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Lawyers? I need advise

rogue_robrogue_rob Member Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
Hey all, Let me make this short and to the point. My ex wife opened an account for a cell phone in my name without my knowledge(while we were still married) a day after I left for Korea(a one year tour)

I knew she had a cell phone but had no idea that it was in my name. Anyways, we became estranged during my tour and she didn't pay the cell phone bill. It's on my credit report as owing them over 2200 dollars!!!

I called the fraud department and they opened a case and cleared me of the debt, THEN they contacted her. She gave them a good sob story and they came back to me saying that since we were married, she had the right to open the phone in my name and they weren't going to go after her.

She faxed them a power of attorney that I signed. All the POA authorized her to do was sign for Base housing and start an allotment(this was for privatization of on base housing, while I was in school before I went to korea) so it has nothing to do with what she did, but they jumped all over that POA at the cell company lol.

Anyways, what options do I have on this? I know I could take her to civil court, but what are the chances of getting retribution?

any input is appreciated, I'm kinda stumped cause it's not on HER credit report. I though Identity theft was identity theft regardless of if you're married or not.

Comments

  • JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From her, squat. You file suit against the cell phone company. You also include a claim of slander of credit. Find yourself a JAG attorney, if you are in service. If not, you need a consumer law attorney in your neck of the woods.
  • fishermanbenfishermanben Member Posts: 15,370
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rogue_rob
    I though Identity theft was identity theft regardless of if you're married or not.


    I'm not a lawyer, but I do know that you are most likely just as responsible as she is for the debt. The only reason I can see you not being responsible is if you were legally separated, or were in the process of becoming divorced when she incurred the debt.

    Ben
  • rogue_robrogue_rob Member Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:From her, squat. You file suit against the cell phone company. You also include a claim of slander of credit. Find yourself a JAG attorney, if you are in service. If not, you need a consumer law attorney in your neck of the woods.

    what sort of suit would I file against the phone company?
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,038 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rogue_rob
    what sort of suit would I file against the phone company?


    Frivilous. Don
  • HokkmikeHokkmike Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't get this kind of advice her. Go see a lawyer.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    prove your departure date, and your date you arrived back on our soil. Then show the date the account was started (you were not in the US). Then, have witnesses that will account the facts that that was basicaly the day you two were seperated, as you two, or you or she (none of my business) decided during this time to pursue other options. Therefore, with no knowledge of the account being started and the fact that you two were later to NOT be together again, then I think your case is a good one. It will look as if she planned it that way, and that makes her look bad.
  • The TinmanThe Tinman Member Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As a married couple, there is an implied consent for both husband and wife to take actions such as sign a contract that binds the marital community (You and your wife). Somewhere in the phone contract will probably be some language that made you both "jointly and severally liable" meaning that should a default occur, the phone company can come after you, your wife or the marital assets.
    The best you can hope for is that the divorce judge will sever you from the contract and place the onus upon your wife, and I would think you have a pretty good chance of doing that.
    The problem is that your credit is now stained, and the judge cannot do anything about that. If you have the funds, you may consider offering the phone company full compensation in return for them removing any negative information from all three credit-reporting agencies, then go after your wife in either divorce or civil court for reimbursement. Nothing you can do to "force" the phone company to remove the negative information, so your best bet is to offer in compromise. I'd bet the phone company would play ball if you offered.
    I'm not sure if a JAG officer can help you, as this is a civil matter, not a military matter. I also don't see where you have a case of Slander of Credit against the phone company, as you said, the account is in default, so there is no slander or libel involved. You should ask the phone company for a copy of the contract, and if indeed it has the term "Jointly and Severally Liable," then you would not have an action against them either.
    Best bet is to contact either your State Bar Association or the local Bar Association and ask for a referral to an attorney who handles this type of problem. Most Bar Associations offer a free or low-cost first consultation wherein you can ask a real attorney, knowledgeable of your State and local laws about your situation and get a professional opinion.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is practically nothing you can do, except declare bankruptcy I've been through this recently to the tune of about $150,000. I would have gladly paid a lawyer $50k to get me out of some of that debt.
  • rogue_robrogue_rob Member Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well it's too late for a bankruptcy, it's already a charge off. I just saw it and got pissed off about it. It's from about 4 years ago.

