Shotgun Recoil

sinder_83

I have a NEF single shot 12 gauge right now. I am planning on buying a Remington 870 pump-action 12 gauge. Is the recoil on the pump-action as bad as the single shot.

quickmajik

Depends on the barrel length and the powderload and weight of the shot/slug.

LOKO383

no..[8D]..good choice..my favorite gun..870..12 16,28,20,410ga..all of them..Loko [8D][:D]

Alpine

Recoil is a product of shot weight, powder charge. If your sensitive to recoil go to 1 oz loads.

If that doesn't do it for you shoot a 28 ga. 28 ga. will give you 3/4 oz of shot and have as good a range as the 12 ga.

bigbill0910

Isn't it strange how when you are shooting at something (game, clays,ect..) you don't feel the recoil. When sighting and shooting a still target, they all seam to kick.

quickmajik

yup, I guess its all about the mindset.

Alpine

quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Energy = mass x velocity squared.

The energy exerted upon the load is exactly equal to the force delivered to the weapon in an opposite direction.

Ideal weight of a shotgun goes by the classic rule of 96, I think...shotgun should ideally weigh 96 times the weight of the shot/slug for best shooting comfort and practicality.

If less, then the felt recoil will be greater as there will be less mass to have to move rearward, and so it will be done at a greater speed. If greater, then there will be less recoil as a rule, but the gun becomes to heavy to easily shoulder and track.

Then, the angle of the dangle (drop of stock) is what determines and modifies the vectored force that the mass of the gun delivers to the shoulder in a rearward, (and downward) direction, as well.

The use of some of the energy in the 870 to shuck and reload a shell will also dissipate some of the energy in felt recoil.

I have no idea about the NEF, but the above rules will help you get an idea of what may be involved.

I presume you are using the appropriate ammunition for the chamber length.








The energy of recoil is completely done and gone before you could even unlock the action. A semi-auto would be the only exception to this rule. Semis shoot a little softer than pumps, or break opens.
Whether they are gas or recoil operated.

River Rat

Stock design is also a big factor. I would expect the stock of the NEF to pretty much suck. A bit less ergonomic than a Belgian Browning auto, eh? But then that gun might not be expected to be used with full house loads.

hotshoot

quote:Originally posted by sinder_83
12 gauge. Is the recoil on the pump-action as bad as the single shot.


your 12 gauge kicks harder than my bmg[}:)][:p]

duckhunter

No

bobski

people that say 870's dont kick, most likely never owned a different one.
i agree with design being a factor.

a well designed gun WONT kick as bad.

ive sold every 870 ive ever owned.

scottm21166

think about it...there is no spring in the stock or action to absorb recoil or operate the action as the bolt stays closed untill you work the slide. So I would say, the "kick" is exactly the same with the same load. a recoil operated semi auto would have the least kick followed by a gas operated action depending on cusioning built into the stock

pickenup

Get a recoil pad on (whatever) it is.
Then a padded vest, and blast away.

soop

Or a gas operated semi auto

n/a

I have never shot a 12 gauge that I thought really kicked that hard.

The only gun that I have ever thought kicked very bad is my M-44 Mosin. And it is really only because of the steel buttplate that it will get to my shoulder (I get bruses after about 50 rounds through it).

n/a

Want to find out about recoil and if it hurts? Take an 870 to a trap range shoot 100 rds of Remington sporting clays nitros through it and then shoot a Remington 1100 with the same .

Of course you could become a whimp and use nothing but low recoil shells like some of the wussies at the range..

select-fire

quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
I have never shot a 12 gauge that I thought really kicked that hard.
The only gun that I have ever thought kicked very bad is my M-44 Mosin. And it is really only because of the steel buttplate that it will get to my shoulder (I get bruses after about 50 rounds through it).


Well when you come down here again, I will let you shoot my Winchester Defender with a 3" mag Nitro load or a deer slug. It does kick.

Alpine

quote:Originally posted by Classic095
Want to find out about recoil and if it hurts? Take an 870 to a trap range shoot 100 rds of Remington sporting clays nitros through it and then shoot a Remington 1100 with the same .

Of course you could become a whimp and use nothing but low recoil shells like some of the wussies at the range..


I'm one of those "wimps". I reload only 1 oz loads for trap anymore.

If you can't break one of those poor defenseless clay targets with 1 oz or less of shoot, you aren't a real man.

n/a

Alpine. I reload 12 gauge with 15 grains of Red Dot and 7/8 oz of 7 1/2 for Trap and the Remington 1100 gas ports bored to the next size so the action will work properly.. I reload .410 with 15 grains of 2400 MPP with 1/2 oz of 7 1/2, everything I shoot mostly is with an 1100, I have all the gauges except for 10 gauge and see no use for that on.

dakotashooter2

quote: quote:The use of some of the energy in the 870 to shuck and reload a shell will also dissipate some of the energy in felt recoil.

Sounds like somebody might have some worn parts in their 870.

n/a

"Real" men use a .410.........