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Feral cats

OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 2017 in General Discussion

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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay, have two here at home in NJ that are now family. I hate cats, but learned to love these two. When Donna and I went up to the mountain house for Christmas, What showed up in my tractor barn??? A feral cat. [:0][:0][:0]I can't get away from them. The closes house/cabin, is over a mile away, and no permanent residents for two miles. Of course I went and bought her food, and made her a cat box. Mr. Cox, a local farmer, said it is not his. He took her and put her in his barn for me,and she was back the next day. He Told me he would take the box and food, and try to lure her over to his place. Looks to be a few years old. I think someone might have dumped her there, but, I saw here in the woods, hunting for food. I set up a trail camera, and she is sleeping in the box and eating the food for three days. Hope she makes it. Can't bring her home to NJ. Not friendly enough to get close to. Oak
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    we are getting run over with feral cats, mean nasty and not scared
    of anything. I had to break out the pellet gun with some raptors.
    my wife was walking in the back yard, two of those cats came out of the woods, and proceeded to stalk her, 2 down 1 to go.
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will be a good for keep rodents away from your cabin

    and just let it stay wild and feral so as to remain a good mouser.[;)]
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While I am a cat lover, feral cats are a scourge. There has never been a domestic cat sized feline in the history of North America and prey have no real clue how to avoid them. Feral cats kill hundreds of thousands of song birds, rodents, lizards, many species of desirable and some undesirable wild life yearly in the U.S. and many times that around the world.

    The no kill shelters are a feel-good non-solution to a real problem.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know how he got close enough to take it to his place. Feral cats here are impossible to get close to. But like above, will get a lot of mice and that's good.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know a woman whose mission in life is saving feral cats. She sets traps, & takes the cats to a local vet. First, the vet tests them for disease (half have a fatal disease & are immediately euthanized). The rest are vaccinated & neutered, & the woman returns them to the wild.

    As He Dog stated, feral cats will upset the balance of nature by their predatory habits. And, they are dangerous to humans because of the broad range of infectious diseases that they carry. The most humane way to deal with them is termination with extreme prejudice.

    Neal
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well if you get the cat neutered and leave her in your barn I bet you will have less a chance of mice and the like eating up wires and seats on your tractor...

    If not a 22lr is an 8cent solution.
  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My g/f keeps taking them in, getting them fixed, and their ears notched. We've got two that eat at our house all the time and at least two more than haven't been caught yet.
    I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
  • likemhotlikemhot Member Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Our game warden told me that the two most predatory animals to small game, turkeys, quail, etc. are feral cats and skunks. I asked what do you recommend, he said "what I don't know, is good for your turkey population"[;)]
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We used to have a huge feral cat problem. Now we have a coyote problem....the feral cats are all gone [:p]
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    HeDog is right. Kill all feral cats! Air Rifle/.22Lr.

    They are a Disease Vector as well, especially to Pregnant Women.
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CHOOT'EM! [:D]


    (I like cats, but not feral ones!)


    Merc
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    I shoot every cat I see wandering thru the field. nothing does more damage to small game than a cat. the .204 makes short work of them. they kill things and leave them laying. I despise the animals.
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    I don't know how he got close enough to take it to his place. Feral cats here are impossible to get close to. But like above, will get a lot of mice and that's good.


    and Yes, keep yourself and others away from a feral cat.
    If you do not need any mouse and rat control give it a bullet.
    AND, but

    I have to use non-feral cats as rodent control to keep pack rats from eating on my equipment in a rural area where I live
    AND I have a feral cat that hangs out at a remote cabin and keeps rats and mice under control. It's almost as wild as a Bobcat. You would not want it in your hands, it would try to eat you.
    I put food out for it when I'm at the cabin and USUALLY have to use a game camera to see if it's still around.

    Rats, squirrels and mice would eat the cabin and it's contents if not for the feral cat.

    Kinda take the choice of Hanta Virus contamination or the feral cat.
    The feral cat is less likely to hurt me.
    Any other feral cats I give them a bullet. (and they should not be allowed to reside in same vicinity as your pets due to the diseases from ticks, fleas, rabies and other they can carry)
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,771 ******
    edited November -1
    Wife and I recently adopted two young cats from our local humane society. One male and one female. The vet bills for having them neutered plus their shots: Female-175 dollars Male-90 dollars.

    I know a couple of ladies that do the trap and fix feral cats and have always wondered if they were eccentric old millionaires or what?

    Now I know![:D]
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't like cats. That being said there's a bigger issue with feeding feral cats.

    It creates a subsidized predator base. The cat hunts and it kills, yet it can't starve because it is being subsidized by a well intentioned soul. Consequently it will also reproduce enlarging the subsidized predator base. Bad for wildlife, bad for balance of an ecosystem. IMO just not a good thing, like cats or not it doesn't matter.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try picking one of those suckers up and putting it in your lap .... bye bye man stuff. [:D]
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • rambo rebelrambo rebel Member Posts: 4,028
    edited November -1
    trap her and .........



    * r fixed!!!!!!!!!

    all problems solved.

    I love cats but if I can't make sure (feral cats) they don't reproduce, I make sure they can't reproduce.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,240 ******
    edited November -1
    one turns into 8,into 64,into,,,,
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have guests with kids,, kid wants to pet the kitty,, kitty scratches the kid,, rabies shot time and if a cute feral kitty isn't an ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE I don't know what is.

