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Shipping ammo with FEDX
Yoshi
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Can anyone give the rundown on shipping ammo via FedEx, i have called them and get the run around, after a half hour on the phone i still don't know how to use them to ship ammo.
thanks.
thanks.
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NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
I believe thats illegal...
Never had a problem with UPS, although I haven't sent any in a while. It's going to a business, Right ? [:D]
Nope to a residence, i want to ship a sealed spam can of M2 ball.
UPS was helpful on the phone, i got straight answers from them, the problem is i need to ship from a hub and the nearest hub is 45 miles.
I receive ammo from the CMP via FedEx so i thought I'd use them but cant even find a Representative that knows the procedure.
Yes, I got you on the hub, I guess that I'm saying is that the driver don't care if it is not really a business and UPS is not going to look it up. I live 18 miles from the hub myself. [:D]
It is illegal to send ammo by USPS!!!.Period. Don't do it and don't be dumb enough to lie about it.Geeeez..................
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If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
As others have indicated it is illegal.
It is a felony.
By your post you have shown the world that you are: a liar, dumb, and a felon. Good job.
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
As others have indicated it is illegal.
It is a felony.
By your post you have shown the world that you are: a liar, dumb, and a felon. Good job.
BITE ME !
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
Someday the postmaster may make this wish come true.
quote:Originally posted by vicg1
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
As others have indicated it is illegal.
It is a felony.
By your post you have shown the world that you are: a liar, dumb, and a felon. Good job.
BITE ME !
There are reasons they restrict transport of flammables you know... many of these packages go on commercial airliners. Remember the Miami Trans Air flight that ditched into the Everglades because of the improperly shipped oxygen generators? You could be responsible for the next crash if you keep it up.
So explain to me what coould happen?
Ammo is not exposive, not even in a fire.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
Yoshi..Pack the ammo in a box. Label the outside with this: "ORMD..Small Arms Ammunition.," in nice large black letters. Take the box to FedX or UPS and pay to send it.
That's all the law requires. Your FedX dealer might be a butt head and give you trouble, but if he does, he's wrong.
Oh, you aren't sending howitzer rounds now..right??
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Yoshi..Pack the ammo in a box. Label the outside with this: "ORMD..Small Arms Ammunition.," in nice large black letters. Take the box to FedX or UPS and pay to send it.
That's all the law requires. Your FedX dealer might be a butt head and give you trouble, but if he does, he's wrong.
Oh, you aren't sending howitzer rounds now..right??
I just thought it had to have the ORMD sticker. I was not aware that it had to be labeled as small arms ammunition.
We go through this every time someone wants to ship ammunition. Here is the official code:
How to ship ammunition.
Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173 173.63
Packaging exceptions (b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices.
(1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)
(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter.
Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:
(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are use to project fastening devices. (
2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.
Part 172 (Marking) 172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D
(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side that the designation.
(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter
So, basically you need to label the box on the end as ORM-D inside a square box you have drawn, then print #698;Cartridges, Small Arms#698; UPS illustration using #698;Consumer Commodity#698; (change to #698;Cartridges, Small Arms#698;) UPS hazardous/restricted items section @ 1-800-554-9964.
If you do this frequently, you can buy these labels from a label printing company such as stickers.com. If you do this infrequently, you can make your own stickers and print them out on your computer/printer.
http://www.sticker.com/fragile-warning.html
Best.
This isn't my thread but I was looking for that exact info. Thanks!! [:D]
You're welcome.
I can't take credit for anything except the Copy & Paste of a post from a couple of years ago by member EOD GUY. It has been posted several times and reads easily so that we all can understand what we're supposed to do with packages.
Best.
Nope no howitzer rounds just some Korea era M2 ball in spam can similar to the can the Greek stuff is in.
I sold off some "collector" ammo to finance a reloader and as much Greek M2 as possible.
Its a whole lot more fun to shoot ammo than it is to collect it...heh
thanks again for the help.
One caveat: I'm shipping to Alaska....anything special needed there? i hope not!
I did print out that ORM-D sticker and paste it on there.....but not orm-d air...any difference???
Thanks!
Budding GB seller
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
Playing with Fed laws...
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
Playing with Fed laws...
Doh! Tell the feds some guy on the internet said it's ok...
quote:Originally posted by oldgunner
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Yoshi..Pack the ammo in a box. Label the outside with this: "ORMD..Small Arms Ammunition.," in nice large black letters. Take the box to FedX or UPS and pay to send it.
That's all the law requires. Your FedX dealer might be a butt head and give you trouble, but if he does, he's wrong.
Oh, you aren't sending howitzer rounds now..right??
I just thought it had to have the ORMD sticker. I was not aware that it had to be labeled as small arms ammunition.
DO NOT PUT SMALL ARMS ON THE BOX,THE LADY AT THE COUNTER MARKED IT OUT,oops sorry caps on,just the orm-d sticker,this is ups,if you ship fed-x you will need to sign up first on-line,go with brown...
If you want I can send you some real "ORM-D small arms ammunition" stickers free,
send me your address thru one of my auctions. ORM= "other regulated material".....D= type of item {chemical/flammable]....small arms ammunition= "just that" [means to the shipper/handler its some what safe as assembled]. This is why shipping JUST primers has more regs than a equal amount of loaded ammo. DON"T try to save money by using USPO, I sell and ship legally to most buyers for only 10% to 20% more than the illegal way. For about $2.00, I'll stay out of jail. Here is a link to see the right stickers needed... http://cgi.ebay.com/ORM-D-CARTRIDGES-SMALL-ARMS-Sticker-Label-Shipping_W0QQitemZ350225141991QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518b0b90e7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50
quote:Originally posted by vicg1
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
As others have indicated it is illegal.
It is a felony.
By your post you have shown the world that you are: a liar, dumb, and a felon. Good job.
BITE ME !
At least you are consistent.
You could copy and print it out, then "Tape it" in place with clear tape... [:)]
Or just write ot out as posted earlier...
Anyone know how to ship these things to Alaska?
well, it came back. im not sure if it was because i was sending to alaska i needed an ORM-D-AIR which i did NOT use. It got sent back for "Hazardous material discrepancy" I used a plain jane ORM-D sticker like shown in this article. Does UPS charge MORE for that or something??
Anyone know how to ship these things to Alaska?
I'm not so sure there is any UPS or FedEx ground service to Alaska... most often cargo like that gets sent to a freight forwarding company that loads it onto ships... not feasible for a small shipment...
If I'm only shipping a few boxes I send them USPS and when they ask about anything explosive and that other crap I just say no.
Bad idea...they will catch you sooner or later and its not gonna be pretty when they do.
Any Body notice the date of Original post. 11/27/2007
computer glitch
adds: .."to the cont.48 states". How would you like to be flying in a 767 jet at 28,000 feet, knowing there is a box of 1000 .308 shells sitting near the main truss in the cargo hold ???[xx(]
I have found that UPS stores will take ammo if it is NOT owned by an anti-gun fool. I had issues early on shipping ammo, but found UPS store where the clerk says AMMo is ok by us. I been going back ever since.
Method, You, as a private person, can NOT ship ammo by AIR. No matter what sticker you put on it. Note most sellers here always state in their
adds: .."to the cont.48 states". How would you like to be flying in a 767 jet at 28,000 feet, knowing there is a box of 1000 .308 shells sitting near the main truss in the cargo hold ???[xx(]
Ok, so then everything else that's been said is just a "way around" the rules? Like putting an ORM-D sticker on it? (which I did)