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quote:Originally posted by gunnut505
Felons lose their rights to vote as well
No, they don't. As long as they are not currently incarcerated, felons can still vote in both state and federal elections. The only real right they lose in their gun rights.
Happened to a Class 3 dealer buddy of mine. Minding his own business. They kicked in his door, called him a MF and tore his entire place of business apart and after 4 hours left with nothing. Didn't say bye, good day, kiss my *. Damages totaled about $2000 and he had to hire help to putt all the paperwork back in order in the file cabinets. They are mean people. Bottomline, they have no soul. There is a problem when people treat animals like people and people like animals.
Everytime he tried to tell them what they needed was in the file cabinet they would get in his face and tell him to shut the F up or yell some other obsenity to him.
It's pitiful how they treat people just based on the word of another person. That's how the whole waco thing begin.
It will cost him $10K to get his guns back, if he can afford it. I will bet he can't, that was the whole point of the radi. They knew he didn't have the means to defend himself. It was an easy way to get the guns.
Well, don't know what happened on this raid, or why. I do know my next door neighbor was a Federal LEO. We were sitting on the deck discussing some ATF folks that were having a few beers at a local pub, and when the barman cut them off, starting THROWING cartridges of pistol ammo at him.
He observed that throughout his agency (and others) it was generally considered as fact that IF you WANTED to get into a firefight, go on a raid with the ATF- they were the biggest bunch of cowboys that any of them had ever seen.
So far, have not seen anything to prove him wrong.
quote:Originally posted by dreher
Where do I start? Is there more to this we don't know? Has our Government really gotten this out of control? Is this what all gun owners are going to eventually face? Are Federal Agencies really above the law? If so, when did this happen? Do we have any rights left? Is the Government playing all the people of this country as total fools? Truely, this is so over the top, I have no clue what to think.
In order.....
Yes
Absolutely
Most likely
Yes
Been gradual, for many decades
No, we have privileges
Absolutely
Focus on the facts and the obvious answers to your questions, search your heart to find truth in what you clearly see happening around you.
An awakening will likely result. If so, welcome brother.
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Felons lose their rights to vote as well
No, they don't. As long as they are not currently incarcerated, felons can still vote in both state and federal elections. The only real right they lose in their gun rights.
Jim
Everytime he tried to tell them what they needed was in the file cabinet they would get in his face and tell him to shut the F up or yell some other obsenity to him.
It's pitiful how they treat people just based on the word of another person. That's how the whole waco thing begin.
It will cost him $10K to get his guns back, if he can afford it. I will bet he can't, that was the whole point of the radi. They knew he didn't have the means to defend himself. It was an easy way to get the guns.
He observed that throughout his agency (and others) it was generally considered as fact that IF you WANTED to get into a firefight, go on a raid with the ATF- they were the biggest bunch of cowboys that any of them had ever seen.
So far, have not seen anything to prove him wrong.
Where do I start? Is there more to this we don't know? Has our Government really gotten this out of control? Is this what all gun owners are going to eventually face? Are Federal Agencies really above the law? If so, when did this happen? Do we have any rights left? Is the Government playing all the people of this country as total fools? Truely, this is so over the top, I have no clue what to think.
In order.....
Yes
Absolutely
Most likely
Yes
Been gradual, for many decades
No, we have privileges
Absolutely
Focus on the facts and the obvious answers to your questions, search your heart to find truth in what you clearly see happening around you.
An awakening will likely result. If so, welcome brother.