    Maybe baby ground hogs.
    ground_hogs_attractive.jpg
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by montanajoe
    one turns into 8,into 64,into,,,,

    Just like possums.
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wife loves cats. We rescued a semi wild or semi feral cat from Pa. Had it declawed and neutered as a kitten.

    Its still crazy if you rub it the wrong way. After 4 years here it lets me pet it once in a while. Always trying to get out !
    "What is truth?'
  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    out here in the country subscribe to the "3S' rule .Shoot ,shovel and shut up
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    I believe there are some western states that treat feral cats like coyotes around here. open season all year around. and encouraged to shoot.
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    if you type in feral cat season on google. you will get several states listed. and they don't have to be feral cats. grandmas cat that gets let out at night is a killing machine. like I said earlier. if I see one walking thru my field. its gonna be a dead cat. I'm at that zero tolerance level on the vermin.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 'yotes keep them pretty much under control here. 10-15 years ago that was not the story. Damn things were everywhere. Have not seen any in 3-4 years
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    Have guests with kids,, kid wants to pet the kitty,, kitty scratches the kid,, rabies shot time and if a cute feral kitty isn't an ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE I don't know what is.

    Maybe baby ground hogs.
    ground_hogs_attractive.jpg



    Except those are hedge hogs not ground hogs.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Our "North place" is some distance from any other farmsteads but cats show up regularly. As long as they stay close to the buildings, I leave them alone for the mouse control aspect.
    Any cat more than 250 yards from "home" is a target AFAIC.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am not going to kill it. I would bother me too much. Our feral cats at home have been neutered and ears notched. They are now friendly and you can pick them up. I will agree with one thing, they are a killing machine. Birds, squirrels and so on. Hopefully, the farmer keeps this one. I am not there enough to catch it and take it to a shelter.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    I used to "scare" the neighborhood cats with a BB gun; hitting the ground very near them, to chase them out of my garden.
    That worked for a short while, until they realized that I wasn't aiming at THEM.
    Last year, the trespassing got outta hand, with 4-6 cats at a time crapping in my food plot, chewing the stems, and procreating at all hours of the night.
    Some cat owners get all indignant when you toss Fifi's collar on to their driveway, after months of warnings about what happens to unwanted animals found in my garden.
    One idiot actually tried to nail me for animal cruelty, called the Pound, dragged a dogcatcher to my door, and wanted me arrested for removing stray animals.
    I just showed the officer wannabee the garbage bags of cat crap I'd pulled from my food plot, and he recommended that I trap & deliver any offenders to the Pound.
    I mentioned that I had just saved city taxpayers a hundred bucks for each miscreant critter eliminated, and he said it was more like 500.

    Got cat(s)? Keep 'em in YOUR YARD.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We used to have lots of them. One in particular used our front flower bed as its litter box. One day, I took my Crosman pump-up pellet pistol and gave it three pumps for a "stinger" lesson. Edged around the corner and caught the little bastid in mid-dump. Place the pellet in its ribs.

    But instead of running off like a bolt of electric fur, it just keeled over. End of that particular problem, except for disposal of the evidence.

    Lesson: three pumps is minimum.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know that cats kill lots of little birds and chipmunks, and that they are not indigenous to our land, hell they are originally from Persia or some damn where.

    But I am an old softie and I kept running in to stray cats at truck stops. So I started feeding them.
    There is a Petro truck stop in western Louisiana on I 10, I spotted a mama cat with two babies there, living under a shed. They were hungry, they were skinny and starving.
    I went inside and bought three cans of cat food and fed the cat family.
    Dad was nowhere to be seen I guess the bum had abandoned the family.

    Came back by there a week later, I had a 5 pound bag of dry cat food, dumped out about a pound for my cat buddies. I would go by there at least twice a week and feed the cats. I also was feeding cats at a couple other places. Of course if I saw a stray dog I would feed him as well.

    Well, after about 5 months of charity work at the La. Petro Truck Stop, I noticed that one of my kittens was now a nice big healthy young adult cat, and she was pregnant! And mom was pregnant too. Plus, Dad cat had showed back up, I guess he wanted in on the Friskies hayride.
    In a few weeks, there were not 3 strays, there were ten!
    I had gotten the strays so healthy and fat that they could have litters. Now, ten mouths to feed. Same thing happened at one of the other terminals where I was feeding cats.

    So, ironically, in my effort to help starving stray cats, I was creating the problem that I was trying to solve.
    I was being a do-gooder, beneficial in the short term, but a disaster in the long term. Not to mention all the birds and chipmunks that these cats were, no doubt, killing.

    So I gave up on the feral cat charity program. At that Petro they put a metal barrier around the bottom of the shed so cats couldn't get in, and they got rid of all the cats in one week, no telling what those Cajuns did to get rid of the cats, but they were gone. I should have checked the restaurant there, Cajun Kitty Etouffe?


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    My family of stray cats at the Petro of Egan Louisiana, summer 2012.
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Around here they will trap them, neuter them and then set them free where they caught them.
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You were doing exactly what the Government does with its hand outs.


    Feral Cats a menace. I have no mercy on them.
    RLTW

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
    I don't like cats. That being said there's a bigger issue with feeding feral cats.

    It creates a subsidized predator base. The cat hunts and it kills, yet it can't starve because it is being subsidized by a well intentioned soul. Consequently it will also reproduce enlarging the subsidized predator base. Bad for wildlife, bad for balance of an ecosystem. IMO just not a good thing, like cats or not it doesn't matter.




    What Allen posted is an example of this. Good intentions exacerbating the problem.
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