He said he would lose money on the deal. I have a hard time believing he paid someone more than a grand for it when they traded it in used. But, oh well.

    I guess I'll be scrolling the autions. And my WTB ad still stands for a used one.
    [^]
  • dgacdgac Member Posts: 694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    do it....how long have you been looking? Think of that. Its only money just go home and print some more off.[:D] Just kidding but In 5 years you wont be able to touch one for 1500 never a bad investment

    dgac
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dgac
    do it....how long have you been looking? Think of that. Its only money just go home and print some more off.[:D] Just kidding but In 5 years you wont be able to touch one for 1500 never a bad investment

    dgac


    Yeah, I know. I'll keep looking on line and I have another local contact I'm waiting to hear from who is looking into one for me, as well. No bridges have been burned yet.
    [:)]

    Besides, even if I get one.....HOW WILL I BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE AMMO?!!?[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
  • PlotzkyPlotzky Member Posts: 281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still think $1100.00 would have worked for y'all...[;)]
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree. I just didn't have the authority. They were jiggling in my wife's purse.[B)]
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    I agree. I just didn't have the authority. They were jiggling in my wife's purse.[B)]Sounds like you need to refine your strategy for bartering with your wife! [:D]

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually, we do very well with that sort of thing. But being on a strict budget, it just wasn't going to work with $1100 plus tax.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,080 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It sounds like he is asking a pretty fair price.....if it is a gun you can actually put your hands on is worth something. I agree that the mount is worth every penny he quoted. I have been waiting on a deal on a Springfield mount and they are expensive for a good one. The cheaper ones tend to have fewer screws that mount them to the reciever and are less accurate.

    I sell both on line and have a gun/pawn shop. The on line sales tend to raise more money....and you will be hard pressed to find any deals on the internet without major time and effort invested in your quest. Having your local seller to come to if there is any problem is worth the extra buck or two....plus, if you make a major cash purchase you will get offered deals that you wouldn't have knowledge of if you become a "regular" in your local store. Paying a fair price isn't a bad thing.....if you run into a cheaper gun the small amount you save will not outweigh the plus side of buying a local firearm at a fair price.
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  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good advice, thanks.[8D]

    As much as I hate to ever sell or trade ANY firearm, I think I'll trade in my NAA Mini to make up the difference so I can get this M1A. I was dissatisfied with the Mini anyway, and wanted to upgrade to anothe .38 Special in its place.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,080 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I really didn't like my NAA mini either and I parted with it also. 22s just aren't good carry guns. Since the shells don't have primers they can go "dead" after being shook up and carried. I had mine in my purse for about 6 months and when I tried to shoot it only two of the five shells fired. I know I may have had some bad ammo....since I tend to just grab whatever half empty boxes and loose rounds are here....but I still think 22s are bad to carry.
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  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Again, good advice, thanks. Great for plinking and training youths, but as a carry, yeah, it's not my first choice.
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