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i have a real question about prayers
KEVD18
Member Posts: 15,037
im not trying to start a religious fight. i just have a legitimate question about the mechanical aspect of prayer. hopefully, i can get an answer without it going to pieces. here goes.
at any given time, there are always a few prayer requests here. im assuming that you all that pray have other people in your lives not connected to gun broker that you're praying for, as well as non person prayers.
my question is this. how do you keep it all straight? do you have like a written list? do you use some sort of a catch all like "lord, please heal all the sick people i know" or something? it seems like some of you folks have a lot to pray for. i go to the market for three things and by the time i get there i cant remember two of them, yet some of you seem to be able to remember the 15 things on your daily prayer list. im legitimately curious as to how you remember all that and whats the process like. is there an individual prayer for every item on the list? do you ever phone it in like "lord, all that stuff i prayed about yesterday i'd like to pray about today, but the ball game is about to start or im boiling an egg"?
at any given time, there are always a few prayer requests here. im assuming that you all that pray have other people in your lives not connected to gun broker that you're praying for, as well as non person prayers.
my question is this. how do you keep it all straight? do you have like a written list? do you use some sort of a catch all like "lord, please heal all the sick people i know" or something? it seems like some of you folks have a lot to pray for. i go to the market for three things and by the time i get there i cant remember two of them, yet some of you seem to be able to remember the 15 things on your daily prayer list. im legitimately curious as to how you remember all that and whats the process like. is there an individual prayer for every item on the list? do you ever phone it in like "lord, all that stuff i prayed about yesterday i'd like to pray about today, but the ball game is about to start or im boiling an egg"?
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Mat 6:9 KJV - After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 KJV - Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
Mat 6:11 KJV - Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 KJV - And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13 KJV - And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
It's lesser known equivalent is given in Luke 11:
Luk 11:2 KJV - And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Luk 11:3 KJV - Give us day by day our daily bread.
Luk 11:4 KJV - And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
Each serves as a general outline and it is my understanding from scripture that one may be as specific or as generic as desired, as God knows the intents of our hearts:
Hbr 4:12 KJV - For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
(ETA: I could give examples of prayers showing both the specific and the general from scripture if you would like.)
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Why not ask the Lord to Help You with Your Quistion?
Well first the Lord will have to figure out what a "Quistion" is. [:)]
God has a perfect memory.
Just takes a few seconds.[:)]
I pray you are able to understand.
I don't limit prayers to any fixed schedule.
Some folks are always included in my prayers........
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I'm not one of these "prayers", but I think if I were, I really wouldn't have a hard time remembering the names of the very small number of close family members or friends whom I knew that were sick that I wanted to pray for.
If I were to ask you that question (ie whom do you know like that that you think you would want to pray for (if you were the praying sort), I doubt you'd have a hard time remembering who they were, and if you did have a hard time remembering their names, you probably wouldn't be praying for them anyway.
quote:i go to the market for three things and by the time i get there i cant remember two of them,
Well, arguably you're the one with the problem here! [;)]
But I think, if say, these three things at at the store were critical medicines necessary to save the lives of close family members who were dying, your memory would improve and you'd probably be able to remember.
Also, its not like prayer requires a trip to the store. You don't have to put on your shoes or warm up the car in the garage to do it, you know, so if you forget and remember later, it shouldn't be too hard a "problem" to fix.
That being said, I always offer an immediate prayer when I see or hear a request. I get lots of emails for prayer requests and I also have more an more of my own as I get older.
Sometimes, the list is huge!
But, with that said... There's no distinct time a prayer should be done.
And I often say a quick prayer when the need arises during the day.
I often also use the 'Lord's prayer' as mentioned by Mr. Perfect...
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
1 Thessalonians 5:17
I hope your question was not mocking or frivilous because God has an eternal memory and He will not be mocked.
Your beliefs may differ and I respect that, too.
Clouder..
that allows me to move on past their hurt an pain, taking my share from them.
hopefully liftin some of their burden.
would you like one kev, sorry you got it anyway. peace be with you.
'He tires of long and laborious prayer.'
"Therefore, after this manner, pray..."
But first, the relationship must exist.
BTW, God resents sightseers.
HE ALREADY KNOWS ALL THINGS!!
quote:Originally posted by Bubba Jr.
quote:Originally posted by Joes Custom Guns
Why not ask the Lord to Help You with Your Quistion?
Well first the Lord will have to figure out what a "Quistion" is. [:)]
Meanwhile the Lords prayer is the best place to start.
Which one is the "true" edition/interpretation? I've known some who say the KJ version, but others who recommend a more modern English translation.
Woody
The last time I was at the B Dalton bookstore in the mall I stopped to look at bibles. There must have been a dozen or more different versions.
Which one is the "true" edition/interpretation? I've known some who say the KJ version, but others who recommend a more modern English translation.
