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Memo from DC Chief of Police

RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Action Alert:
Washington DC Already Planning To Restrict Law-Abiding Citizens 2nd Amendment Rights

The following is a memo sent to Washington, DC residents by Cathy Lanier, Washington, DC Chief of Police:

From: Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Supreme Court Update

Residents,

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court today struck down part of the District of Columbia's handgun ban. I wanted to drop you a note to let you know the immediate impact of this decision.

The Supreme Court's ruling is limited and leaves intact various other laws that apply to private residents who would purchase handguns or other firearms for home possession. It is important that everyone know that:

a.. First, all firearms must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department's Firearms Registration Section before they may be lawfully possessed.
a.. Second, automatic and semiautomatic handguns generally remain illegal and may not be registered.
a.. Third, the Supreme Court's ruling is limited to handguns in the home and does not entitle anyone to carry firearms outside his or her own home.

Lastly, although the Court struck the safe storage provision on the ground that it was too broadly written, in my opinion firearms in the home should be kept either unloaded and disassembled or locked.

I will comply with the Court's reading of the Second Amendment in its letter and spirit. At the same time, I will continue to vigorously enforce the District's other gun-related laws. I will also continue to find additional ways to protect the District's residents against the scourge of gun violence.

Residents who want additional information can visit the Metropolitan Police Website at www.mpdc.dc.gov/gunregistration. Residents with questions are encouraged to contact the Firearms Registration Section at 202-727-9490.

Sncerely,

Cathy Lanier
Chief of Police
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.

Comments

  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    Uh,, pardon me Mr.Home invader.Could you please wait a few moments wile i assemble and load my 1911, so i can protect myself from you?
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    It really makes you wonder. Are these people really from the same planet that we are. If it was'nt so serious the mere stupidity of the whole thing could keep you laughing from now on....
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    Uh,, pardon me Mr.Home invader.Could you please wait a few moments wile i assemble and load my 1911, so i can protect myself from you?
    Sure ... you don't mind if I rape and murder your wife and/or daughter while I wait do you?
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    "Unloaded and disassembled or locked"

    Nice to see that we can expect their full cooperation....
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "you know I don't read memos"- Gen Jack O'Neill (SG-1)

    *shoots DC police chief with zat'nikatel stun weapon*

    "I suggest you stop resisting, the second shot from a zat kills"





    Hey, a guy can dream can't he? [:D]
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No semi-autos? Revolvers only?

    Is that for real?
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dear Mr. Police Chief. I live within your city and have my handgun ready for any moron that tries to harm me. BTW.. I will register it with your dept. Should you want to inspect it at my home... GET A WARRANT. If you would happen to visit my home from a home invasion , bring the coroner and a few body bags.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When you click their link, you get this:

    DC01.jpg

    When you click the next link you get this:

    DC02.jpg

    When you click "Full Text" you get this:

    DC03.jpg
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 204targetman
    It really makes you wonder. Are these people really from the same planet that we are. If it was'nt so serious the mere stupidity of the whole thing could keep you laughing from now on....
    they're in washington dc. whaddya think.
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by 204targetman
    It really makes you wonder. Are these people really from the same planet that we are. If it was'nt so serious the mere stupidity of the whole thing could keep you laughing from now on....
    they're in washington dc. whaddya think.

    I suppose that was a stupid question....I do live a sheltered southern life tho....
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well if it IS true that they cannot possess semi-autos then I'd bet those 7 & 8 shot .357 mags will be the order of the day.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    When you click their link, you get this:

    DC01.jpg

    When you click the next link you get this:

    DC02.jpg

    When you click "Full Text" you get this:

    DC03.jpg

    The period at the end of the link is what caused the problem. Try this:

    http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view.asp?a=1237&q=547431&pm=1
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view.asp?a=1237&q=547431&pm=1

    Metropolitan Police Department
    Impact on the Court Ruling in DC v. Heller

    In the coming days the District of Columbia will be implementing new rules and regulations regarding the Supreme Court decision in the District of Columbia v. Heller (handgun) case. The Supreme Court ruled that residents will be allowed to possess handguns in their homes. It is critical that all Metropolitan Police Department members know the immediate impact of this ruling:

