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Could terrorist pull off similar attack in US

WagionWagion Member Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
What do you think could terrorist pull off an attack similar to the one in India in the US? Why or Why Not?

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  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Excuse me.
    But that has to be at the top of "the stupidest question of the month" list.

    Why?

    Think about it. 9-11 terrorist took nothing more than box cutters and brought down the World Trade centers, Hit the Pentagon and if it were not for a few that had some balls over PA. Who knows what else would have been hit.

    Two teen aged boys walked into a high school in Colorado and killed 13 students.

    And you ask. Can a group of terrorist pull a stunt in the US like they did in India?
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yes they can...and having said that I prefer to have the right to carry a concealed handgun...or in fact carry an AK or AR slung over my shoulder so that if/when it happens I will be able to at least TRY to protect my friends.

    I am sure if it does happen the government jerkoffs will exploit it to get more control on us, despite the fact that MORE gunowners could have stopped such a tragedy
  • ljwrenchljwrench Member Posts: 5,053
    edited November -1
    Really surprised it hasn't happen here yet. This may be a trial run to see how effective it is.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    KSU, yeah I agree more controls will make us all safer. Les, can't agree more. Perhaps the post by Wag was in jest. Keep your powder dry boys, this isn't over!
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..
  • ljwrenchljwrench Member Posts: 5,053
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..


    It would be easy. All they have to do is learn a little Spanish and they can blend in in any town.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..

    How hard is it to find an AK and than an automatic trigger for it? What does a case of wolf ammo cost? If they shave their beard and lose the turban they would look like every other gas station clerk.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed. Thats one advantage we have.
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed.


    exactly...like I said if I was armed and saw such poop going down I would RISK my life to protect others (I would probably never see the guy that killed me as I was busy killing his buddies)...but if I was unarmed I would not THROW MY LIFE AWAY but rather try to make a run for it...
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed. Thats one advantage we have.
    even if they were they would have been outgunned.
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..

    How hard is it to find an AK and than an automatic trigger for it? What does a case of wolf ammo cost? If they shave their beard and lose the turban they would look like every other gas station clerk.
    ..How hard is it to get this trigger?
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..

    How hard is it to find an AK and than an automatic trigger for it? What does a case of wolf ammo cost? If they shave their beard and lose the turban they would look like every other gas station clerk.
    ..How hard is it to get this trigger?


    according to an ex-military friend whose name I will not reveal, taking the weapon apart and filing down certain parts will make it full auto.
    According to him any * with knowledge of the inner workings of the gun could do it
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..

    How hard is it to find an AK and than an automatic trigger for it? What does a case of wolf ammo cost? If they shave their beard and lose the turban they would look like every other gas station clerk.
    ..How hard is it to get this trigger?

    Seen em at gun shows before. I'm not sure on the rules but I think you can own em legally as long as you don't own a gun that they fit.
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    They did it once already (9/11), and Big Brother is too interested in taking away our gun rights than "protecting us" (hahaha). Yes, they can do it (again) and they probably will.
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    quote:" Could terrorist pull off similar attack in US"

    Easily.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It will happen within 6 months of Obama taking office.... Cause Joe Biden said so.
  • Lucky_LeftyLucky_Lefty Member Posts: 7,971
    edited November -1
    I dont think they would need automatic weapons to do the same damage. with all the problems we are having with our borders they can easily get in with weapons in hand. As for them blending in thats easy they aready learned how to do that. I would think it would be 10 different cities instead of 10 spots inside one city though, it would send a big message.
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    # 1..converting an ak47 to full auto is easy if you have a drill..a tap and die set..and a metal thread screw!!

    # 2 there`s not a thing stopping people doing something like this in any country...the only advantage to innocent civilians living in the u.s. is that in a lot of places a lot of people would/could be armed!..if something like this ever does happen in the u.s. i would bet $1000 it will be where civilians can`t carry guns!..why? because they will want a free range to kill as many people as they can before they are stopped...they could`nt guarantee that in a state where people can legally carry guns.

    # 3 the best way to stop them is to make it known right around the world that when they are killed their remains will be sewn into the body of a boar pig and then they will be buried in a secret location known only to the people who order that it be done and the people who do the burying! and their identities will be protected...fear of that happening would stop these terrorists in their tracks...if they were to be inside an animal when they are buried there is no chance of them getting their virgins or sitting anywhere near allah!! i doubt it will ever happen though...that would be against their "rights"...innocent civilians who have been slaughtered don`t have any rights...nor do their families.
  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..


    How many loaded AK or AR15 clips will fit into say a 4 to 6 piece Dewalt cordless power tool case or a Job Site type truck tool box? How many long guns will fit into an AC Unit, TV, table, chair or 8 foot florescent box?

    How hard are fake work orders to make?

    Uniforms for PeOn Construction to make?

