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Modern Weapons in 1776 War
Happy Guy
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Have you ever wondered what effect a single soldier in the Revolutionary War could have had if he merely used a modern weapon ? What if a soldier had a modern bolt action Remington 30-06 with a scope ? Could he single handly change the outcome of famous battles ?
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Just think if they were standing lined up and someone pulled out a full auto.
First, he could hit at 300 yards or more. The range of the smoothbore muskets was 100 yards, tops. In the massed ranks of the British, he could have made consistent hits at 5 to 6 hundred yards, easy.
Modern full metal jacket ammo would have gone through 2 or 3 British soldiers.
Once the British got to within 200 yards, the time traveling sniper could have started picking off the British officers.
Yes I believe a single 30-06 could have turned that battle.
Or M1A2 Abrams MBTs in WWI and II.
Or A10s in WWII and Korea.
Or F15s in Vietnam.
there is an author by the name of ahrry turttledove. some of you may have heard of him.
he writes what are called alternative histories i.e. what if the south had won the battle of gettysburg etc.
well one of his books is titled "guns of the South" in which a mysteriouse individual demonstrates an AK-47 style rifle for R.E. Lee who proceeds to arms his troops with the fantastical rifle. it is a pretty good read. i highly recamend any of his work, but that one in particular
an interesting side note on this topic
there is an author by the name of ahrry turttledove. some of you may have heard of him.
he writes what are called alternative histories i.e. what if the south had won the battle of gettysburg etc.
well one of his books is titled "guns of the South" in which a mysteriouse individual demonstrates an AK-47 style rifle for R.E. Lee who proceeds to arms his troops with the fantastical rifle. it is a pretty good read. i highly recamend any of his work, but that one in particular
I'll second the motion on Guns of the South. there is also another Turtledove series called world in the balance that is about war between aliens and man.
Just imagine if it was an M1 Garand...or a whole company worth of them. I've often pondered this.
Or M1A2 Abrams MBTs in WWI and II.
Or A10s in WWII and Korea.
Or F15s in Vietnam.
Same here, or m16's in WWI & II
Well, the other side would have equal weapons so I don't know that the outcome would be any different. This reminds me of an old "Twilight Zone" episode where some tankers went back in time to Little Big Horn. They left their tank and took M-1 carbines to join the battle. Their names ended up on the tombstones of all the soldiers killed.
If you go back in time and bring a weapon with you, how do you figure that the other side would have equal weapons?
The "Twilight Zone" was an interesting show that probed a lot of "what if" scenarios. But, it wasn't the only possible outcome.
Of course, this is all fantasy-speak, so what's the real difference?
....I know, I know, it's a fantasy, but please.
Would the outcome had been different if one side had Zombies? Or B52's? Helicopter gunships? Or BLKHRN?
Oh brother...
Just think if the South had tactical nuclear weapons. Do u think that would have changed the outcome of the war?
Would the outcome had been different if the South had Zombies? Or B52's? Helicopter gunships? Or BLKHRN?
Oh brother...
Or LAWYERS, drunk or sober[:D]
Don
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
Just imagine if it was an M1 Garand...or a whole company worth of them. I've often pondered this.
Or M1A2 Abrams MBTs in WWI and II.
Or A10s in WWII and Korea.
Or F15s in Vietnam.
Same here, or m16's in WWI & II
But zen ve vould all be spraken ze doich(sp). Ve hav vayes of making you talk, old man
What if, just before the crossing he had a case of the runs; we would not have that famous painting to adorn many a family room.
quote:Originally posted by cubslovers
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
Just imagine if it was an M1 Garand...or a whole company worth of them. I've often pondered this.
Or M1A2 Abrams MBTs in WWI and II.
Or A10s in WWII and Korea.
Or F15s in Vietnam.
Same here, or m16's in WWI & II
But zen ve vould all be spraken ze doich(sp). Ve hav vayes of making you talk, old man
No kidding.
Who in their right mind would trade a M1Garand for an M16 for a battle rifle. 03 Springfield is debatable I guess.
What if, just before the crossing he had a case of the runs; we would not have that famous painting to adorn many a family room.
I thought about that one night when i was puking my guts out for 7 hours straight. timing in life is everything
quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
quote:Originally posted by cubslovers
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
Just imagine if it was an M1 Garand...or a whole company worth of them. I've often pondered this.
Or M1A2 Abrams MBTs in WWI and II.
Or A10s in WWII and Korea.
Or F15s in Vietnam.
Same here, or m16's in WWI & II
But zen ve vould all be spraken ze doich(sp). Ve hav vayes of making you talk, old man
No kidding.
Who in their right mind would trade a M1Garand for an M16 for a battle rifle. 03 Springfield is debatable I guess.
The only thing I'd trade an M1 for would be an M14 or possibly an M1A. Really the only thing we could do to change anything in WWII's ground war with modern technology would be to give the troops body armor.
However, B-52s would be an impressive sight in the skies over a WWII world. I wonder how many fewer islands we would've had to take in the Pacific if we had had B-52s and KC-135s.
I haven't seen it, but just added it to my Netflicks queue.
The Repeaters were well respected during the Civil War.