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UPDATE: just wanna complain for a moment....

callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
UPDATE: So, I finally have a date set for my video conference with the VA (it's in a month). Any advice for handling the video appeal process?

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So yeah, I'm gonna whine and vent a little.....

Many many years ago when I left the Air Force, I was granted 10% disability from the VA for my neck. Several years later, it felt like it was getting worse, so I went to my doctor, gathered medical evidence, and then presented it to the VA in an attempt to receive a rating of higher than 10% (I actually think it skips ahead to 30%, not just to 20% - but that's irrelevant).

So, the VA sends me to their doctor for an exam, and my claim for increase is denied because I didn't meet the range of motion (lack thereof) requirements. But hold on!! The VA doctor didn't do any range of motion tests on me, so I appeal their decision based on that info. They send me to another VA doctor, who does the right testing this time. As a result, they grant my request for an increased percentage.

All is good, right?

No.

The VA only provided the payment (percentage) increase back to when I saw their doctor the second time (when I appealed). I disagree with this, and so does my representatives at the DAV. As it's always been, the VA is supposed to grant your disability back to the date you claim the condition occurred.

It may seem like splitting hairs, but as long as the VA takes, look at it this way:

*2002 - granted initial benefit of 10%
*2009 - condition worsened, sent in request for % increase
*2010 - claim denied; appeal made
*2011 - finally sent to see another doctor
*2012 - appeal granted to 2011 date, NOT 2009 (when condition worsened); I then appeal the appeal date







*...wait 3 years...*






*2015 - Finally get an answer back from the VA, which is that I can request a video telecon appeal, which won't happen until at least mid-2016....

I can't believe it takes this long to get 2 years' of back-pay from the VA. But then I remember, it's the GOVERNMENT.

At least I have the DAV on my side and we both know I'm right. But damn, it takes SO long!!

Comments

  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Call one of your state's Senators.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    Call one of your state's Senators.


    Which one? Initial claim was in GA, appeal was is Indiana, and now I live in Iowa...
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Iowa's. That's now your state.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    Iowa's. That's now your state.


    Joni Ernst FTMFW!!!
  • tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ..Not VA related but the first lawyer I worked with for my spine told me it was all based on "what percent of a man" you are left with. Missing an arm? You're still 75% of a man. An eye? 80% of a man. Though "not giving medical advice" he suggested I take up swimming. The man was a goof. I fired him and never paid him a dime.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is a disgrace. I hate how the government treats our service personnel when they need medical attention or benefits. This is one of my biggest pet peeves.Oak
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    If the VA approves a disability it should be paid all the way to the moment the injury happened. Anything less is maltreatment, as far as I'm concerned.

    My best and closest friend was a US Navy Corpsman in Vietnam. He was there, not me, we worked together sometime later. Many years and many medical troubles after his two tours, the VA decided he'd been injured by Agent Orange. He was stunned to hear they were granting him a further disability atop his Purple Hearts but back some years as well. I do not know how many years, he told me but I cannot recall. It was a big fat check though.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was rushed before. Allow me to elaborate.

    There is NOTHING that grabs a bureaucrat's attention faster and deeper than a call that starts with "This is Senator X's office on behalf of one of his constituents..."

    Believe me, you will see instant attention paid to your claim.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Missouri Mule K30Missouri Mule K30 Member Posts: 2,092 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    I was rushed before. Allow me to elaborate.

    There is NOTHING that grabs a bureaucrat's attention faster and deeper than a call that starts with "This is Senator X's office on behalf of one of his constituents..."

    Believe me, you will see instant attention paid to your claim.


    It is Amazing when you take this avenue, one it is GOOD for the Senator, votes, they get to feel better for exercising some of their "Power" and possible interaction with other Senators for future Bills to be proposed on this and other issues.
    Believe it a Letter, or Phone Call, and now E-mails really do help. Most every time I do get at least a return communication, an answer to my inquiry.
  • Irish 8802Irish 8802 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey now! I was in the Air Force, and we had all types of disabilities! My friend got his toe ran over by an office chair! IT WAS HORRIBLE! [:p] He almost died! [:o)]

    Seriously though, my friend has 10 or 20% (I don't remember what it is, but he gets about $100+ a month) disability through the Army.......because he screwed up his knee.........PLAYING SOFTBALL AT THE UNIT PICNIC!

    He just laughs, and cashes the check!

    Merc

    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!
  • acdoddacdodd Member Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK let me tell you another VA story.
    In March of 2014 I applied for disability for tinnitus.
    Then in March of this year I applied for hearing loss.
    I was sent to a civilian audiologist on June 17.
    On July 10 I was rated at 60% disability and got a check for $5,000. for back to March 2014 for tinnitus at 10% and 50% for hearing loss from March of this year.
    I will get a check every month for $1158.
    I am absolutely shocked it happened at all much less the time the VA approved everything.

