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UPDATE: Victory at Charlottesville Unite the Right
kimi
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Anyway you cut it, the defenders of the Robert E. Lee statue secured a victory for people who have any common sense at all. I side with them, wholeheartedly, against any SOB that continues to attack my southern heritage, read me, my people, my history, and my way of life. I do not condone the views of the extreme elements of the defenders of Lee's monument at Charlottesville, but they are up front and taking 'my fight' for me to my number one enemy...those who attack southern heritage 24/7. I do not consider myself an extremist, but I will stand by these men against the likes of those people who make up the other side, i.e. establishment politicians, the black caucus, the NAACP, the New Black Panthers, and the likes of the counter protesters at this event. God help our numbers grow so that we might be a force to stop the tide of such hate against us in order to preserve our freedom and history will be my daily prayer.
UPDATE: I was right...Here is an article about the GOOD GUYS AT CHARLOTTESVILLE, written about a week after I started this thread. The League of the South members at Charlottesville were, NO DOUBT, one side of lots of good people at Charlottesville that Trump referred to. These are the good people people that the media has tried in vain to make American citizens think are KKK and neo-Nazis!
League of the South statement on Charlottesville
23 August 2017
The League of the South went to Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, 12 August 2017, for two main reasons: to spread our nearly quarter-century old message of Southern nationalism and independence and to stand with our allies on the right in defense of the memory of one of our heroes: General Robert E. Lee. It was to Lee Park (renamed Emancipation Park by the city?s leftist government) we went to protest the removal of Lee?s statue.
Remainder of the story at:
http://leagueofthesouth.com/league-of-the-south-statement-on-charlottesville/
UPDATE: I was right...Here is an article about the GOOD GUYS AT CHARLOTTESVILLE, written about a week after I started this thread. The League of the South members at Charlottesville were, NO DOUBT, one side of lots of good people at Charlottesville that Trump referred to. These are the good people people that the media has tried in vain to make American citizens think are KKK and neo-Nazis!
League of the South statement on Charlottesville
23 August 2017
The League of the South went to Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, 12 August 2017, for two main reasons: to spread our nearly quarter-century old message of Southern nationalism and independence and to stand with our allies on the right in defense of the memory of one of our heroes: General Robert E. Lee. It was to Lee Park (renamed Emancipation Park by the city?s leftist government) we went to protest the removal of Lee?s statue.
Remainder of the story at:
http://leagueofthesouth.com/league-of-the-south-statement-on-charlottesville/
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Go look at the % of Government employees by race compared to the % of the population.
We have already paid in reparations ten times what anyone would have asked for.
We paid it in welfare, affirmative action, and other programs with the stated purpose to make things more fair.
The FACT is all these things have done is serve to prevent the black community from excelling on their own.
The Mexicans don't have the same programs and seem to have done very well for themselves establishing businesses.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
What you seem to fail to understand is that we have well over 1000 monuments left, and if we are lucky enough to continue to enjoy the success that we had a Charlottesville...we will be in the news far more than our enemies will be able to survive, because their bread and butter is establishment politicians, plus banking on the public to not recognize fact from fiction. Truth and time is on our side[:p][:p][:p][^]
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The right is a meaningless phrase, as it means whatever any individual wants it to mean today.
This incident has fractured what most think of when they refer to 'the right'. This is evidenced by the near universal condemnation of violence by the 'white supremacists' which will for the near and probably distance future be inexorably tied to the movement to preserve the history of the last great war for independence on this Continent.
There were nazi symbols and white supremacist slogans present in the protest of the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue. This has made it politically near-impossible to condemn the true fascist aggressors at Charlottesville. Those that are serious about preserving the public monuments of the Confederacy will need to purge these groups from their midst, or these monuments will continue to fall, justified by the media and the left because they are rallying points for the evil that is the neo-nazi and modern klan movements.
No, this has not unified the support for Southern History Preservation, it has damaged it. Sadly, the fascist aggressors have one this round thus far, and have unified the left and the revisionists who seek a taliban/isis like purge of that which does not fit into their sensitive little minds.
