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Anti-gun or merely an imbecile?
kannoneer
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Finally found some .22 LR ammo at the local Wallyworld yesterday. (CCI MiniMag hollow points for $7.47 plus tax which equaled 8 cents per round). Anyway, the 20-something clerk wanted to see some ID, so I gave him my CC permit, which has my photo on it. He gave it right back and said I had to give him something with my birthdate on it. Why?, I ask. He said he had to verify I wasn't a minor.
I began to get a little irritated. I am old enough to be his grandps although I would disown him if I was. I looked at my carry permit again and noticed that it DID have my birthdate on it, but he told me next that he would only accept a drivers license. So I bit my tongue and gave it to him and we were able to complete the transaction.
Ammo online is dropping so I have several bids on MiniMags for 6 to 7 cents per round delivered and hope to give GB sellers my business instead of WMart. I am through buying ammo there.
I began to get a little irritated. I am old enough to be his grandps although I would disown him if I was. I looked at my carry permit again and noticed that it DID have my birthdate on it, but he told me next that he would only accept a drivers license. So I bit my tongue and gave it to him and we were able to complete the transaction.
Ammo online is dropping so I have several bids on MiniMags for 6 to 7 cents per round delivered and hope to give GB sellers my business instead of WMart. I am through buying ammo there.
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Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
i get carded for alcohol, glue, duct tape etc. and i am over 50, here a ccw, or foid is not acceptable as identification
if you want to make a point, when they hand back your i.d. say "now how old am I ?", the look you get is classic its that yup im a * you busted me but i am going to smile and play it off look, because they didnt really look at all
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Never thought about it before but I'm guessing
1 name
2 address
3 D.O.B
4 picture
5 signature
Miss any?
quote:what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification
I am guessing here:
1. Passport
2. Voters registration card
3. State Issued Drivers Lic.
4. Social Security Card
5. Military ID
As far as the kid asking for ID on ammo, I think they have to. Its been so long since I bought ammo in a store I would not know. I either reload my ammo or buy in bulk online.
When he refused a government issued ID with the required information on it. I would have asked for a supervisor.
You guys that piss and moan about your kids being Liberal failed to train them properly or answer their questions truthfully, so they went somewhere else for the answers.
Let the supervisor explain to the employee the err of his ways and it will make an impression a stranger can't.
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Never thought about it before but I'm guessing
1 name
2 address
3 D.O.B
4 picture
5 signature
Miss any?
You got 2 out of 5.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
quote:Originally posted by skicat
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Never thought about it before but I'm guessing
1 name
2 address
3 D.O.B
4 picture
5 signature
Miss any?
You got 2 out of 5.
Issuing authority
Name
DOB
photo
signature
That's what's on my passport.
What Mike said. He was just doing his job.
You would have been an awesome defense attorney at Nuremberg.
[:D][:D]
Kidding!
Agree. He's just executing his training.
When I purchase .22 Ammo in Walmart they always ask me if it is for a pistol or rifle. When I ask why they need to know, they reply "I don't know but we are required to ask." I always say Rifle no matter what I am using it in. Anyone know real reason why they want to know what type firearm ammo will be used in?
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Here in MO. You must be 21 to buy pistol ammo, 18 for long guns.that is why they ask the question.
I don't want to hijack but I am curious?
quote:what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification
I am guessing here:
1. Passport
2. Voters registration card
3. State Issued Drivers Lic.
4. Social Security Card
5. Military ID
As far as the kid asking for ID on ammo, I think they have to. Its been so long since I bought ammo in a store I would not know. I either reload my ammo or buy in bulk online.
I always thought a passport was acceptable ID too until I was at a dive bar in Sacramento years ago and they wouldn't accept my friends passport as acceptable identification. He had lost his wallet with his drivers license and figured the passport ought to be good enough.
That reg didn't last long.
Kind of defeats the purpose of concealing a firearm.
I always thought a passport was acceptable ID too until I was at a dive bar in Sacramento years ago and they wouldn't accept my friends passport as acceptable identification. He had lost his wallet with his drivers license and figured the passport ought to be good enough.
Passports are perfectly acceptable forms of identification. It goes to the intelligence and worldliness of the person taking it.
Some clerks balk at taking fifty cent pieces and two dollar bills too.
Hint: Most Californians don't leave the state.
And I have to question the intelligence of expecting genius at Walmart.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
When I purchase .22 Ammo in Walmart they always ask me if it is for a pistol or rifle. When I ask why they need to know, they reply "I don't know but we are required to ask." I always say Rifle no matter what I am using it in. Anyone know real reason why they want to know what type firearm ammo will be used in?