    And one more question. How many major cities in the US that have high end motels/hotels are their that doe not have maintenance crews or contractors running all over them?
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    and thats the trouble les...and if someone wants to do those crimes...anywhere...anytime, well, about the best that could be hoped for is that there are people who have a gun on them to stop them....if not [xx(]

    and i like you saying about the high end hotels ...in any country..the u.s. britain..my country..any country, they don`t have armed guards strolling around..it`s bad for buisness.

    attacks like the ones in india are like mass killings in schools or shopping malls, there isn`t much you can do to stop people planning them, all you can hope for is that they are stopped before theykill too many.....i won`t hold my breath though.[V]
  • jon ojon o Member Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by ljwrench
    Really surprised it hasn't happen here yet. This may be a trial run to see how effective it is.


    That was the first thought I had when I saw it on TV. It was a practice run![:(!][:(!]
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was thinking the same thing, it would be easy for them to to it here.
    You don't need full auto weapons, you could mount effective terror attacks with scoped deer rifles.
    Remember those two Black Muslim nitwits that terrorized the DC area for a few months? A single scoped rifle was all they had.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed. Thats one advantage we have.


    If terrorists invaded a major Vegas hotel I doubt there would be enough armed guests to make any type of positive impact.
  • AnonymouseAnonymouse Member Posts: 4,050
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..


    Do you live where everyone is white? Here in the D.C. area, and other parts of the country like Michigan, there are large populations of Middle Easterners. It would be very easy for them to blend in and buy firearms and ammo. And, there are also muslims of different ethnic backgrounds like from Indonesia, which is the largest Muslim population in the world. Plus, don't forget there are lots of black muslims in this country also.
  • TERI234TERI234 Member Posts: 366 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes the can do it again, just a matter of when.
  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:It will happen within 6 months of Obama taking office.... Cause Joe Biden said so.



    When and if it does happen the following government investigation may reveal that the terrorists obtained their weapons by legal means thus justifying the much anticipated Obama gun grab from law abiding citizens. Just as the Patriot Act was past with all haste for the sake of the Nation's safety without regard to our rights as Americans so will the new gun grab and like the Patriot Act multitudes of gun owners will support it.............anything for safety.
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    One crazy kid goes to college (gun free zone)with a 22 semi-auto + a 9mm and kills over 30 people .
    20 shooters in 20 malls at Christmas season with same weapons ?
    Who needs full auto ?

    Yeah--it could happen .
  • cactuspete1cactuspete1 Member Posts: 1,482 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In most of these attacks, no one knows it is going to happen, when it does happen I would bet either it is a sucicide attack or the perps are long gone from the scene. The Idiots that pulled the attack in Inda , some of them got trapped, but they dont care, as they want to be marters. In the chaos that follows such an attack if you dont know who the perps were who the hell are you going to shoot at?

    Just like the Oklahoma city bomber, who would someone have shot at if they had a gun?
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LesWVa

    Uniforms for PeOn Construction to make?


    That's just mean and rude[}:)]
  • richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    Heavily armed muslims with automatic guns, they will have a much harder time trying to blend and accumulate the arms and ammo. I dont know if they could do it on that scale here in the U.S..

    How hard is it to find an AK and than an automatic trigger for it? What does a case of wolf ammo cost? If they shave their beard and lose the turban they would look like every other gas station clerk.
    ..How hard is it to get this trigger?


    according to an ex-military friend whose name I will not reveal, taking the weapon apart and filing down certain parts will make it full auto.
    According to him any * with knowledge of the inner workings of the gun could do it


    Then you and your friend are an idiot. There is no file work that will make a SEMI AK into a full auto. Quit spewing garbage.


    The only thing you will accomplish by drilling and tapping holes into an AK is having an out of battery discharge, likely ruining you gun.
  • chaosrobchaosrob Member Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed. Thats one advantage we have.
    even if they were they would have been outgunned.
    the one truth that usually applies is if you miss with the first shot you will more than likely miss with the ones that follow. I will still take a well aimed round from a firearm han random spray anyday.
  • 300rumgun300rumgun Member Posts: 437 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Warpig,
    Depending on the night there is one[:D]
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been thinking of upgrading my carry weapon to something more accurate.
    A Keltec 380 is a poor choice to take a chance against an AK wielding BG at 20+ feet.
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    IF a few guys can bring 2 of the largest buildings on earth,(WTC)
    with box cutters, terrorists can do most ANYTHING ANYWHERE[:(!][:(!]
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Frankly, surprised it has not already happened here. 9-11 was not the first time (remember? That was the SECOND attack on the WTC) An attack would not have to be on a luxury hotel, and would not have to include full auto weapons. Been to the mall lately?
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    And I bet not a single victim in the attacks was armed.


    exactly...like I said if I was armed and saw such poop going down I would RISK my life to protect others (I would probably never see the guy that killed me as I was busy killing his buddies)...but if I was unarmed I would not THROW MY LIFE AWAY but rather try to make a run for it...


    I admire your moxie kid. You are willing to engage goblins that have full auto rifles with a handgun? Make sure you don't slip on your own oatmeal after you soil your undies.
  • AnonymouseAnonymouse Member Posts: 4,050
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    I've been thinking of upgrading my carry weapon to something more accurate.
    A Keltec 380 is a poor choice to take a chance against an AK wielding BG at 20+ feet.


    That is why I carry nothing smaller than a Sig 9mm, and usually a Sig 40S&W, with a PF9 in my pocket as backup. Been carrying like that since we had the DC sniper incident, you just never know when the crap will hit the fan.
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