Brad Steele
The side defending it has been portrayed everywhere as white supremacists.
The guy who drove into the crowd *may* just be someone who panicked when his car was attacked.....but he's been portrayed since the beginning as a Nazi Terrorist.
When Trump issued his appeal for calm and insisted both sides were responsible for violence, he was roundly condemned, even by some who where supposedly on his side.....and in a rare moment, he reversed himself and was forced issue another statement where only one form of extremism was condemned.
This is a bad, bad defeat. Time is not on our side, and the truth doesn't matter any more because the other side controls both the new and the old media.
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The right is a meaningless phrase, as it means whatever any individual wants it to mean today.
This incident has fractured what most think of when they refer to 'the right'. This is evidenced by the near universal condemnation of violence by the 'white supremacists' which will for the near and probably distance future be inexorably tied to the movement to preserve the history of the last great war for independence on this Continent.
There were nazi symbols and white supremacist slogans present in the protest of the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue. This has made it politically near-impossible to condemn the true fascist aggressors at Charlottesville. Those that are serious about preserving the public monuments of the Confederacy will need to purge these groups from their midst, or these monuments will continue to fall, justified by the media and the left because they are rallying points for the evil that is the neo-nazi and modern klan movements.
No, this has not unified the support for Southern History Preservation, it has damaged it. Sadly, the fascist aggressors have one this round thus far, and have unified the left and the revisionists who seek a taliban/isis like purge of that which does not fit into their sensitive little minds.
x ring
Kimi, with all due respect, I don't see how the events of Charlottesville can be considered a victory by "pro statue" side.
The side defending it has been portrayed everywhere as white supremacists.
The guy who drove into the crowd *may* just be someone who panicked when his car was attacked.....but he's been portrayed since the beginning as a Nazi Terrorist.
When Trump issued his appeal for calm and insisted both sides were responsible for violence, he was roundly condemned, even by some who where supposedly on his side.....and in a rare moment, he reversed himself and was forced issue another statement where only one form of extremism was condemned.
This is a bad, bad defeat. Time is not on our side, and the truth doesn't matter any more because the other side controls both the new and the old media.
Yeah I'm not seeing how this was any kind of success except for BLM and ANTIFA.
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
Because we are Americans, even the Confederates were Americans, it is part of our nations history.
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
Because we are Americans, even the Confederates were Americans, it is part of our nations history.
Southerners never assimilated. Resistance if futile.
Kimi, with all due respect, I don't see how the events of Charlottesville can be considered a victory by "pro statue" side.
The side defending it has been portrayed everywhere as white supremacists.
The guy who drove into the crowd *may* just be someone who panicked when his car was attacked.....but he's been portrayed since the beginning as a Nazi Terrorist.
When Trump issued his appeal for calm and insisted both sides were responsible for violence, he was roundly condemned, even by some who where supposedly on his side.....and in a rare moment, he reversed himself and was forced issue another statement where only one form of extremism was condemned.
This is a bad, bad defeat. Time is not on our side, and the truth doesn't matter any more because the other side controls both the new and the old media.
It's hard to see unless one stays pretty much active and abreast of the subject like I do, Rack, but I really do hear you loud and clear. Still, I could be wrong, but I feel rather confident for the time being that progress is being made. I think we will see more of the Unite the Right call in the future, because it is a great theme. We'll see what the future holds. [;)][:D]
Here's another tidbit that indicates the alt-Left is already fracturing. Here in Seattle yesterday, we had the alt-Left on the march again, two factions, actually. Some of them protested against a group that was at a Patriot Prayer Rally. These Patriot Prayer people are concerned with following Christian values and uniting under one flag, (the same desires as the majority, or a very big portion, of the Unite the Right People desire to pursue). These two Seattle groups pretty much got along famously with one another 'considering' the fact that neither group would tolerate our Unite the Right people who were at Charlottesville - think anti-southern heritage, BLM, happy rights, and other racial and/or discriminatory ties that bind. And, wouldn't you just know it, two blacks representing opposing groups got the front page news and stood side by side on the same stage and spoke to their followers. This is a huge fracture in the alt-Left anyway you look at it. In the final analysis, wherever intelligent people gather, truth and common sense should prevail in time over the lies and deception of the alt-Left.