    I did everything through this web site.
    http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/
  • proappproapp Member Posts: 3,264
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!


    Out processing in'95, I was asked if I
    would like to file for 0% disability.

    They told me it would be better to have
    the paperwork already done for later on.
    Seemed like the norm at the time.I didn't
    and still don't.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!


    Lots and lots of paper cuts from deskwork.

    Nah! Who am I kidding?! I was an officer, I had lowly enlisted pukes do my paperwork.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!


    Lots and lots of paper cuts from deskwork.

    Nah! Who am I kidding?! I was an officer, I had lowly enlisted pukes do my paperwork.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Close to half of veterans are now filing for disability benefits.


    That's why the backlog is so long.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Still no resolution, and we're into 2017. Since we recently moved from one state to another (and I did notify the VA), I went to the DAV today to have them ensure the VA knows I moved, and moved my hearing from Des Moines to Denver.

    So at least they'll have the right location, but I still haven't gotten a date for my hearing. It's been years and years and years....
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,038 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like you been complaining for years! Don
  • US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!


    Posted - 07/18/2015 : 10:27:52 AM

    Lots and lots of paper cuts from deskwork.

    Nah! Who am I kidding?! I was an officer, I had lowly enlisted pukes do my paperwork.



    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by Irish 8802
    What could have possibly happened in the USAF to require a disability?? Did the parasol in your drink scratch your eye? Geeze!!




    Posted - 07/18/2015 : 10:28:06 AM

    Lots and lots of paper cuts from deskwork.

    Nah! Who am I kidding?! I was an officer, I had lowly enlisted pukes do my paperwork.



    Is it too late to call those "lowly enlisted pukes" to help you with your computer skills?

    [:D]
  • Aztngundoc22Aztngundoc22 Member Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK :

    What a Mess ! and Good Luck & stick with it ......

    A buddy of mine started out @ 10-20% & it took almost 10 YES 10 years to get to 100% , only good thing : they had to pay him 'backpay' !

    Thanks !!!
    The more people I meet : The more I like my Dog :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


    I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!! :o :?
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Congratulations! You have now found the policy of the VA-

    Delay, Deny, Wait 'til they die.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by US Military Guy

    Is it too late to call those "lowly enlisted pukes" to help you with your computer skills?

    [:D]


    HA! It's never too late to screw up posting on an internet board![:p]
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 11b6r
    Congratulations! You have now found the policy of the VA-

    Delay, Deny, Wait 'til they die.


    Well, hopefully not, I'm only 44...
  • NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Close to half of veterans are now filing for disability benefits.

    That's why the backlog is so long.


    That's what happens after 16 years of war.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,493 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So it's been years and you still haven't called your Senator? The VA isn't the only procrastinator.

    Oh, and BTW, there are some of us in the Air Force who did fairly dangerous things.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    So it's been years and you still haven't called your Senator? The VA isn't the only procrastinator.

    Actually, I did, and they wrote a letter to the VA asking them to politely get off their *. The VA wrote back and told my Senator to take a short hike off a long cliff. [B)]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pays to support and contribute to at least ONE senators election...looks good on a request for help.....
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I pay taxes, and thus their salary, so why contribute to a campaign?
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Close to half of veterans are now filing for disability benefits.

    That's why the backlog is so long.


    That's what happens after 16 years of war.


    The vast majority of veterans haven't seen any combat at all, so spare me the "war" argument, bat.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Close to half of veterans are now filing for disability benefits.

    That's why the backlog is so long.


    That's what happens after 16 years of war.


    The vast majority of veterans haven't seen any combat at all, so spare me the "war" argument, bat.



    But "seeing combat" has nothing to do with earning benefits.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Navybat
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Close to half of veterans are now filing for disability benefits.

    That's why the backlog is so long.


    That's what happens after 16 years of war.


    The vast majority of veterans haven't seen any combat at all, so spare me the "war" argument, bat.



    But "seeing combat" has nothing to do with earning benefits.



    Indeed, it doesn't
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Looks like you been complaining for years! Don
    [:0]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Looks like you been complaining for years! Don
    [:0]


    Indeed, and I have no plans to stop.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe if you wait long enough they can give you an incision like this one, add in titanium rods where they removed the posterior part of your spine and fuse it all together.

    DSCN0749_zpsy55hygii.jpg
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    Maybe if you wait long enough they can give you an incision like this one, add in titanium rods where they removed the posterior part of your spine and fuse it all together.

    Holy carp! That looks awful and painful, I'm so sorry!![V][xx(][:(]
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So no one has any advice for the video conference appeal process?[?]
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