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  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Obama To Military: Pay Up

    On Friday, Barack Obama threatened to veto a defense appropriations bill partly because it did not include higher health care fees for members of the military. That's right. Obama was out to veto a bill because they didn't raise fees for health care on military personnel. This is just another example of his total lack of appreciation of the military and disgust with America in general.

    In an official policy statement the White House wrote,




    "The Administration is disappointed that the Congress did not incorporate the requested TRICARE fee initiatives into either the appropriation or authorization legislation."

    In the most recent budget proposal by the Obama administration (no budget has been in effect the entire time Obama has been in office), billions of dollars worth of higher fees for members of TRICARE were proposed. It's one of the administration's means of cutting $500 billion from the Pentagon's budget.

    Obama makes this move against what the House has already approved in May, which is HR 5856. It outlines a clear and precise military budget. But Obama's senior advisers say that he will veto it. The House bill has bi-partisan support.

    It appears that our own military cannot depend on the psuedo commander-in-chief to look out for them while they continue to look out for America.

    Should the bill make it to his desk and he veto it, it will be another in a long line of issues that Barack Obama has set up that Republicans can easily slam him for in this election season, but more than that, it will mean that it only becomes more and more difficult for struggling military servicemen and their families.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,561 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    obama welcomes all illegals and gives them free healtcare [xx(] Why is all of congress and the so called President not on the obamacare like everyone else.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    What? You really dont expect them to live by the same rules as us Peasants do you????
  • Blade SlingerBlade Slinger Member Posts: 5,891
    edited November -1
    SOME WAY! SOME HOW! the vermin has to go, one way or the other:>(
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    Want to cut something and this nis right in HR 5856.


    quote:Overseas Humanitarian, Disaster, and Civic Aid

    For expenses relating to the Overseas Humanitarian, Disaster, and Civic Aid programs of the Department of Defense (consisting of the programs provided under sections 401, 402, 404, 407, 2557, and 2561 of title 10, United States Code), $108,759,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014.


    Cooperative Threat Reduction Account

    For assistance to the republics of the former Soviet Union and, with appropriate authorization by the Department of Defense and Department of State, to countries outside of the former Soviet Union, including assistance provided by contract or by grants, for facilitating the elimination and the safe and secure transportation and storage of nuclear, chemical and other weapons; for establishing programs to prevent the proliferation of weapons, weapons components, and weapon-related technology and expertise; for programs relating to the training and support of defense and military personnel for demilitarization and protection of weapons, weapons components and weapons technology and expertise, and for defense and military contacts, $519,111,000, to remain available until September 30, 2015.


    And

    quote:Sec. 8076. In addition to the amounts appropriated or otherwise made available elsewhere in this Act, $44,000,000 is hereby appropriated to the Department of Defense: Provided, That upon the determination of the Secretary of Defense that it shall serve the national interest, he shall make grants in the amounts specified as follows: $20,000,000 to the United Service Organizations and $24,000,000 to the Red Cross.

    Also I do not understand parts of it where they talk about Indians and indian tribes. Housing must be established(by the Air Force) and Indian Businesses must be used.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    But I do like this part of the Bill.

    quote:Sec. 8017. None of the funds available to the Department of Defense, herein and hereafter, may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    This needs to go.

    quote:Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund


    (including transfer of funds)

    For the `Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund', $375,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014: Provided, That such funds shall be available to the Secretary of Defense for infrastructure projects in Afghanistan, notwithstanding any other provision of law, which shall be undertaken by the Secretary of State, unless the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense jointly decide that a specific project will be undertaken by the Department of Defense: Provided further, That the infrastructure referred to in the preceding proviso is in support of the counterinsurgency strategy, which may require funding for facility and infrastructure projects, including, but not limited to, water, power, and transportation projects and related maintenance and sustainment costs: Provided further, That the authority to undertake such infrastructure projects is in addition to any other authority to provide assistance to foreign nations: Provided further, That any projects funded under this heading shall be jointly formulated and concurred in by the Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense: Provided further, That funds may be transferred to the Department of State for purposes of undertaking projects, which funds shall be considered to be economic assistance under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 for purposes of making available the administrative authorities contained in that Act: Provided further, That the transfer authority in the preceding proviso is in addition to any other authority available to the Department of Defense to transfer funds: Provided further, That any unexpended funds transferred to the Secretary of State under this authority shall be returned to the Afghanistan Infrastructure Fund if the Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary of Defense, determines that the project cannot be implemented for any reason, or that the project no longer supports the counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan: Provided further, That any funds returned to the Secretary of Defense under the previous proviso shall be available for use under this appropriation and shall be treated in the same manner as funds not transferred to the Secretary of State: Provided further, That contributions of funds for the purposes provided herein to the Secretary of State in accordance with section 635(d) of the Foreign Assistance Act from any person, foreign government, or international organization may be credited to this Fund, to remain available until expended, and used for such purposes: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days prior to making transfers to or from, or obligations from the Fund, notify the appropriate committees of Congress in writing of the details of any such transfer: Provided further, That the `appropriate committees of Congress' are the Committees on Armed Services, Foreign Relations and Appropriations of the Senate and the Committees on Armed Services, Foreign Affairs and Appropriations of the House of Representatives: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Afghanistan Security Forces Fund