    All Firearms including handguns must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department's Firearms Registration Section before they may be legally possessed.
    Automatic and semi-automatic handguns remain ineligible for registration.
    The Supreme Court's ruling is limited to handguns in the home and does not affect the legality of firearms carried outside of the home.
    The Metropolitan Police Department will urge residents that do obtain licenses to carry weapons in the home to also keep that weapon either disassembled or secured with a locking device (not a current legal requirement).
    Resources
    District Government Reacts to Heller Ruling (Press Release, 6/26/08)
    Firearms Registration Requirements*
    Registering a Firearm in the District of Columbia* (Brochure)
    Data: Crimes with Guns* (CY 1998 - YTD through 6/26/08)
    Gun Safety Information
    Frequently Asked Questions about Registering a Firearm

    What happens now?
    Can people go out and get handguns right now? If not, when will they be able to do it?
    What can people do right now?
    Will there be restrictions on who can register a handgun?
    Are there restrictions on what kinds of handguns residents will be able to register and possess?
    What other restrictions will there be on handguns?
    What will you do about residents who already own handguns despite the handgun ban?
    Can people register as many handguns as they like?
    Under existing law can District residents use properly registered firearms in lawful self-defense in their homes?
    How does one go about registering a firearm?




    What Happens Now?

    The Supreme Court will formally issue its mandate within the next month, possibly as early as July 17, 2008. The U.S. Court of Appeals will then send the case to the U.S. District Court to enter an injunction. The injunction is the court order that will officially prevent the District government from enforcing the handgun ban. That process may take a few months. Within 21 days, the Metropolitan Police Department will promulgate regulations to accommodate the process of registering handguns for lawful possession.

    Can people go out and get handguns right now?
    If not, when will they be able to do it?

    No. Residents may not go out and get handguns, though they will soon be able to do so. There is further court action before the Supreme Court's decision is implemented and the handgun ban is officially lifted, though that should happen within the next few months. It should be emphasized that even after the handgun ban is lifted, those who wish to possess handguns will first be required to register them with the Metropolitan Police Department, as they must do with all firearms, in order for the possession to be legal. Furthermore, under the Supreme Court's decision, possession of properly registered handguns will still be legal only in one's own home.


    What can people do right now?

    Although people cannot yet register handguns for legal possession in the home, they will be able to do so soon, and the District government will fully comply with the Supreme Court's decision. Residents should wait for the regulations that the Metropolitan Police Department will prepare within the next 21 days for further instructions. In the meantime, if residents have specific questions, they may contact the Firearms Registration Section of the Metropolitan Police Department at (202) 727-9490 or visit the Department's website at www.mpdc.dc.gov/gunregistration.



    Will there be restrictions on who can register a handgun?

    Yes, under District law that the Supreme Court did not disturb, someone who seeks to register any firearm must meet certain requirements. Among these are that the would-be registrant must be 21 years of age and cannot have been convicted of a felony or other crime of violence or weapons crime, or have been committed to a mental hospital within the past five years. Registrants also must be fingerprinted and pass a test regarding knowledge of District gun laws.



    Are there restrictions on what kinds of handguns residents will be able to register and possess?

    Yes, under District law that the Supreme Court did not disturb, automatic and semi-automatic handguns generally may not be registered. Revolvers in the home will be legal and, as before, residents remain free to register most shotguns and rifles. Those with questions about specific firearms should contact the Firearms Registration Section of the Metropolitan Police Department at (202) 727-9490 or visit the Department's website at www.mpdc.dc.gov/gunregistration.



    What other restrictions will there be on handguns?

    The new rules will allow handgun possession in the home only, and only by those who properly register their handguns with the Metropolitan Police Department. The Supreme Court has not altered the legality of carrying handguns outside the home. Given the potentially tragic consequences of storing a firearm without a trigger lock, residents are strongly urged to utilize such locks which may be obtained free of charge from the Metropolitan Police Department.



    What will you do about residents who already own handguns despite the handgun ban?

    The District government will establish an amnesty program under which they can register their handguns without fear of prosecution for having possessed a handgun in violation of District law. Of course, the program will not protect anyone who committed a separate crime under District or Federal law with that handgun.



    Can people register as many handguns as they like?

    The forthcoming regulations to be issued by the Metropolitan Police Department will answer questions such as how many weapons residents can register, and will likely limit registrants at least initially to one handgun each.



    Under existing law can District residents use properly registered firearms in lawful self-defense in their homes?

    Yes.


    How does one go about registering a firearm?

