In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.

NASCAR "ALL-STAR" RACE

CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
If NASCAR really wanted to make this race interesting, maybe for one race, they should rip out half the rule book. Basicly, for this one race, let them cheat. Ecourage it. With the exception for any safety device, throw out the restriction and those dang templates.

Shocks?
Spoiler?
Nose?
Limited slip rearends?
Ignition systems?

Put it all on the table!

Give the one new rule. All violations from the normal Charlotte setup must be publicly disclosed to NASCAR and FOX. THe fans deserve to know what was done to assist the winner.

It is not cheating. It's more like innovation!

Comments

  • codenamepaulcodenamepaul Member Posts: 2,931
    edited November -1
    And 8 of 10 drivers dead.
  • jimkanejimkane Member Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    Try right hand turns!
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Taledega in the reverse direction would be awesome. I've always wanted to sit through a race there...never had the money though.

    What drivers are going to be in it? Dale Jarrett hopefully?
  • Red223Red223 Member Posts: 7,946
    edited November -1
    Will never happen.

    Nascar is a corporate owned company and they like things the way they are to turn profits for their stock holders, they wouldn't risk a loss and have unhappy stock holders.

    Turner Sports Interactive, a Time Warner Company owns NASCAR.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I would like to see a new division in NASCAR. I would like to see a true STOCK CAR division and bring a class of what NASCAR used to be. NO body templates, restrictor plates, anything like that. Just take a production car add roll cages, soup the motor up, and go racing.
    This would also get auto makers to build some old mussle car type cars again.
    I just miss what NASCAR used to be.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,516 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I would like to see a new division in NASCAR. I would like to see a true STOCK CAR division and bring a class of what NASCAR used to be. NO body templates, restrictor plates, anything like that. Just take a production car add roll cages, soup the motor up, and go racing.
    This would also get auto makers to build some old mussle car type cars again.
    I just miss what NASCAR used to be.


    And call it the Unlimited Division. Problem is, Most of the drivers today wouldn't drive it.. too scared.
  • reddnekreddnek Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guarentee tony Stewart would drive it
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I would like to see a new division in NASCAR. I would like to see a true STOCK CAR division and bring a class of what NASCAR used to be. NO body templates, restrictor plates, anything like that. Just take a production car add roll cages, soup the motor up, and go racing.
    This would also get auto makers to build some old mussle car type cars again.
    I just miss what NASCAR used to be.


    And call it the Unlimited Division. Problem is, Most of the drivers today wouldn't drive it.. too scared.


    Your right about most drivers not running in a class like that. Most of todays drivers only know what NASCAR has become, not what it was.
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    heck, and they wouldnt know what moonshine looked like either, let-alone run it around at night from buyer to buyer....[;)]
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heck, most of their templates and rules are designed to try to keep all the cars "equal". Parity sucks. For one race I would like to see Nascar not car about shocks, rubbers, noses, spoilers.

    For one race I would like to see limited slip rear ends. Any tranny gear and readend the driver wants. A lot of today's races NASCAR's "benevolet dictator" tells driver what gear to run in the transmission. This has nothing to do with safety. It has more to do with over regulation in an attempt to keep all the cars equal. If I wanted to watch an IROC race, I would. Last I checked, the stands are empty for IROC races and most of the IROC races are shown on tape delay. I don't want to watch a parity race.

    Give us one race were "cheating is encouraged". Noses, deck hieght, shape of the roof would be irrelevant. ZIpadellie (sp), Eury, Knause, and the other crew chiefs would play a more important role in the race. It would be more of a team effort.

    Don't kid yourself. Safety is not that important to NASCAR. Dale Earnhardt died in part because NASCAR cared more about the placement of the spoiler than placement of the seatbelt. That rule book is not there for driver safety. That rule book is largely there for to regulate the competitiveness of the race.

    Last nights heat race, mantadory pit stops, inverting a "random" number of racers for the final laps is not that cool. It is confusing to some, but mostly just plain silly.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Daytona and Talledaga are ussually the most boring races anymore. It is either 200 mph line dancing or a 200 lap game of musical chairs. Either NASCAR's rules makes the cars so even that no one can pass another car so they stay single file for the entire race, or all the cars are driving so close together that it is a constant rotation of the leader. No one ever dominates those races anymore.

    It makes me want to puke when Ihear DW or Derrick Cope say "Track position is so important." While they are not saying that line as much this year as in the past, what they are really saying is "THese cars are so dang identical that no one can pass on the track. The best chance to make a pass is in the pits by having a good pitstop and hope and pray that the other guy has a bad stop." THAT IS NOT RACING!

    "Track position is so important" means don't make the slightest mistakes because it is impossible to pass on the track.

    Boring!

    OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wait one last thing.

    The car of tomorrow is a load of crap. It is not designed for safety, it is designed to give Toyota an easier way to enter the market. Every maker will have the same body, tranny and rear end. THe only difference between a Chevy and a Toyota will be nose and engine. Saying the car for tomorrow is about safety is crap.
  • bundybundy Member Posts: 206 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Has anyone ever suggested to get rid of retricter plate races at Daytona and Talledaga that they change the tracks, such as reduce the banking, tighten the curves ect? Make them more like the other tracks so they have to depend more on handing than areodynamics.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bundy
    Has anyone ever suggested to get rid of retricter plate races at Daytona and Talladega that they change the tracks, such as reduce the banking, tighten the curves ect? Make them more like the other tracks so they have to depend more on handing than areodynamics.


    Why change the tracks? Daytona and Talladega where designed to run at over 200mph. Heck in the 80's Bill Elliot qualified at over 214mph at Talladega. I say let them run. If they can do 250mph let em do it.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why can't they make the car so that is has enough downforce without the aerolift after 200 mph at Daytona and Taledega?

    Personally, I think Charolotte (sp) is the perfect track. Nice banking, nice d-curve. Not too fast but fast enough.

    I think every fan and driver out their would rather ban the restrictor plate.

    Ingenuity is the answer. I believe a solution is out there
Sign In or Register to comment.