    For the `Afghanistan Security Forces Fund', $5,026,500,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014: Provided, That such funds shall be available to the Secretary of Defense, notwithstanding any other provision of law, for the purpose of allowing the Commander, Combined Security Transition Command-Afghanistan, or the Secretary's designee, to provide assistance, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State, to the security forces of Afghanistan, including the provision of equipment, supplies, services, training, facility and infrastructure repair, renovation, and construction, and funding: Provided further, That the authority to provide assistance under this heading is in addition to any other authority to provide assistance to foreign nations: Provided further, That contributions of funds for the purposes provided herein from any person, foreign government, or international organization may be credited to this Fund, to remain available until expended, and used for such purposes: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall notify the congressional defense committees in writing upon the receipt and upon the obligation of any contribution, delineating the sources and amounts of the funds received and the specific use of such contributions: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall, not fewer than 15 days prior to obligating from this appropriation account, notify the congressional defense committees in writing of the details of any such obligation: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall notify the congressional defense committees of any proposed new projects or transfer of funds between budget sub-activity groups in excess of $20,000,000: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    And all of these cause its just the same as what is listed in the above funds.

    quote:Military Personnel, Army

    For an additional amount for `Military Personnel, Army', $9,165,082,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Military Personnel, Navy

    For an additional amount for `Military Personnel, Navy', $870,425,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Military Personnel, Marine Corps

    For an additional amount for `Military Personnel, Marine Corps', $1,623,356,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Military Personnel, Air Force

    For an additional amount for `Military Personnel, Air Force', $1,286,783,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Reserve Personnel, Army

    For an additional amount for `Reserve Personnel, Army', $156,893,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Reserve Personnel, Navy

    For an additional amount for `Reserve Personnel, Navy', $39,335,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps

    For an additional amount for `Reserve Personnel, Marine Corps', $24,722,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Reserve Personnel, Air Force

    For an additional amount for `Reserve Personnel, Air Force', $25,348,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    National Guard Personnel, Army

    For an additional amount for `National Guard Personnel, Army', $583,804,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    National Guard Personnel, Air Force

    For an additional amount for `National Guard Personnel, Air Force', $10,473,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE


    Operation and Maintenance, Army

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Army', $26,682,437,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Navy


    (including transfer of funds)

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Navy', $5,880,395,000, of which up to $254,461,000 may be transferred to the Coast Guard `Operating Expenses' account: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps', $4,566,340,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Air Force', $9,136,236,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Defense-wide

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide', $7,790,579,000: Provided, That of the funds provided under this heading, not to exceed $1,750,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2014, shall be for payments to reimburse key cooperating nations for logistical, military, and other support, including access, provided to United States military operations in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, notwithstanding any other provision of law: Provided further, That such reimbursement payments may be made in such amounts as the Secretary of Defense, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State, and in consultation with the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, may determine, in his discretion, based on documentation determined by the Secretary of Defense to adequately account for the support provided, and such determination is final and conclusive upon the accounting officers of the United States, and 15 days following notification to the appropriate congressional committees: Provided further, That the requirement under this heading to provide notification shall not apply with respect to a reimbursement for access based on an international agreement: Provided further, That these funds may be used for the purpose of providing specialized training and procuring supplies and specialized equipment and providing such supplies and loaning such equipment on a non-reimbursable basis to coalition forces supporting United States military operations in Afghanistan, and 15 days following notification to the appropriate congressional committees: Provided further, That the Secretary of Defense shall provide quarterly reports to the congressional defense committees on the use of funds provided in this paragraph: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Army Reserve', $152,387,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Navy Reserve', $55,924,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Marine Corps Reserve', $25,477,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Air Force Reserve', $120,618,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard', $382,448,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


    Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard

    For an additional amount for `Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard', $34,500,000: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress for Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(ii) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985
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