See story here:
Trump supporters confronted by counter-protesters during Seattle rally; 3 arrested
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/downtown-protests/
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
What you seem to fail to understand is that we have well over 1000 monuments left, and if we are lucky enough to continue to enjoy the success that we had a Charlottesville...we will be in the news far more than our enemies will be able to survive, because their bread and butter is establishment politicians, plus banking on the public to not recognize fact from fiction. Truth and time is on our side[:p][:p][:p][^]
The way I see it, armed Americans let the pukes run the show. Big FAIL. Now they are even more emboldened, because you are relying on "mommy and daddy" to fight your fight.
Just my observation.
Good luck, wish you well. Don't let the statue hit you on the head like in the Simpsons.
Oh, that brings up a new thought. NFL negro worship. Get used to being subjugated. You won't even smack down traitors like kasperdick. I may have pissed off most the veterans here on that subject.
Maybe not you personally, but you get the idea.
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
HONOR YOUR OATH.
Kimi, with all due respect, I don't see how the events of Charlottesville can be considered a victory by "pro statue" side.
The side defending it has been portrayed everywhere as white supremacists.
The guy who drove into the crowd *may* just be someone who panicked when his car was attacked.....but he's been portrayed since the beginning as a Nazi Terrorist.
When Trump issued his appeal for calm and insisted both sides were responsible for violence, he was roundly condemned, even by some who where supposedly on his side.....and in a rare moment, he reversed himself and was forced issue another statement where only one form of extremism was condemned.
This is a bad, bad defeat. Time is not on our side, and the truth doesn't matter any more because the other side controls both the new and the old media.
You sure hit that nail on the head.
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
^^^^^^^^^^ This seems to be correct, however, the facts are worse and also explains why no police presence, police were told to "stand down". Watch the video, mostly it seems right on target.
OH, allows some "faux right wingers" an opportunity show they really are a left winger in disguise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjg3joKXfqc
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
^^^^^^^^^^ This seems to be correct, however, the facts are worse and also explains why no police presence, police were told to "stand down". Watch the video, mostly it seems right on target.
OH, allows some "faux right wingers" an opportunity show they really are a left winger in disguise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjg3joKXfqc
Correct about the right. Should they not come together on this issue, then they are not right at all, and their colors are as yellow as the day is long.
I would feel much better about this "victory" if people carrying rebel flags were not standing side by side with Nazi flags carriers.
Ah,,, if only I could pick my neighbors.
kimi, if there were to be a demonstration in your town, would you carry a flag and participate ?
Would you stand with those who carry Nazi flags, or the white nationalist/supremacist flags ?
I would most definitely be in attendance, in the manner that the militia were at Charlottesville, but without all of the militia gear, wearing my Marine ballcap and pin of the First Flag of the Confederacy, and if I had a chance to talk, I would talk. If someone attempted to bust my head, I might surprise them just a little bit. That said, it would never happen since there is no Confederate memorial to attack...just Vladimir Lenin's. Furthermore, I am in the process of attempting to find out what other parties are going to do about this, and I would be more than happy to travel and participate in this type of event anywhere our memorials are being vandalized, moved, or destroyed. You damn straight. Where would you be Barz?
Be not unequally yoked.
This is some kind of Yoke?
I would feel much better about this "victory" if people carrying rebel flags were not standing side by side with Nazi flags carriers.
This is something that you will have to decide for yourself. You can consider that our enemies are not exactly capitalists nor patriotic Americans, and that includes our establishment politicians.
I would feel much better about this "victory" if people carrying rebel flags were not standing side by side with Nazi flags carriers.
What do you have against them? What laws or harm have they committed? Don't they have the same constitutional rights as everybody else?