First of all, there's no such thing as a perfect translation. It just can't happen. One word in one language can mean three or four different words in another, for example.
That said, the King James has several advantages over other translations. For one, it translates the correct source manuscripts. Any translation that does not do this is not worth consideration. Secondly, the translation has been studied for many years and its weaknesses in translation are well known and extensively documented. This is not true for any modern translation (most all of which do not meet criteria 1). Third, some of the more archaic usages are actually more accurate translations of the original. Consider just the pronouns "thee" and "thou" both or which the singular form of the word "you", which is ambiguous (note that when "you" is used in the KJV it indicates plural). Lastly, the prose and poetry is beautifully written and wonderful to hear read aloud, as scripture should be.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
GB prayer requests are said at the time of response.
I don't limit prayers to any fixed schedule.
Some folks are always included in my prayers........
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UNLIKE YOU: THE LORD DOES NOT NEED TO FIGUE OUT ANYTHING.
HE ALREADY KNOWS ALL THINGS!!
quote:Originally posted by Bubba Jr.
quote:Originally posted by Joes Custom Guns
Why not ask the Lord to Help You with Your Quistion?
Well first the Lord will have to figure out what a "Quistion" is. [:)]
As long as he can figue it out, it's OK. [:)]
GB prayer requests are said at the time of response.
I don't limit prayers to any fixed schedule.
Some folks are always included in my prayers........
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Ditto
I can only answer for myself. Prayer is a conversation with GOD. I have tried to develop a personal relationship that is the most important I have with anyone. I RELATE TO GOD very much the same as humans or other of God's creatures. Prayer is that dialog. God relates to me in everything I have experienced. We try to keep everything simple, seems to work best.
You put it better that I ever could have.
Matthew 18:19 (KJV)
19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth
as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them
of my Father which is in heaven.
As for healing the sick. It's a crap shoot. Some luck or money (meds, too) to get well.
I rarely attend church, a fact of which I am neither proud, or ashamed. I have my beliefs, they work for me. What others do, well, that's up to them.
Sure is nice to see this go civil. Been a long time!
You have only one 24/7 companion and you can reach him at anytime. Many great answers here imho. I pray for all kinds of things and even "on the fly" while on the PC. It is a constant relationship.
Sure is nice to see this go civil. Been a long time!
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quote:Originally posted by gesshots
GB prayer requests are said at the time of response.
I don't limit prayers to any fixed schedule.
Some folks are always included in my prayers........
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I believe God knows what's in your heart, so a heartfelt prayer for the welfare of those you've been thinking of will do just fine.
I hope your question was not mocking or frivilous because God has an eternal memory and He will not be mocked.
Your beliefs may differ and I respect that, too.
Clouder..
my question wasnt mocking or in jest. it was legitimate. whether it was frivolous or not is a matter of interpretation. my own beliefs are fairly well documented on this board. i dont pray. i dont believe in god. i dont own a bible. while technically speaking i am a confirmed catholic, i havent been to church since that day and long ago renounced my faith.
i wasnt making light of prayer in any way. if thats what makes you feel good, then go for it. i dont care for it when people try to jam their beliefs down my throat, but im all for you believing in what you like. if you respect my right to not believe, i'll respect your right to believe. you'd be surprised how hard it is for some to make this simple deal.
my question was simply about the mechanics of prayer when you've got a dozen people to pray for. i was trying to picture someone on their knees at the end of their bed with a palm sized crib sheet of all the people they are praying for and i couldnt decide whether that was possible, likely, or ludicrous so i though i'd ask. im not making fun, just curious.
It is a matter of faith.
quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
I believe God knows what's in your heart, so a heartfelt prayer for the welfare of those you've been thinking of will do just fine.
I hope your question was not mocking or frivilous because God has an eternal memory and He will not be mocked.
Your beliefs may differ and I respect that, too.
Clouder..
my question wasnt mocking or in jest. it was legitimate. whether it was frivolous or not is a matter of interpretation. my own beliefs are fairly well documented on this board. i dont pray. i dont believe in god. i dont own a bible. while technically speaking i am a confirmed catholic, i havent been to church since that day and long ago renounced my faith.
i wasnt making light of prayer in any way. if thats what makes you feel good, then go for it. i dont care for it when people try to jam their beliefs down my throat, but im all for you believing in what you like. if you respect my right to not believe, i'll respect your right to believe. you'd be surprised how hard it is for some to make this simple deal.
my question was simply about the mechanics of prayer when you've got a dozen people to pray for. i was trying to picture someone on their knees at the end of their bed with a palm sized crib sheet of all the people they are praying for and i couldnt decide whether that was possible, likely, or ludicrous so i though i'd ask. im not making fun, just curious.
Yes, I have done that, but I used a larger sized notebook. It is quite interesting to look back at that book and see how the prayers were answered.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain