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I need HELP from the computer geeks....

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
I currently have Satellite Internet access and it's plugged into the only ethernet port on the back of my computer. I recently had a security camera system installed and the installers hardwired a Cat V line from the DVR to my computer. This DVR is set up for remote viewing, but that is not what I'm trying to set up right now. It also comes with software that enables you to view your cameras on your computer...and this is what I'm trying to set up.

Here's my question: If I purchase a router, should I be able to plug both my internet connection and the DVR line into the router, and then run an ethernet line from the router to my ethernet connection on my computer and have access to both pieces of equipment.?.? (the DVR, and the Internet modem)??? ...and if so, do I have to set up a network connection for the DVR and computer connection (or does the router do this for me?)

As things currently stand, the computer does not "see" or recognize the DVR when I unplug the internet and plug in the DVR line to the back of my computer. Will the router help this???

The wife is at Staples trying to figure out what to buy as I type this...

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  • burdz19burdz19 Member Posts: 4,145
    edited November -1
    Sorry E, I went wireless and after reading that post I am glad I did [:D][;)]




    b
  • Dumpster BabyDumpster Baby Member Posts: 291 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Conceptually, a router is like a cable TV splitter - it takes one line and splits it out to several. Multiple computer/network devices that communicate with each other need a multi-port router so that each device is handed a unique local network address.

    Routers do the local address assignments automatically. Any other configuration that needs doing depends on operating system and specific program needs.
  • RustyBonesRustyBones Member Posts: 4,956
    edited November -1
    You should be able to buy a router and just plug the dvr into one of the extra ports with your cat 5. The dvr will obtain an ip address via the routers dhcp.

    From a random website:

    "Connect your DVR to the same router or switch that your computer is connected to. This is done with a standard cat-5 Ethernet cable"

    http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/MPEG4-DVR-Viewer-Setup-s/86.htm
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by thermonuclear
    First things first. You need a 10/100 card that will expand the number of ports you have from 1 to (your choice) 2,3,4,5.

    Second, it is a Cat5 cable...

    As for what you are doing, I do not think it will be possible to send your video camera signal over a wireless network. But I am not geek! So don't let me get you down...


    I'm not looking for a wireless network...everything is hard wired.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine are hard wired into my router as your trying to do. BUT Mine are Linksys cams that run both wired and wireless. To put it bluntly, It was a pain in the *!!!

    Forgot to add, mine needed to be hosted Via Linksys.com for security
    so I could access them from another computer.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    ECC, I know it's late and you are probably either pulling your hair out in frustration or you have it fixed. If I knew more about your hardware (specifically the DVR and camera setup) I could pull some info and help you out.

    Here is likely what happened. If they ran the wire direct from your computer to the DVR, they did not set it up to automatically obtain an IP address (the DVR that is). If you install a router, it will work (most likely) but you will have to change the settings to allow the DVR to obtain an IP address issued by the router via a DHCP server. nearly any router should do, don't go wild and spend $300. A $50 netgear without the wireless that has a DHCP server and can be configured to access your ISP will be fine.

    Once you get the DVR setup to accept the IP address from your router, you should be able to access everything over the network.

    Does your DVR offer any other direct connection like USB or Firewire?

    Feel free to email me directly if you are still having trouble with this issue tomorrow.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    ECC, I know it's late and you are probably either pulling your hair out in frustration or you have it fixed. If I knew more about your hardware (specifically the DVR and camera setup) I could pull some info and help you out.

    Here is likely what happened. If they ran the wire direct from your computer to the DVR, they did not set it up to automatically obtain an IP address (the DVR that is). If you install a router, it will work (most likely) but you will have to change the settings to allow the DVR to obtain an IP address issued by the router via a DHCP server. nearly any router should do, don't go wild and spend $300. A $50 netgear without the wireless that has a DHCP server and can be configured to access your ISP will be fine.

    Once you get the DVR setup to accept the IP address from your router, you should be able to access everything over the network.

    Does your DVR offer any other direct connection like USB or Firewire?

    Feel free to email me directly if you are still having trouble with this issue tomorrow.





    My DVR already has an IP address...how do I make it find one from the router???

    I purchased a Linksys router and plugged my Satellite and DVR into it. The Satellite works fine. The number 2 port, which is the DVR, blinks on and off. I cannot get the camera software to link up with the DVR...and yes, I'm damn near bald at this point!
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    ECC, I know it's late and you are probably either pulling your hair out in frustration or you have it fixed. If I knew more about your hardware (specifically the DVR and camera setup) I could pull some info and help you out.

    Here is likely what happened. If they ran the wire direct from your computer to the DVR, they did not set it up to automatically obtain an IP address (the DVR that is). If you install a router, it will work (most likely) but you will have to change the settings to allow the DVR to obtain an IP address issued by the router via a DHCP server. nearly any router should do, don't go wild and spend $300. A $50 netgear without the wireless that has a DHCP server and can be configured to access your ISP will be fine.

    Once you get the DVR setup to accept the IP address from your router, you should be able to access everything over the network.

    Does your DVR offer any other direct connection like USB or Firewire?

    Feel free to email me directly if you are still having trouble with this issue tomorrow.




    My DVR is a 16 channel, 250 GB HD...A-ADT1600E-250E Matrix. My cameras are Bosch VDN-495's with illuminators on the outside and Sony SDN-650PS's on the inside. The cameras are run to the DVR...and then I have a Cat 5 line from the DVR to my new Linksys router...Does any of this help???
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 31,914 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What I want to know is how much you are going to charge to come out to the store and set my stuff up when I get open.....since you will be a pro when this is done.

    (He thinks I'm kidding.....but nooooooo I'm not!)
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  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    We need to setup the DVR to get rid of the static IP addres (I am assuming that is the problem for now) and get it to accept a dynamic one issued by the router.

    I will need some more info. What brand/model DVR so I can get a user manual and see what you are looking at and what we need to do to set it up. It was working when the install guys left, correct?

    Like I said, feel free to email me directly if you don't want to put all that in here. A little late for a call, the wife would think I was on a porn line or worse [:D]


    or if you have MSN or Google chat capability we can go that route
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    We need to setup the DVR to get rid of the static IP addres (I am assuming that is the problem for now) and get it to accept a dynamic one issued by the router.

    I will need some more info. What brand/model DVR so I can get a user manual and see what you are looking at and what we need to do to set it up. It was working when the install guys left, correct?

    Like I said, feel free to email me directly if you don't want to put all that in here. A little late for a call, the wife would think I was on a porn line or worse [:D]


    or if you have MSN or Google chat capability we can go that route



    I can shoot you an email, but I posted the brand and model of the DVR unit...It has ADT's name on it. I would imagine that another company makes them for ADT Security. The manual is even from ADT.

    I sincerely appreciate your efforts...but I'm a computer idiot. There is a very basic menu at the DVR (which is located in a different part of the building)...so I have to keep running back and forth from my computer (which has the software) and the DVR/flat screen monitor to make adjustments.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    We need to setup the DVR to get rid of the static IP addres (I am assuming that is the problem for now) and get it to accept a dynamic one issued by the router.

    I will need some more info. What brand/model DVR so I can get a user manual and see what you are looking at and what we need to do to set it up. It was working when the install guys left, correct?

    Like I said, feel free to email me directly if you don't want to put all that in here. A little late for a call, the wife would think I was on a porn line or worse [:D]


    or if you have MSN or Google chat capability we can go that route




    PS...I've got a gmail account, but I have no idea of whether or not I can chat with it.[:I]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I guess I'll try to touch base with you tomorrow...Thanks BaseJumper!
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    Lemme check out this stuff I downloaded on ADT Select Vision (is that what you have for software?) and I will get right back to you.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    alright. I found some stuff on ADT DVR's, but not the specific model number you listed.

    Basically what we need to do is connect it directly to you PC again so we can access the "control Panel" of the DVR. We find the setting that allows us to change the way an IP address is obtained and we change it.

    Something interesting I did find that MAY (cross fingers) work with very little effort:

    On some direct connect CAT 5 cable to DVR they are using a crossover cable to connect it to the PC. Find a standard (straigh thru) CAT 5 cable, connect it from the DVR to the router. If the software is setup to auto detect for a DHCP server this will solve your problem. If not, we go to plan B.

    Talk to you tomorrow.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    alright. I found some stuff on ADT DVR's, but not the specific model number you listed.

    Basically what we need to do is connect it directly to you PC again so we can access the "control Panel" of the DVR. We find the setting that allows us to change the way an IP address is obtained and we change it.

    Something interesting I did find that MAY (cross fingers) work with very little effort:

    On some direct connect CAT 5 cable to DVR they are using a crossover cable to connect it to the PC. Find a standard (straigh thru) CAT 5 cable, connect it from the DVR to the router. If the software is setup to auto detect for a DHCP server this will solve your problem. If not, we go to plan B.

    Talk to you tomorrow.




    We tried a cross over cable for a direct connect to the computer yesterday...it did not work. Do you think I should try using the cross over cable into the modem?

    Is there a way to find out what address the router is assigning to the DVR port?

    The video software from ADT is called "Digital Video Remote Administration System, Installation and User's Manual".


    Thanks again.

    Right now, Port #2's light is just flashing on and off.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    BaseJumper...

    At the DVR Network Screen, it gives me 4 different ways to set up the connection...as a Network, an LAN, Modem, or DVRNS...I don't know if this helps at all.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    Choose LAN, and did yu switch out the cable they gave you? Since it's a direct connect to your PC I am betting it is a cross over cable and not a straight through that needs to connect to the router.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    They gave me a straight through cable with a short "jumper" cable that acts as a switch over cable for direct connect....but so far, neither have seemed to work. I currently have the straight through cable connected to the router.

    After I choose LAN, what do I need to do.

    The LAN menu gives me:

    Type: (Manual)...(or DHCP, ADSL)
    IP Address:
    Gateway:
    Subnet Mask:
    DNS Server:
    (with a button below this that says "Port Number Set Up..."

    Thanks!
  • tjh1948tjh1948 Member Posts: 434
    edited November -1
    I had a similar problem with a NAS (Network Attached Storage); my Vista OS computer would not see it when connected to either the router or a straight NIC. The problem was that Network Discovery was disabled. Once enabled the NAS software worked.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tjh1948
    I had a similar problem with a NAS (Network Attached Storage); my Vista OS computer would not see it when connected to either the router or a straight NIC. The problem was that Network Discovery was disabled. Once enabled the NAS software worked.


    Does Windows XP have a Network Discovery feature?
  • tjh1948tjh1948 Member Posts: 434
    edited November -1
    Cannot help because when I used XP, I had a cable connection & I did not use a router to share it. My service provider, at the time, sold additional IP addresses for $5,Month. I purchsed two (2) & used separate modems for each computer. If I remeber correctly, it is in Network Neighborhood.
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    need to use DHCP on the DVR


    All those other options you can leave alone. DHCP should assign
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    need to use DHCP on the DVR


    All those other options you can leave alone. DHCP should assign





    I used the DHCP, but the two devices are still not connecting...???
  • BaseJumperBaseJumper Member Posts: 5,570
    edited November -1
    Eric,

    Send me an email with your phone number. it'll be easier to troubleshoot that way.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BaseJumper
    Eric,

    Send me an email with your phone number. it'll be easier to troubleshoot that way.





    Will Do! thanks![:)]
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