    For the specific details on how to register a firearm, residents should contact the Firearms Registration Section of the Metropolitan Police Department at (202) 727-9490 or visit the Department's website at www.mpdc.dc.gov/gunregistration.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well maybe Smith and Wesson will have a good year selling revolvers in '09 ;)
  • davealddaveald Member Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know I'm a little slow, but just how much less lethal is a revolver vs. a semi auto.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
    At the same time, I will continue to vigorously enforce the District's other gun-related laws. I will also continue to find additional ways to protect the District's residents against the scourge of gun violence.

    In otherwords, you ain't seen nothing yet.

    The "B" word comes to mind here.
  • Gregor62Gregor62 Member Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by daveald
    I know I'm a little slow, but just how much less lethal is a revolver vs. a semi auto.


    Has nothing to do with "lethal", in the mind of the liberals. Semi's hold more ammo, and that is what they are whining about. [:(!] Damn semi-auto assault handguns![xx(][xx(]
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One must wonder if registering criminals would not be more effective in reducing the slaughter in the streets of DC.

    There is going to be harassment of citizens on a grand scale in DC. The scum heading the DC police hate having their toltal power usurped by that pesky constitution.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,285 ******
    edited November -1
    " I will also continue to find additional ways to protect the District's residents against the scourge of gun violence."

    I would say they've done a piss poor job in that regard.
  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    You guys are sure giving the Chief Gal a hard time!

    I hear she is very big in Germany.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What kind of gun did the security guard Heller own?
  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    What's the difference between Cathy Lanier and a Valentine's Day practical joke?

    One's a Cupid Stunt...
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    What's the difference between Cathy Lanier and a Valentine's Day practical joke?

    One's a Cupid Stunt...


    don't mention valentine's day...its too much of a Caponian temptation [}:)]
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    What kind of gun did the security guard Heller own?


    Very good point. That's why the DC Metro regs say Autos/semi's GENERALLY may not be registered. It fell short of implementing an outright ban on M1911 autos, etc.

    Perhaps the grandfathering/amnesty will allow semis? And after the amnesty period, registration of semis will be denied?

    One other thing..In NY, and other places, a pistol license is needed for handguns on the premesis. It's not a CCW permit. DC Metro did not address that aspect..only registration.

    What say ye? Joe
  • jesnlsnjesnlsn Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    are any of you starting to see why there is a few people who think this big "victory" at the supreme court wasn't a victory at all?

    now we are going to define a handgun that is legal as a revolving pistol only?

    nice.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    How does this IDIOT cop think she can legislate...she IS NOT a law maker.[:(!][xx(]


    When is someone going to stand up against these new restrictions and get this back before the Supreme Court again.


    I hate to say it, but several folks here told you so...the ruling was not good and will be used to our detriment.
  • crash2usafcrash2usaf Member Posts: 4,094
    edited November -1
    Now I am hoping the door is open to another challenge to come with the ban on "semi-auto's" that is still very unreasonable, besides you "may not register" them.... Fine I would keep one illegally then....

    What bothers me the most is the "keeping them in your homes only"... What about trips to the range?? Hell if you buy one how do you get it home legally?? I am really not liking DC and after this you can really see the madness that has crept into some of our larger cities...
  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where can I buy one of those fully automatic pistols?? Is it not a federal crime to deliberately ignore a Supreme Court Decision? Contempt of court at least??
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by crash2usaf
    Now I am hoping the door is open to another challenge to come with the ban on "semi-auto's" that is still very unreasonable, besides you "may not register" them.... Fine I would keep one illegally then....

    What bothers me the most is the "keeping them in your homes only"... What about trips to the range?? Hell if you buy one how do you get it home legally?? I am really not liking DC and after this you can really see the madness that has crept into some of our larger cities...


    There is already Federal Law that allows the transport from one place where they are legal (your home) to another place they are legal (the range, etc)...albeit, I'm sure some folks will have some legal fees fighting absurd charges.
  • CUEANDCUSHIONCUEANDCUSHION Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So a semi-auto 12ga shotgun is legal and a .22 auto is not?

    Yeah...I'd much rather have a 12ga shot at me. Much safer[:p]
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still say DC, Chicago, LA, and San Fran need a 10-Kt nuke each.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    Where can I buy one of those fully automatic pistols?? Is it not a federal crime to deliberately ignore a Supreme Court Decision? Contempt of court at least??


    Problem is...this falls in line with the SC's ruling...they raped our Constitution.[:(!][:(!][xx(][:(!][:(!]
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