I tell them it's for neither one. I tell'em I remove the gun powder from the cartridges and mix it with my eggs for breakfast.
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Never thought about it before but I'm guessing
1 name
2 address
3 D.O.B
4 picture
5 signature
Miss any?
You missed issue date and expiration date of said permit........at least here in PA.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/22-long-rifle-ammo-c-202.aspx#
Send a copy of your DL in to them once and be done with it. 5 cents per round DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR is not uncommon.
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
So, in general, you choose to act like a prick.
I guess your 20 years of experience counted for something.
Brad Steele
I don't want to hijack but I am curious?
quote:what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification
I am guessing here:
1. Passport
2. Voters registration card
3. State Issued Drivers Lic.
4. Social Security Card
5. Military ID
As far as the kid asking for ID on ammo, I think they have to. Its been so long since I bought ammo in a store I would not know. I either reload my ammo or buy in bulk online.
I've had military ID rejected as identification for buying a firearm because it doesn't have an address on it.
When I buy cigarettes I'm not asked for ID, but my age shows on the cash register receipt as about fifty years younger than I am. [:D]
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
quote:Originally posted by skicat
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
Never thought about it before but I'm guessing
1 name
2 address
3 D.O.B
4 picture
5 signature
Miss any?
You got 2 out of 5.
Issuing authority
Name
DOB
photo
signature
That's what's on my passport.
You got it! Signature of issuing authority will do instead of your signature.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
I've had military ID rejected as identification for buying a firearm because it doesn't have an address on it.
When I buy cigarettes I'm not asked for ID, but my age shows on the cash register receipt as about fifty years younger than I am. [:D]
I kept my Alabama DL for a long time. If I wanted to buy a gun in Tidewater or California, my military ID and a copy of my orders would suffice. They would also accept utility bills proving my domicile.
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
So, in general, you choose to act like a prick.
I guess your 20 years of experience counted for something.
LOL, that was my reaction...so you slowed the line down for everyone else instead of just giving him your O.L. Too funny
In regards to the OP. The clerk may have only been trained to look at Operator's license and or DMV issued IDs. He may not have even known what a CHL looks like, so it may have made him nervous not knowing if it was real. In a perfect world should he, sure but he's a kid working at Walmart. I'd have just gave him my OL.
I should get a fake ID which shows that I am 11 years old. I wonder if the clerks would believe it. And just show it when I was trying to buy ammo that I didn't want. It would be a laugh riot!
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
So, in general, you choose to act like a prick.
I guess your 20 years of experience counted for something.
It is a teachable moment, something you are incapable of understanding.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
When that happens I launch into my dissertation on what is acceptable identification. I then ask if the victim knows what 5 things are required for an acceptable government identification (of course they have no clue).
Then I launch into what my 20 years of law enforcement supersedes their 5 minutes of clerk training, and then suggest that we all get along with our lives and get the transaction done.
So far no one has gone for round 2.
So, in general, you choose to act like a prick.
I guess your 20 years of experience counted for something.
It is a teachable moment, something you are incapable of understanding.
Q.E.D.
Launching into a dissertation suggest bragdocitry and pompassity which puts the line to any pathetic claim towards educating.
The kids are just doing their job. Such a self-important response is designed to belittle, not teach.
Some folks just need to get over themselves.
Brad Steele
Good luck with that!
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Still incapable of understanding I see, and still trying to overcome those mental issues. Try to stay on those meds.
Good luck with that!
Everyone needs a life and he is desperately seeking to find one.
He's lost his wonder at the world and in doing so has minimized his own.
He should be pitied like a 1936 12 cylinder Duesenberg up on blocks.
Still incapable of understanding I see, and still trying to overcome those mental issues. Try to stay on those meds.
Good luck with that!
Resorting to childish insults suggests my comment has hit home.
Good.
Perhaps an actual teachable moment has transpired.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
Still incapable of understanding I see, and still trying to overcome those mental issues. Try to stay on those meds.
Good luck with that!
Everyone needs a life and he is desperately seeking to find one.
He's lost his wonder at the world and in doing so has minimized his own.
He should be pitied like a 1936 12 cylinder Duesenberg up on blocks.
An entry by the P3nut Gallery.
How refreshing.
Rest assured, P3, statements such as Alpine's and many of yours leaving me wondering about many things.
Brad Steele