If they break the law, they need to be arrested, just like if antifa or libs, or snowflakes, or h0m0s break the law should be arrested.
But instead, laws were created to suppress them. Then, the other faction labels anybody they don't like a nazi so they have carte blanche denying their rights. Then they create laws to give themselves more or special rights further demonizing "non believers".
That is the bigger issue.
The statue is no big, buy it, put it up on YOUR property. Any and all activist, political religious and even commercial advertising must be removed from the public space.
That being said, I don't think the government should own as much property as they do. They are supposed to govern, not be a commercial enterprise.
If you have a small community, and have a private government, such as a religious school with campus, that is a different story all together. If you want a statue of Jebas by all means build a big * statue.
Don't put it on public property. Not that hard to understand. Public property and laws need to be indiscriminate. No special treatment whatsoever. Break the law, go to jail. Equally applied and enforced.
Lets put some dignity and respect back the the Flag of the United States of America. You southern separatists need to grow up. OR win the war. [;)]
1 - The protesters in defense of the Lee monument had a permit to assemble, but the counter protesters?did not have a permit and were clearly in violation of the law.?
2 - Both sides were armed with firearms and other devices that could be?used as weapons.?
3 - Had the violent factions of the counter protesters not violated the law with the intent to engage those who were there legally, no violence would have taken place.
4 - Common sense alone will place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the counter protestors, most especially their violent factions.
5 - No blame at all should be place on those who legally assembled to protest the removal of the Lee monument,?provided one has the belief that people should have the right to defend themselves.
The defenders of the Robert E. Lee statue ensured a victory for all people who support maintaining our nation's Confederate monuments, and a total defeat of the evil forces who demonize American history and/or southern heritage, and this is exactly why the fake news media, and the likes of establishment politicians, including black caucus members, the NAACP, the New Black Panthers, and the likes of all factions of the counter protesters at Charlottesville, are chomping at the bit again this morning since President Donald Trump called a spade a spade.?
Yes, anyway you cut it, the defenders of the Robert E. Lee statue secured a victory for people who have any common sense at all.
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...Some/most looking for trouble??..not all mind you
what do yall think??
IMHO I imagine only a few in either group really believed in what they were doing especially the counter protestors
...Some/most looking for trouble??..not all mind you
what do yall think??
It's my belief that a person has to have very strong feelings one way or another to engage in such an activity. Good question. Thanks.
It all boils down to one thing both sides are guilty of and that is allowing EMOTION to rule over RATIONAL thought! [:(!]
This, from start to finish is PURE BS! [:(!] There is no need to attack the War monuments as they are simply 'objects' so the progressives (left) are wrong in doing so. And the right is wrong in trying to defend them as they are just 'objects'! [V] None of them are worth committing violent acts over PERIOD![:(]
It all boils down to one thing both sides are guilty of and that is allowing EMOTION to rule over RATIONAL thought! [:(!]
Hi Jim, good to see you posting again. Thanks for the comments.
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
This incident has solidified the right wing. As more truth unfolds it proves folks exercising their 1st amendment right with proper permits. Were attacked by left wing radicals.
The shame of it is the purpose of the rally was simply to protect a memorial of US and southern history. What left wing extremists did was show their true ugly colors. Denying others of their right with violence.
The right is unified by this and defeat turned to victory.
The statue is coming down. The south lost the war. Japan had to remove all imperial labels, Germany had to remove it's symbols, why is the south any different?
Rupert Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
Because we are Americans, even the Confederates were Americans, it is part of our nations history.
Because its a hundred and fifty years after the fact. The others were imposed immediately after the war. What changed between 150 years ago and today. The soldiers that fought for the Confederacy received a military pension. So why now???? Its because of a few minority dick heads that * and moan and then every one else caves in. If I was of southern heritage and my relatives fought for the Confederacy even though they lost. Those statues wouldn't come down on my watch.
James Alex Fields is off the radar. No stories about his lawyer. No stories about his bill hearing. No stories about arraignment. Gone. Jut a story that an undisclosed ex teacher says he liked Nazis.
This was a false flag event.