    I hate it when people can get away with crap like this.
  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    You might consider reviewing the post, "The perfect murder"!
  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    And always remember: Free Legal Advice you get on the Internet is worth every penny. Or a little less.
  • dclocodcloco Member Posts: 2,967
    edited November -1
    Actually, all of the above posters missed something.

    Request the cell phone company to send you a copy of the form that YOU signed for authorization of a cell phone in YOUR name.

    What? You don't have my signature? Bummer...then I don't have a bill either.

    This ONLY works if the phone is in your name only.

    Exception - if the state is Kommiefornia.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rogue_rob
    well it's too late for a bankruptcy, it's already a charge off. I just saw it and got pissed off about it. It's from about 4 years ago.

    I hate it when people can get away with crap like this.


    You can have an explanation attached to your credit report. Include all relevant info, including any evidence that she incurred the entire bill on her own while you were out of the country.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    my ex opened several credit cards in my name after we were legally separated...still nothing I could do. When the divorce came about I insisted they be paid by her prior to the agreement. she got the house but had to refinance it per agreement (to unincumber myself recoup my share of the equity) I made her pay the balences within that refy....also made sure they were paid out of closing settlement.
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    If any kind of legal battle insues, it may in your favor to know where many of those calls were placed to.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcloco
    Actually, all of the above posters missed something.

    Request the cell phone company to send you a copy of the form that YOU signed for authorization of a cell phone in YOUR name.

    What? You don't have my signature? Bummer...then I don't have a bill either.

    This ONLY works if the phone is in your name only.

    Exception - if the state is Kommiefornia.


    Bingo... And I might add.. The Power of Attorney you gave her. Was it specific or open to anything? If it was specific, tell em' to take a hike. Obviously if it is on your credit report the phone co. has tried and FAILED to collect. The phone company considers it final.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by dcloco
    Actually, all of the above posters missed something.

    Request the cell phone company to send you a copy of the form that YOU signed for authorization of a cell phone in YOUR name.

    What? You don't have my signature? Bummer...then I don't have a bill either.

    This ONLY works if the phone is in your name only.

    Exception - if the state is Kommiefornia.


    Bingo... And I might add.. The Power of Attorney you gave her. Was it specific or open to anything? If it was specific, tell em' to take a hike. Obviously if it is on your credit report the phone co. has tried and FAILED to collect. The phone company considers it final.


    My divorce was in Calif. where everything is community propertyincluding debt, but i dont think that matters. if you are married any debts incurred during the marriange, regardless of whether you gave consent, are joint property. The best thing that can happen is that your ex is worried about her credit rating and decides to pay half so both of you are clear.
  • mpolansmpolans Member Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you're military, you should have a Legal Services Office on base. Contact them. They should be able to help you.

    While I cannot legally advise you on what to do, I can tell you there are incorrect statements above.
  • One shotOne shot Member Posts: 1,027
    edited November -1
    I told my Exwife I could have her killed for less then what she took from me. Mother-in-law Damn near had a heart attack.[:D]
  • plains scoutplains scout Member Posts: 4,563
    edited November -1
    State law will vary so you really need to see a lawyer. I would request all documentation that the phone company got when they opened the cell phone account. This will help when you see the lawyer.

    Spend a few hundred now and maybe get that write off erased from your credit history.

    Legal Services is a good idea.

    Best of luck.
  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    I am not a lawyer, but I wish I could get actor's salaries for pretending to be one.

    If my last divorce is any clue, you are going to pay for all the warm and squishy stuff you once had.
  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I haven't read all the above BS since a lot of seems to be just that. just go to the JAG office and get your advice, not here. Tom
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    MP and TC are correct- go talk to a REAL lawyer- you need REAL legal advice- and it WILL vary from state to state. GO! NOW !
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